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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
You're taking what I'm saying to an extreme. I've only lobbied for like three in the prospect pool, Laughton, ghost, alt/manning/Haag to get brought up, maybe even Leir
- JoeRussomanno



Honestly what is the point? Are any of those kids going to make a difference right now? I'd sooner see them all get major minutes in the A. The only ones I would consider bring up would be Manning/Lauridsen/maybe Alt but are they better than what is on the big club? I think not.

people were jumping off the bridge last year at this time and they turned it around. While I agree they got worse with swapping Hartnell for Umberger and losing Timonen, this team can still be a playoff team. Personally I go back and forth on what I want to see happen but one constant is I want to see them remain patient and build within. it is a shame G is in him absolute prime but I still think they need to remain patient.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
There is another option everyone seems to forget. Trading youth for youth. A lot of people here seem to think making a trade is mortgaging the future. If I can move a 23yr old for a 23-25yr old that actually fits the team, well I'm definitely making that move. They're called hockey trades. Not everything needs to be a blockbuster move that involves moving guys under 22 for a 30 yr old.
- hereticpride


I don't think anyone's forgetting that. I think it's the first 2 weeks of the regular season and most GMs want to see what their youth can do before cutting ties with them. Also, if our players are underperforming and the team is playing badly, any trade we make is from a position of weakness where we'd be bent over.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
Mayhbe schenn and sbisa hit their potential, just not the one everyond hoped for
- JoeRussomanno


Possible. We'll never know.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 2:32 PM ET
Mayhbe schenn and sbisa hit their potential, just not the one everyond hoped for
- JoeRussomanno


Schenn was taken way too high in the draft.

Sbisa was ruined... and he can't stay healthy.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:32 PM ET
check your privilege bro
- 2Real


Deduct 10 space bucks for use of the term "bro" in a non-ironic way.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 22 @ 2:32 PM ET
On the ground in Miami, waitin for our flight to key west. Any news?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 22 @ 2:32 PM ET
Each guy is different. Luke Schenn and Luca Sbisa are thrown into the fire and never hit their max potential. Drew Doughty and Kris Letang come up young (Doughty his draft year and Letang played 10 AHL games) and are number 1 dmen. Then there are guys like Erik Johnson who struggle for awhile after being thrown into the fire and start putting it together later on. Might be it has nothing to do with being rushed or not. Might be that if I guy was going to pan out, he would unless the situation was excessively bad for him.
- NickTheKid87

FWIW, russ cohen's response to whether MDZ, sbisa were rushed and his opinion about when ghost/morin will be ready (from 10/5/14) https://twitter.com/isaia...status/518924329267265536
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 2:33 PM ET
Honestly what is the point? Are any of those kids going to make a difference right now? I'd sooner see them all get major minutes in the A. The only ones I would consider bring up would be Manning/Lauridsen/maybe Alt but are they better than what is on the big club? I think not.

people were jumping off the bridge last year at this time and they turned it around. While I agree they got worse with swapping Hartnell for Umberger and losing Timonen, this team can still be a playoff team. Personally I go back and forth on what I want to see happen but one constant is I want to see them remain patient and build within. it is a shame G is in him absolute prime but I still think they need to remain patient.

- nastyflyergirl


If it helps u win games it makes all the difference in the world. This is an organization that has had its best years with ypung players at the helm.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:34 PM ET
On the ground in Miami, waitin for our flight to key west. Any news?
- BiggE


Well, Ottawa was under attack. One solider was killed.

Flyers should rush all of their prospects now.

Berube needs to go.

Coburn is the worst defenseman in ever.

Ill behaved for McDavid.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 2:34 PM ET
Honestly what is the point? Are any of those kids going to make a difference right now? I'd sooner see them all get major minutes in the A. The only ones I would consider bring up would be Manning/Lauridsen/maybe Alt but are they better than what is on the big club? I think not.

people were jumping off the bridge last year at this time and they turned it around. While I agree they got worse with swapping Hartnell for Umberger and losing Timonen, this team can still be a playoff team. Personally I go back and forth on what I want to see happen but one constant is I want to see them remain patient and build within. it is a shame G is in him absolute prime but I still think they need to remain patient.

- nastyflyergirl


If it helps u win games it makes all the difference in the world. This is an organization that has had its best years with ypung players at the helm.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 22 @ 2:34 PM ET
On the ground in Miami, waitin for our flight to key west. Any news?
- BiggE

Breaking News:

BiggE on the ground in Miami, waitin for his flight to Key West.

MTC
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:34 PM ET
Mayhbe schenn and sbisa hit their potential, just not the one everyond hoped for
- JoeRussomanno


Very possible. Some guys peak at 18, others at 20, 25, 29, etc. Could be that their talent hit its boundaries early. I think that is a bigger factor than being rushed or what have you.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 2:35 PM ET
I wish I had buddies
- Giroux_Is_God

here here. switch programs and pick up law and we can commiserate.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 22 @ 2:35 PM ET
Breaking News:

BiggE on the ground in Miami, waitin for his flight to Key West.

MTC

- Giroux_Is_God

that's a bigg E5
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 22 @ 2:35 PM ET
Right, but when you start to put these kids into the NHL, you'd want some vets around them while they're adjusting. Do you want those vets to be AMac and MDZ?
- jmatchett383

i'd rather have someone intelligent with the kids rather than coburn
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 2:36 PM ET
Schenn was taken way too high in the draft.

Sbisa was ruined... and he can't stay healthy.

- Tomahawk

If a guy cant stay healthy it really doesnt matter how he was handled.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:36 PM ET
here here. switch programs and pick up law and we can commiserate.
- stayinthefnnet


OBJECTION!
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:36 PM ET
FWIW, russ cohen's response to whether MDZ, sbisa were rushed and his opinion about when ghost/morin will be ready (from 10/5/14) https://twitter.com/isaia...status/518924329267265536
- isaiah520


I'm sure it had some effect on MDZ, Sbisa, Schenn, etc. but I, personally, think that the "rushing" effect is widely overstated and given too great of emphasis.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 22 @ 2:36 PM ET
Deduct 10 space bucks for use of the term "bro" in a non-ironic way.
- jmatchett383

this is the internet we use DKP
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:36 PM ET
i'd rather have someone intelligent with the kids rather than coburn
- 2Real


What makes you think he isn't intelligent?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 2:36 PM ET
i don't give 2 poops about what a penguin fan has to say outside of the leafs they're they biggest losers in hockey and if a penguin fan had the balls to talk poop to me IRL i'd do some IRL PVP
- 2Real

i havent the slightest clue what those letters mean.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:37 PM ET
this is the internet we use DKP
- 2Real


Sorry, I don't play WoW and try to do the whelp cave fight.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:37 PM ET
i havent the slightest clue what those letters mean.
- stayinthefnnet


It means, "Please approach the bench, counselor."
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:37 PM ET
The Berube coaching style....


- PLindbergh31

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 2:39 PM ET

- PhillaBully


I think that's pretty poor taste.
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