Agreed, Klefbolm or Nurse would be a nice + but potentially too much coming back.

Phi: Petry, Perron and Klefbolm
Edm: Schenns + mid/low pick(s)

Of course if Hall is available I listen up good son.
- coffee junkie

Hall would be the one guy I'd be open to moving a "untouchable" piece. He's a beast.

Matt Read led the Flyers in even-strength goal scoring per 60 minutes last year.

Put him with Giroux and Voracek, and don't bury him with defensive zone starts and he's easily a 60-70 point scorer, imo.
- bradleyc4

Read with G and Jake hasn't worked out in the limited time they have tried it.

Matt Read led the Flyers in even-strength goal scoring per 60 minutes last year.

Put him with Giroux and Voracek, and don't bury him with defensive zone starts and he's easily a 60-70 point scorer, imo.
- bradleyc4

I don't know about that one...those guys have looked horrific before, albeit in limited sample sizes.

I think Matt Read is more of a poor man's Chris Drury than he is, say, Milan Hejduk

Matt Read led the Flyers in even-strength goal scoring per 60 minutes last year.

Put him with Giroux and Voracek, and don't bury him with defensive zone starts and he's easily a 60-70 point scorer, imo.
- bradleyc4

Agreed, but the Flyers feel Read would not produce facing top defensive competition. Not sure if that's Berube or above, but my line to start would have been 24-28-17

Trading Hagg was a bigger pause for me.

Both Perron & Eberle are mediocre( to be kind) defensive players

But the bigger cap hit, plus the additional 4 or 5 seasons that Eberle is signed for gives the Flyers less flexibility when they have to sign Voracek & Couturier in the summer of 2016.

Petry will be due a new contract as well, which means his cap hit will rise dramatically this summer.
- Jsaquella

this is a valid point i did not consider.

Eberle to 2nd line RW. Simmonds to 1st line LW.

Hall would be the one guy I'd be open to moving a "untouchable" piece. He's a beast.
- Jsaquella

Hall is fast becoming one of the most untouchable players in the league. i cant think of many that would have that label more. certainly in the single digits.

took a year or two, but him and seguin sure are looking like studs at the top of that draft

Hall would be the one guy I'd be open to moving a "untouchable" piece. He's a beast.
- Jsaquella

I really think that the Oilers won't even listen to deals for Hall.. I think if Edm goes another 20 games being this bad, you'll see a deal of Yakupov or maybe RNH if only to try a new mix.

Agreed, but the Flyers feel Read would not produce facing top defensive competition. Not sure if that's Berube or above, but my line to start would have been 24-28-17
- Jsaquella

I don't, either. That's not a slight to him, either -- lots of guys aren't effective against some of the world's best defensemen, need to work against second and third pairs

I don't, either. That's not a slight to him, either -- lots of guys aren't effective against some of the world's best defensemen, need to work against second and third pairs
- AllInForFlyers

That's fair, I'd like to see it tried for an extended period before dismissing it entirely. Berube seems like he's completely closed to it.

I really think that the Oilers won't even listen to deals for Hall.. I think if Edm goes another 20 games being this bad, you'll see a deal of Yakupov or maybe RNH if only to try a new mix.
- Hextall271

Yes, true, but for wet dream sake imagine:

Hall- G- Voracek

I really think that the Oilers won't even listen to deals for Hall.. I think if Edm goes another 20 games being this bad, you'll see a deal of Yakupov or maybe RNH if only to try a new mix.
- Hextall271

Agreed. Hall's got a complete package. He's got good hands, good wheels, size, he's not shy about the tough going. Really blossoming.

Yes, true, but for wet dream sake imagine:

Hall- G- Voracek


- coffee junkie

Dear lord.. that'd be some sort of line..

That's fair, I'd like to see it tried for an extended period before dismissing it entirely. Berube seems like he's completely closed to it.
- Jsaquella

I do understand where you are with it; Read's certainly got better hands than Raffl.

I don't know what the answer is to 1LW, if Schenn winds up not running with it

Hall is fast becoming one of the most untouchable players in the league. i cant think of many that would have that label more. certainly in the single digits.

took a year or two, but him and seguin sure are looking like studs at the top of that draft
- stayinthefnnet

Yeah, Seguin landed in Dallas and untapped his full potential. He & Benn might be the best line ate combo in the NHL...and they will get Nichushkin back soon enough

I do understand where you are with it; Read's certainly got better hands than Raffl.

I don't know what the answer is to 1LW, if Schenn winds up not running with it
- AllInForFlyers

That's the main reason I suggested Perron.

Yeah, Seguin landed in Dallas and untapped his full potential. He & Benn might be the best line ate combo in the NHL...and they will get Nichushkin back soon enough
- Jsaquella

yeah. that dallas line is absolutely scary. benn has been good for a bit now, and with the pair of them together, and nikita's potential. it is pretty hockey to watch.

except when it overtakes and wins the game in the span of a final minute against you

Agreed. Hall's got a complete package. He's got good hands, good wheels, size, he's not shy about the tough going. Really blossoming.
- Jsaquella

The Oilers situation really amazes me.. Their struggles have actually caught the attention of the media up here for a few seconds before they go back to the Leafs. Can't believe that they are not better than they are. Part of it is goaltending, and maybe D, but I think that they stuck really to picking the best players in the drafts instead of by need. I think at a certain point they should have either drafted by need or committed to make some trades to get what they needed. The way they've stuck to the same lineup for so long has baffled me. 8 Years since any playoffs is amazing to me.

Someone please quickly explain how to post pictures and videos so they are embedded. I have been posting here since 2007 (7years) and tonight is the night!

yeah. that dallas line is absolutely scary. benn has been good for a bit now, and with the pair of them together, and nikita's potential. it is pretty hockey to watch.

except when it overtakes and wins the game in the span of a final minute against you
- stayinthefnnet

I'm stunned the Flyers played as well as they did in Dallas. They were the better team for stretches. If they could eliminate the breakdowns, they win going away. The trouble is, they've been prone to those breakdowns for awhile

I'm stunned the Flyers played as well as they did in Dallas. They were the better team for stretches. If they could eliminate the breakdowns, they win going away. The trouble is, they've been prone to those breakdowns for awhile
- Jsaquella

yep.

thats been the problem with both PA teams for little while now.

on any given night, they could handily beat or get thumped by any team in the league.

i know there is parity, but they just ooze inconsistency.

I love Reader, but he's not a 60-70 point player. Eberle has been.



He had 65 points just last season.
- Feanor

That's great but who on that team has been able to take the ball and run with it? Who has been able to lead that team to the playoffs and far from the first pick in the draft overall? Talent in my opinion has never been something to question when it comes to the Oilers. It's desire to do what it takes to get the job done.

The Oilers situation really amazes me.. Their struggles have actually caught the attention of the media up here for a few seconds before they go back to the Leafs. Can't believe that they are not better than they are. Part of it is goaltending, and maybe D, but I think that they stuck really to picking the best players in the drafts instead of by need. I think at a certain point they should have either drafted by need or committed to make some trades to get what they needed. The way they've stuck to the same lineup for so long has baffled me. 8 Years since any playoffs is amazing to me.
- Hextall271

They are just so undisciplined in their own end. I watched the game against Vancouver, just to kill time. Within 5 minutes I was screaming at the TV. They were making so many simple mistakes-they overpersued and left guys open, got stymied and got to running around almost everytime the Canucks got sustained zone time and kept getting caught with guys out of position.

One that stood out to me was a play behind the net. The one D was behind the net, the other D went to the near post. The back checking forward drifted to the same post, and Scrivens had to go post to post quickly to prevent the goal.

I'm stunned the Flyers played as well as they did in Dallas. They were the better team for stretches. If they could eliminate the breakdowns, they win going away. The trouble is, they've been prone to those breakdowns for awhile
- Jsaquella

Couts and Schenn and even Read were all really good

Voracek too but I almost expect that from him

Dear lord.. that'd be some sort of line..
- Hextall271