Direct contact while wearing full hazmat suits. The risk to the public at large is probably minimal, but there is no reason not to take every possible precaution in dealing with this disease. The notion that it can't happen here is just arrogant.
- Ogilthorpe2

Weren't there some questions regarding the protocol at the Dallas hospital? That they weren't fully prepared until after the fact?

Direct contact while wearing full hazmat suits. The risk to the public at large is probably minimal, but there is no reason not to take every possible precaution in dealing with this disease. The notion that it can't happen here is just arrogant.
- Ogilthorpe2

The problem with the hasmat suits (as the Forbes article noted) is that it is difficult to take them off without coming into contact with whatever is on the outside of the suit.

I'm not suggesting a notion that it can't happen here: take every precaution where the contagion can spread - quarantine victims - just understand how the disease spreads and what the risks are.

Weren't there some questions regarding the protocol at the Dallas hospital? That they weren't fully prepared until after the fact?
- Elbows15

Yes - but I'm not sure of the details.

Yes - but I'm not sure of the details.
- StLBravesFan

Nevermind the fact that caregivers have a tremendously higher risk due to the frequency of contact.

Direct contact while wearing full hazmat suits. The risk to the public at large is probably minimal, but there is no reason not to take every possible precaution in dealing with this disease. The notion that it can't happen here is just arrogant.
- Ogilthorpe2

If you had a daughter/son would you put her/him in the net with no equipment in the last minute of a game with a flurry of shots coming their way? Puck might hit a post, a skate or might plug the kid in the head. Wisdom says you dont put em in that position and the pro that you do put out there has all the protection money can buy (Still Corey took a shot high and is out/medical pros have got sick or worse) S#!T happens. Lets hope for a win

Kind of funny story. I suggested that Toews was overrated after several libations the other night. 2 minutes later = goal.

That being said, I think he has kind of plateaued. Not that that is a bad thing, the top or close to it is still the top or close to it, but I think getting him off some defensive responsibilities and playing with Kane again could really open up his game. And minimizing some of those hard minutes is really not a terrible idea. Same for Hossa. Wayyyyyy to many minutes for a 37 year old. I don't care how fit he is, 37 is still 37 and that doesn't recover the same.

Also on a side note, I think some of the "doesn't fit into Q's style" is a stupid statement. In fact I think all of it is. The best coaches put their players... good and not as good... in the best position to succeed. I don't think he is capable of doing that. He rode the crap out of his stars in STL, in a very competitive Western Conference and couldn't get over the hump. With how good the Conference is, I don't think that is a sustainable way to manage a team.

2 Cups is great. But also 2 Cups with the clear cut most talented team in the league top to bottom. The gap is narrowing in some ways. And how many 20 minute games can Hossa's legs take and how many 24 minute games do you want Kane skating and Keith near 28-30.

If its a long fall for those guys it could be a short spring.

One more thing, re Richards, see statement above about putting guys in a spot to succeed. I think the old guys should be playing on the same line against the worst competition, racking up points and playing 16 minutes a night to be fresh for the post season.

Kind of funny story. I suggested that Toews was overrated after several libations the other night. 2 minutes later = goal.

That being said, I think he has kind of plateaued. Not that that is a bad thing, the top or close to it is still the top or close to it, but I think getting him off some defensive responsibilities and playing with Kane again could really open up his game. And minimizing some of those hard minutes is really not a terrible idea. Same for Hossa. Wayyyyyy to many minutes for a 37 year old. I don't care how fit he is, 37 is still 37 and that doesn't recover the same.

Also on a side note, I think some of the "doesn't fit into Q's style" is a stupid statement. In fact I think all of it is. The best coaches put their players... good and not as good... in the best position to succeed. I don't think he is capable of doing that. He rode the crap out of his stars in STL, in a very competitive Western Conference and couldn't get over the hump. With how good the Conference is, I don't think that is a sustainable way to manage a team.

2 Cups is great. But also 2 Cups with the clear cut most talented team in the league top to bottom. The gap is narrowing in some ways. And how many 20 minute games can Hossa's legs take and how many 24 minute games do you want Kane skating and Keith near 28-30.

If its a long fall for those guys it could be a short spring.

One more thing, re Richards, see statement above about putting guys in a spot to succeed. I think the old guys should be playing on the same line against the worst competition, racking up points and playing 16 minutes a night to be fresh for the post season.
- fattybeef

OK FB, first have a few tonight, the Hawks need your support and carma.
I like the way Towes and Kane are kept apart. There are few teams with enough shut down defenseive lines & d pairings to keep both covered. Of course Q, when necessary puts them together causing serious problems for the opposition. I also do believe the old line will be seen sometime the next couple weeks, Q blender almost guarantees it.

The problem with the hasmat suits (as the Forbes article noted) is that it is difficult to take them off without coming into contact with whatever is on the outside of the suit.

I'm not suggesting a notion that it can't happen here: take every precaution where the contagion can spread - quarantine victims - just understand how the disease spreads and what the risks are.
- StLBravesFan

Not suggesting you were, but many "experts" were/are.

Kind of funny story. I suggested that Toews was overrated after several libations the other night. 2 minutes later = goal.

That being said, I think he has kind of plateaued. Not that that is a bad thing, the top or close to it is still the top or close to it, but I think getting him off some defensive responsibilities and playing with Kane again could really open up his game. And minimizing some of those hard minutes is really not a terrible idea. Same for Hossa. Wayyyyyy to many minutes for a 37 year old. I don't care how fit he is, 37 is still 37 and that doesn't recover the same.

Also on a side note, I think some of the "doesn't fit into Q's style" is a stupid statement. In fact I think all of it is. The best coaches put their players... good and not as good... in the best position to succeed. I don't think he is capable of doing that. He rode the crap out of his stars in STL, in a very competitive Western Conference and couldn't get over the hump. With how good the Conference is, I don't think that is a sustainable way to manage a team.

2 Cups is great. But also 2 Cups with the clear cut most talented team in the league top to bottom. The gap is narrowing in some ways. And how many 20 minute games can Hossa's legs take and how many 24 minute games do you want Kane skating and Keith near 28-30.

If its a long fall for those guys it could be a short spring.

One more thing, re Richards, see statement above about putting guys in a spot to succeed. I think the old guys should be playing on the same line against the worst competition, racking up points and playing 16 minutes a night to be fresh for the post season.
- fattybeef

He's 35.

As a point of discussion, I heard on NHL radio this morning where the 3 on 3 in OT is producing some pretty exciting extra time hockey and more importantly replacing the shootout, I think they said there has only been 1. What do you guys think about Toews, Kaner and Keith out their with all the extra ice? Could be some awesome hockey

Kind of funny story. I suggested that Toews was overrated after several libations the other night. 2 minutes later = goal.

That being said, I think he has kind of plateaued. Not that that is a bad thing, the top or close to it is still the top or close to it, but I think getting him off some defensive responsibilities and playing with Kane again could really open up his game. And minimizing some of those hard minutes is really not a terrible idea. Same for Hossa. Wayyyyyy to many minutes for a 37 year old. I don't care how fit he is, 37 is still 37 and that doesn't recover the same.

Also on a side note, I think some of the "doesn't fit into Q's style" is a stupid statement. In fact I think all of it is. The best coaches put their players... good and not as good... in the best position to succeed. I don't think he is capable of doing that. He rode the crap out of his stars in STL, in a very competitive Western Conference and couldn't get over the hump. With how good the Conference is, I don't think that is a sustainable way to manage a team.

2 Cups is great. But also 2 Cups with the clear cut most talented team in the league top to bottom. The gap is narrowing in some ways. And how many 20 minute games can Hossa's legs take and how many 24 minute games do you want Kane skating and Keith near 28-30.

If its a long fall for those guys it could be a short spring.

One more thing, re Richards, see statement above about putting guys in a spot to succeed. I think the old guys should be playing on the same line against the worst competition, racking up points and playing 16 minutes a night to be fresh for the post season.
- fattybeef

Minutes: Hawks have had an extra-ordinary number of special teams opportunities - 21 PPs and 15 PKs - when those get back to a normal number, the minutes per game for the skaters who play heavy special teams minutes will go down - especially Keith (currently, 7:46 per game on ST), Seabrook (6:15), Toews (7:08), Hossa (5:14), and Kane (5:22).

Also, three of the four games went to OT - certainly, the same five play substantial OT minutes - when that gets back to normal (about 1 every four games), the ATOI will go down.

Clear cut most talented team in the league during the Cup years: I'm not sure you can say that about any team in the cap era, and even if true, many coaches screw up the talent base; it does take a good coach to manage all that talent to 2 Championships and four Final-4s in six years championship - a Jackson, a Stengal, a Babcock, a Quenville.

The virus and its symptoms, along with the outbreak itself is not funny.

Connecting it to a hockey injury just for kicks is actually kind of funny.
- EKolb13

As a point of discussion, I heard on NHL radio this morning where the 3 on 3 in OT is producing some pretty exciting extra time hockey and more importantly replacing the shootout, I think they said there has only been 1. What do you guys think about Toews, Kaner and Keith out their with all the extra ice? Could be some awesome hockey
- Cup-Bearer

Meh.

3-3 is almost as gimmicky as the shootout IMO. At least 4-4 occurs within the normal course of actual games.

He's 35.
- teh_HAWKZ

Oops. Same question.

Minutes: Hawks have had an extra-ordinary number of special teams opportunities - 21 PPs and 15 PKs - when those get back to a normal number, the minutes per game for the skaters who play heavy special teams minutes will go down - especially Keith (currently, 7:46 per game on ST), Seabrook (6:15), Toews (7:08), Hossa (5:14), and Kane (5:22).

Also, three of the four games went to OT - certainly, the same five play substantial OT minutes - when that gets back to normal (about 1 every four games), the ATOI will go down.

Clear cut most talented team in the league during the Cup years: I'm not sure you can say that about any team in the cap era, and even if true, many coaches screw up the talent base; it does take a good coach to manage all that talent to 2 Championships and four Final-4s in six years championship - a Jackson, a Stengal, a Babcock, a Quenville.
- StLBravesFan

A Darryl...

The two Dallas nurses had to have come into DIRECT CONTACT with the bodily fluids (blood, vomit) of a contagious ebola patient to have contracted the disease.

DIRECT CONTACT.

It is NOT spread thru the air like flu.
- StLBravesFan

Guys, I am late to the party on this topic, but you are correct.

My wife has spent her entire career at Texas Health Presbyterian Dallas. She manages one of the other units, but has a lot of knowledge about what went on, and when.

I could give you all several bullet points, but I don't want to hijack the thread. If anyone wants to ask any specific questions, you can PM me and I'll try to answer.

What I will say is that the hospital was following CDC guidelines at all times; they were in constant communication with the CDC, who had personnel on site once the index patient was diagnosed. The media has reported a lot of information, a lot of it was inaccurate.

If you are interested in the topic, here's a great interview with Dr. Gary Weinstein, who treated all three ebola patients. You should be watching this instead of listening to Anderson Cooper, et al:

http://www.wfaa.com/story...-ebola-response/17483917/

A Darryl...
- fattybeef

A Sutter, a king to be dethroned

Minutes: Hawks have had an extra-ordinary number of special teams opportunities - 21 PPs and 15 PKs - when those get back to a normal number, the minutes per game for the skaters who play heavy special teams minutes will go down - especially Keith (currently, 7:46 per game on ST), Seabrook (6:15), Toews (7:08), Hossa (5:14), and Kane (5:22).

Also, three of the four games went to OT - certainly, the same five play substantial OT minutes - when that gets back to normal (about 1 every four games), the ATOI will go down.

Clear cut most talented team in the league during the Cup years: I'm not sure you can say that about any team in the cap era, and even if true, many coaches screw up the talent base; it does take a good coach to manage all that talent to 2 Championships and four Final-4s in six years championship - a Jackson, a Stengal, a Babcock, a Quenville.
- StLBravesFan

Phil Jackson also did what was necessary to get his best players to be the best AND make guys like Ron Harper, Steve Kerr, Bill Wennington, BJ Armstrong... Ect... Reliable contributors.

With the exception of the 2010 team especially and to an extent the 2013 team (yay short season so no one was burnt out except Hossa), in all his coaching resume, I don't think you see the same from Q.

Its the same system, with the same cute match up crap, mostly skating their most dynamic player with poop until desperation kicks in, with the same garbage powerplay day in and day out.

This season could have easily started 1-3 if not for excellent goaltending which is a weird statement to make about the most recent iteration of the hawks.

I hear Crow hurt his arm bowling

I also hear his game is pretty good, ebola a strike every time

Phil Jackson also did what was necessary to get his best players to be the best AND make guys like Ron Harper, Steve Kerr, Bill Wennington, BJ Armstrong... Ect... Reliable contributors.

With the exception of the 2010 team especially and to an extent the 2013 team (yay short season so no one was burnt out except Hossa), in all his coaching resume, I don't think you see the same from Q.

Its the same system, with the same cute match up crap, mostly skating their most dynamic player with poop until desperation kicks in, with the same garbage powerplay day in and day out.

This season could have easily started 1-3 if not for excellent goaltending which is a weird statement to make about the most recent iteration of the hawks.
- fattybeef

Not sure how a team can win two Cups and make two other Final-4s in 6 years in the cap era without having good players - AND A GOOD COACH.

This is not a Tortorella, who shot his wad in one year at TB, or Byelsma, who did the same in one year in Pittsburgh - this is 12 play-off series wins in six years.

I hear Crow hurt his arm bowling

I also hear his game is pretty good, ebola a strike every time
- waitforawhistle

Not sure how a team can win two Cups and make two other Final-4s in 6 years in the cap era without having good players - AND A GOOD COACH.

This is not a Tortorella, who shot his wad in one year at TB, or Byelsma, who did the same in one year in Pittsburgh - this is 12 play-off series wins in six years.
- StLBravesFan

I hear Crow hurt his arm bowling

I also hear his game is pretty good, ebola a strike every time
- waitforawhistle

Phil Jackson also did what was necessary to get his best players to be the best AND make guys like Ron Harper, Steve Kerr, Bill Wennington, BJ Armstrong... Ect... Reliable contributors.

With the exception of the 2010 team especially and to an extent the 2013 team (yay short season so no one was burnt out except Hossa), in all his coaching resume, I don't think you see the same from Q.

Its the same system, with the same cute match up crap, mostly skating their most dynamic player with poop until desperation kicks in, with the same garbage powerplay day in and day out.

This season could have easily started 1-3 if not for excellent goaltending which is a weird statement to make about the most recent iteration of the hawks.
- fattybeef

Or it could even more easily have started 4-0-0 with a better goal differential if some of our guys could just hit the back of the net. Depends on which way you wanna look at it.

I hear Crow hurt his arm bowling

I also hear his game is pretty good, ebola a strike every time
- waitforawhistle