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GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:12 PM ET
Murray has though.

After the draft he said he wouldn't have moved him for the 10th pick let alone the 24th pick, when it was rumored Vancouver offered that pick to the Sabres for Myers.

Unless it's for a great prospect like Mantha + I don't see anyway he's moved.

We have too many good prospects to begin with. We need bonafide top 6 talent

- sbroads24


He should have hung up on Vancouver when they offered the 24th pick but he said he wouldn't take the 10th pick and now, supposedly, he wants Dylan Larkin the 15th pick and who knows what else but he will be the main part of the package coming back to the Sabres I would think if they make that deal.

I just think when there is smoke there is fire especially when Bob MacKenzie and Darren Dregger are reporting rumors/inside info weekly and extensively, not Ek or TFP, but those insiders and his name has been out there since at least the summer.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 21 @ 11:16 PM ET
I don't look to advanced stats to tell whether a player is good or not, but it's clear he is far and away the best on this team right now. His numbers despite this team are pretty good
- sbroads24


Yup. Im sure he would look a lot better on a better team too.
gerbe42
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.10.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:20 PM ET
Brendan Smith + Mantha is tempting.

Without Myers, we have no proven top 4 defensemen.

Risto and McCabe look good so far, but they aren't sure things today

- sbroads24

Trouble is i dont see them parting with mantha and judging by the article, were going in a different direction now. I guess i just want to see goals scored and im a little desperate to see some offensive talent come our way. I like the way myers plays but you have to admit we have many almost nhl-nhl ready prospects compared to offense. Risto, Zad, Pysyk, McCabe, ruhwedel and gorges to teach. Thats a good squad if you sacrifice one guy to bring in a few offensive guys.

I would be perfectly fine with keeping him of course.
gerbe42
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.10.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:22 PM ET
I don't look to advanced stats to tell whether a player is good or not, but it's clear he is far and away the best on this team right now. His numbers despite this team are pretty good
- sbroads24

theres definitely no arguing with that
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 21 @ 11:27 PM ET
Trouble is i dont see them parting with mantha and judging by the article, were going in a different direction now. I guess i just want to see goals scored and im a little desperate to see some offensive talent come our way. I like the way myers plays but you have to admit we have many almost nhl-nhl ready prospects compared to offense. Risto, Zad, Pysyk, McCabe, ruhwedel and gorges to teach. Thats a good squad if you sacrifice one guy to bring in a few offensive guys.

I would be perfectly fine with keeping him of course.

- gerbe42


Good contract for the minutes he plays though. No guarantee any of those prospects could fill his skates at close to 30 minutes per game. I forsee some of those kids taking the place of weber, mezaros, beniot, etc...
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:27 PM ET
Trouble is i dont see them parting with mantha and judging by the article, were going in a different direction now. I guess i just want to see goals scored and im a little desperate to see some offensive talent come our way. I like the way myers plays but you have to admit we have many almost nhl-nhl ready prospects compared to offense. Risto, Zad, Pysyk, McCabe, ruhwedel and gorges to teach. Thats a good squad if you sacrifice one guy to bring in a few offensive guys.

I would be perfectly fine with keeping him of course.

- gerbe42


I think by all reports there is no chance the Sabres get Mantha for Myers unless the two teams work out a bigger deal with more pieces in play.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 21 @ 11:28 PM ET
He should have hung up on Vancouver when they offered the 24th pick but he said he wouldn't take the 10th pick and now, supposedly, he wants Dylan Larkin the 15th pick and who knows what else but he will be the main part of the package coming back to the Sabres I would think if they make that deal.

I just think when there is smoke there is fire especially when Bob MacKenzie and Darren Dregger are reporting rumors/inside info weekly and extensively, not Ek or TFP, but those insiders and his name has been out there since at least the summer.

- GilPerreault11

I don't doubt teams are talking to us. However I doubt Murray is the one pursuing.

It wouldn't make sense for Murray to rush to trade for a prospect like Larkin who is 2 year away from playing in the league at minimum.

IMO Myers will be here for a while. If Ristolainen starts to show he's a true #1, and McCabe and Zadarov look like top 4 guys then I can see him moved
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 21 @ 11:30 PM ET
I think by all reports there is no chance the Sabres get Mantha for Myers unless the two teams work out a bigger deal with more pieces in play.
- GilPerreault11

I don't see anyway Detroit gets Myers without Mantha or Nyquist being involved.

If Myers were truly available, 10 teams would be lining up to trade a top prospect for him. He's an immediate upgrade on any teams top 4 and he's young

He will get a haul if moved IMO
gerbe42
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.10.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:34 PM ET
Good contract for the minutes he plays though. No guarantee any of those prospects could fill his skates at close to 30 minutes per game. I forsee some of those kids taking the place of weber, mezaros, beniot, etc...
- seedy

good point. maybe risto down the line but not right now, and thats a maybe. man, we need someone to score so badly
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 21 @ 11:35 PM ET
good point. maybe risto down the line but not right now, and thats a maybe. man, we need someone to score so badly
- gerbe42

Risto/McCabe have the making of a great pairing. But outside that..... We have the Zadarov situation, and Pysyk won't be anything more than a solid #4
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 21 @ 11:37 PM ET
good point. maybe risto down the line but not right now, and thats a maybe. man, we need someone to score so badly
- gerbe42


Yeah. It would be nice if some of the guys already on the team would do it.
I know its only been 5 games, but i'd like to see a little more out if Moulson, Stafford, Gionta and Stewart.
gerbe42
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.10.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:37 PM ET
I think by all reports there is no chance the Sabres get Mantha for Myers unless the two teams work out a bigger deal with more pieces in play.
- GilPerreault11

Yes i could see that, i dont think it would be a blockbuster or anything though. A few picks and a prospect added each way
gerbe42
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.10.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:40 PM ET
Risto/McCabe have the making of a great pairing. But outside that..... We have the Zadarov situation, and Pysyk won't be anything more than a solid #4
- sbroads24

now that i think deeper into it and you bring some of this up might be better to hold off but that doesnt mean im going to be mad if that trade does take place. i do love that he is eating up so many minutes and hes been our teams best player
gerbe42
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.10.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:41 PM ET
Yeah. It would be nice if some of the guys already on the team would do it.
I know its only been 5 games, but i'd like to see a little more out if Moulson, Stafford, Gionta and Stewart.

- seedy

they need to step it up, i expected more out of moulson especially. He and stafford have been almost invisible out there
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:44 PM ET
I don't doubt teams are talking to us. However I doubt Murray is the one pursuing.

It wouldn't make sense for Murray to rush to trade for a prospect like Larkin who is 2 year away from playing in the league at minimum.

IMO Myers will be here for a while. If Ristolainen starts to show he's a true #1, and McCabe and Zadarov look like top 4 guys then I can see him moved

- sbroads24


There have been reports that Detroit, Anaheim, Colorado, Philly have interest in Myers. Vancouver, as you stated, made an offer at the draft. There have been reports that TM has quietly put Myers name on the trade market. Those teams don't make offers unless TM lets them know he is open to offers. I don't think TM is just sitting back taking calls, I think he initially started the process of putting him on the market and letting teams know he was available for the right price. I don't think he'll rush it but weren't there Myers rumors at the deadline last year? TM has already taken his time may take until the deadline maybe the draft but I bet he doesn't start the season with McEeichel next year.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 21 @ 11:45 PM ET
now that i think deeper into it and you bring some of this up might be better to hold off but that doesnt mean im going to be mad if that trade does take place. i do love that he is eating up so many minutes and hes been our teams best player
- gerbe42

That's pretty much my opinion. He's signed for 4 more years.

They should wait to see just how good the others guys become, or even how good Myers can be. He isn't exactly on the greatest team to showcase what he's good at
gerbe42
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.10.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:48 PM ET
That's pretty much my opinion. He's signed for 4 more years.

They should wait to see just how good the others guys become, or even how good Myers can be. He isn't exactly on the greatest team to showcase what he's good at

- sbroads24

The thing that sucks is his ntc is up after this year, the contract unfortunately puts tm in a bind and i think thats why its sparked all these rumors
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Oct 21 @ 11:50 PM ET
The thing that sucks is his ntc is up after this year, the contract unfortunately puts tm in a bind and i think thats why its sparked all these rumors
- gerbe42


Are you talking about myers? Cuz his doesn't kick in until after next season
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:52 PM ET
That's pretty much my opinion. He's signed for 4 more years.

They should wait to see just how good the others guys become, or even how good Myers can be. He isn't exactly on the greatest team to showcase what he's good at

- sbroads24


He has that NTC that kicks in in 2016 me thinks so then the sabres have less of a market to deal him because he holds the cards
gerbe42
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.10.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:56 PM ET
Are you talking about myers? Cuz his doesn't kick in until after next season
- stashu

ahh, my mistake i thought it was 14-15. well that makes me feel much better
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 22 @ 12:09 AM ET
The thing that sucks is his ntc is up after this year, the contract unfortunately puts tm in a bind and i think thats why its sparked all these rumors
- gerbe42


I had speculated on the NTC Earlier today. It may be one thing that TM may not like due to it handcuffing him. But if his play bounces back, as it appears to be, it shouldn't be a problem.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Oct 22 @ 12:20 AM ET
Myers to Edm for Yakupov and Petry
- Pegullaville




that is bad .. i would be pissed
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 12:22 AM ET
Myers to Edm for Yakupov and Petry
- Pegullaville




Yeah, no.

IMO Yak has little value as he's a tainted talent.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 12:24 AM ET
He should have hung up on Vancouver when they offered the 24th pick but he said he wouldn't take the 10th pick and now, supposedly, he wants Dylan Larkin the 15th pick and who knows what else but he will be the main part of the package coming back to the Sabres I would think if they make that deal.

I just think when there is smoke there is fire especially when Bob MacKenzie and Darren Dregger are reporting rumors/inside info weekly and extensively, not Ek or TFP, but those insiders and his name has been out there since at least the summer.

- GilPerreault11



I take it as we're listening but not shopping.

You wanna over pay for him? We'll listen.

You say no? click
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 12:28 AM ET
Risto/McCabe have the making of a great pairing. But outside that..... We have the Zadarov situation, and Pysyk won't be anything more than a solid #4
- sbroads24



IMO he has Gorges written all over him.
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