I am very happy to see that my 2nd favorite hockey team is up 2-1 at the end of the first period.

I am very happy to see that my 2nd favorite hockey team is up 2-1 at the end of the first period.
- Doc_Sarcasm

The Islanders?

The Islanders?
- PhillySportsGuy

Yes, tonight the Islanders are my 2nd favorite hockey team

Yes, tonight the Islanders are my 2nd favorite hockey team
- Doc_Sarcasm

JVR on the board

Anyone who knows me and has talked to me on here for years knows that I love bringing back former Flyers. Rick Tocchet, Mark Recchi, Simon Gagne, Brian Boucher, Mike Knuble, Ray Emery (Who I love) and yes, even Steve Downie. I still feel like we won in the Talbot/Downie trade because I feel we got the better and younger player. However, two former Flyers who we recently re-acquired that I wasn't thrilled of their return were Ruslan Fedotenko and RJ Umberger.

If I can be brutally honest, veteran 2 way players who are able to see free agency or are unwanted by their former team(s) are normally more known as defensive forwards. They've simply lost that offensive touch. The moment we signed Ruslan Fedotenko and Bruno Gervais, while letting Jagr walk and trading JvR for Luke Schenn, the shorten season to me was a write off. In my opinion, the Flyers are only as good as their offseason. Trading for Kyle Calder and signing both Geoff Sanderson and Randy Robitaille is an example of another bad off season.

To me trading Scott Hartnell (a first line player) for RJ Umberger (a third liner) isn't the best of hominids. I understand the mindset but I don't feel these two players are of equal value. I will admit that this team isn't nearly as bad as the 2006-2007 team or the 2012-2013 but trading away a productive forward 4 million forward for a less then productive 4 million player just because one has less years then the other isn't a great trade.

With this said, I'm more concerned with moving forward with youth. Trading Luke and/or Brayden Schenn isn't a thought in my mind right now. I'd rather be rid of the Lecavalier and Umberger contracts first.

JVR on the board
- PhillySportsGuy

JvR can score 60 goals this year and it won't get the stinkin' Leafs into the playoffs.

JvR can score 60 goals this year and it won't get the stinkin' Leafs into the playoffs.
- Doc_Sarcasm

Sure but the Schenn for JvR trade will always be a bad one. We'd be a much better team with JvR. We under estimated what we had in him. I think JvR could absolutely score 40 at least once in his career.

Love me some fresh crisp red grapes

Also Fuji apples. Those are the poop.
- Giroux_Is_God

There you go

My sandwich was tremendous, too

Oh, yeah: Flyers win tonight, 4-3. Don't know how they do it, but they get it done

Anyone who knows me and has talked to me on here for years knows that I love bringing back former Flyers. Rick Tocchet, Mark Recchi, Simon Gagne, Brian Boucher, Mike Knuble, Ray Emery (Who I love) and yes, even Steve Downie. I still feel like we won in the Talbot/Downie trade because I feel we got the better and younger player. However, two former Flyers who we recently re-acquired that I wasn't thrilled of their return were Ruslan Fedotenko and RJ Umberger.

If I can be brutally honest, veteran 2 way players who are able to see free agency or are unwanted by their former team(s) are normally more known as defensive forwards. They've simply lost that offensive touch. The moment we signed Ruslan Fedotenko and Bruno Gervais, while letting Jagr walk and trading JvR for Luke Schenn, the shorten season to me was a write off. In my opinion, the Flyers are only as good as their offseason. Trading for Kyle Calder and signing both Geoff Sanderson and Randy Robitaille is an example of another bad off season.

To me trading Scott Hartnell (a first line player) for RJ Umberger (a third liner) isn't the best of hominids. I understand the mindset but I don't feel these two players are of equal value. I will admit that this team isn't nearly as bad as the 2006-2007 team or the 2012-2013 but trading away a productive forward 4 million forward for a less then productive 4 million player just because one has less years then the other isn't a great trade.

With this said, I'm more concerned with moving forward with youth. Trading Luke and/or Brayden Schenn isn't a thought in my mind right now. I'd rather be rid of the Lecavalier and Umberger contracts first.
- SuperSchennBros

Flyers Fans in DC (@flyersfansindc) tweeted:
Hartnell trade analysis so far - Flyers G/GP so far? 3.4...last year? 2.84; Flyers PIM/GP so far? 7...last year? 14.4. Scoring up, PIMs down

Flyers Fans in DC (@flyersfansindc) tweeted:
Hartnell trade analysis so far - Flyers G/GP so far? 3.4...last year? 2.84; Flyers PIM/GP so far? 7...last year? 14.4. Scoring up, PIMs down
- moylander

Still a fairly small sample size, but I'm thrilled that they are taking fewer penalties. It wasn't all Hartnell, but some of it was

Sure but the Schenn for JvR trade will always be a bad one. We'd be a much better team with JvR. We under estimated what we had in him. I think JvR could absolutely score 40 at least once in his career.
- SuperSchennBros

No, we'd still have a substandard defensive corps and we'd have one more forward who is shaky in his own zone, albeit one who can put the puck in the net

JVR on the board
- PhillySportsGuy

He's good for 30; I can admit it. Still not sure about his heart, but yeah, he's probably good for 30

Laughton is the best player not playing in the NHL right now.
- wilsonecho91

oh poop

No, we'd still have a substandard defensive corps and we'd have one more forward who is shaky in his own zone, albeit one who can put the puck in the net
- Doc_Sarcasm

The problem with this team right now isn't goal scoring. It's inconsistent play, and defensive coverage.

The problem with this team right now isn't goal scoring. It's inconsistent play, and defensive coverage.
- MJL

you left out goaltending

everyone knows that is their problem

come on you're better then this

Hunter Pence

Still a fairly small sample size, but I'm thrilled that they are taking fewer penalties. It wasn't all Hartnell, but some of it was
- AllInForFlyers

Seems to me that the offside calls against the Flyers are almost nonexistent so far this year, too. Hartnell was always good for a few of those a week.

Hunter Pence


- BiggE

you left out goaltending

everyone knows that is their problem

come on you're better then this
- Marc D

I'm off my game tonight.

Hunter Pence


- BiggE

Well they could have went with Mike Arbuckle (who was running the Phillies drafts when he was here) as GM over Ruin Tomorrow Jr

That's the bigger screw up.

Seems to me that the offside calls against the Flyers are almost nonexistent so far this year, too. Hartnell was always good for a few of those a week.
- tangent_man

Little things like that mean a lot. The league is so close anymore. Anything you can do to help not beat yourself is a good thing

Well they could have went with Mike Arbuckle (who was running the Phillies drafts when he was here) as GM over Ruin Tomorrow Jr

That's the bigger screw up.
- ob18

Apparently Coburn re-injured during warmups. Out

No Coburn?

poop

Apparently Coburn re-injured during warmups. Out
- PLindbergh31

Sigh