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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 3:24 PM ET
I think Berube would rather not have any of them. But just waiting for the prospects to come up
- J35Bacher


Well, sure. He'd rather have LA's roster or Chicago's. Who wouldn't? If I'm just waiting for the prospects to come up, I'm playing the kids on my roster, who I'm not sure about, to see what I have there. I'm playing them game in and out and playing them regular minutes to be as sure as I can be what I have there.

bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 21 @ 3:24 PM ET
Except maybe Matt Read isn't good at the left wing and prefers the right.
- KGBflyers10


Matt Read was fine at LW last season.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 3:25 PM ET
Berube cast Akeson, a player with offensive skills, in a defensive/forechecking role. Big surprise that he didn't "play well."

It's like asking a cat to bark, and getting mad at the cat for not being able to do it.

The root of the issues with Berube, that I've seen, stem from his inability to get the most out of this roster. We all know he hasn't been dealt a great hand. But many feel like he could do more.

Things like:

- Overplaying/overvaluing Andrew MacDonald
- Under-utilizing Jake Voracek at even-strength
- Overplaying/overvaluing R.J. Umberger
- Overplaying/overvaluing Vinny Lecavalier
- How he handles the goaltending starting assignments
- Not giving Brayden Schenn more of an opportunity at 1LW
- Not giving Matt Read a chance at 1LW
- Not putting Jason Akeson in more of an offensive role
- Not developing Sean Couturier's offensive game

So you may disagree with each of these points, but that doesn't change my opinion on how I would handle the team.

- bradleyc4

But Umberger is faster and more disciplined. Why isn't this working out?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 21 @ 3:25 PM ET
C'mon fellas... we're on a pts streak here. Let's just get along okay?
- mayorofangrytown


STFU!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 21 @ 3:25 PM ET
honestly, I don't think a cat would care if you were mad at it, even if your request was unreasonable.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 3:26 PM ET
Well, sure. He'd rather have LA's roster or Chicago's. Who wouldn't? If I'm just waiting for the prospects to come up, I'm playing the kids on my roster, who I'm not sure about, to see what I have there. I'm playing them game in and out and playing them regular minutes to be as sure as I can be what I have there.
- Jsaquella

You're talking like the season is over.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 21 @ 3:28 PM ET
But Umberger is faster and more disciplined. Why isn't this working out?
- mayorofangrytown


I mean, he's an improvement over Rosehill. That's a positive remark, no?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 21 @ 3:28 PM ET
honestly, I don't think a cat would care if you were mad at it, even if your request was unreasonable.
- BulliesPhan87




I should stick with analogies of things I'm more familiar with. #dogperson
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 21 @ 3:29 PM ET
Well, sure. He'd rather have LA's roster or Chicago's. Who wouldn't? If I'm just waiting for the prospects to come up, I'm playing the kids on my roster, who I'm not sure about, to see what I have there. I'm playing them game in and out and playing them regular minutes to be as sure as I can be what I have there.
- Jsaquella



In Akeson's case how much more do they need to see? They see him at practice. He spent 4 years in the organiztion minors. What secret skillset will come out that they are hoping to find?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 3:29 PM ET
STFU!
- PhillySportsGuy

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 21 @ 3:29 PM ET
But Umberger is faster and more disciplined. Why isn't this working out?
- mayorofangrytown


Is Umberger really even faster than Hartnell?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 21 @ 3:30 PM ET
In Akeson's case how much more do they need to see? They see him at practice. He spent 4 years in the organiztion minors. What secret skillset will come out that they are hoping to find?
- J35Bacher

that he sucks at the NHL level
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 21 @ 3:30 PM ET

- mayorofangrytown


mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 3:30 PM ET
In Akeson's case how much more do they need to see? They see him at practice. He spent 4 years in the organiztion minors. What secret skillset will come out that they are hoping to find?
- J35Bacher

Swiss Army Knife finger tips!!!
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Oct 21 @ 3:31 PM ET
Is Umberger really even faster than Hartnell?
- PhillySportsGuy


Is this a serious question?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 21 @ 3:31 PM ET
Is this a serious question?
- KGBflyers10


Is it?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 3:31 PM ET
Is Umberger really even faster than Hartnell?
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm pretty sure he can't beat him to the penalty box.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 3:32 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy


2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 21 @ 3:33 PM ET
Is this a serious question?
- KGBflyers10

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 3:35 PM ET
In Akeson's case how much more do they need to see? They see him at practice. He spent 4 years in the organiztion minors. What secret skillset will come out that they are hoping to find?
- J35Bacher


Akeson has played 13 NHL games. For at least 7 of those 13, in the playoffs, he was one of their most effective skaters. That should be enough to want to see more, to see how sustainable that level of play is
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 21 @ 3:36 PM ET
Well, VL will be back soon to help take some of the defensive burden. Can't see how he won't help Couts.
- PhillySportsGuy


hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Oct 21 @ 3:37 PM ET
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 21 @ 3:38 PM ET
Akeson has played 13 NHL games. For at least 7 of those 13, in the playoffs, he was one of their most effective skaters. That should be enough to want to see more, to see how sustainable that level of play is
- Jsaquella



pfff another arm chair coach telling this guy what to do
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 21 @ 3:38 PM ET
Akeson has played 13 NHL games. For at least 7 of those 13, in the playoffs, he was one of their most effective skaters. That should be enough to want to see more, to see how sustainable that level of play is
- Jsaquella


Whereas Chris Vande Velde has played almost 50 career NHL games and has been irrelevant in almost all of them.



Bench Akeson for Laughton, or Leier, or Cousins.... fine. But for VDV? Yuck.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 21 @ 3:39 PM ET
Blackhawks 4 flyers 1 final score patty Kane 2 goals and towes 2 goals
- Palmer117

Do you prefer Brad Pitt's hair in World War Z, or Fury?
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