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GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Oct 22 @ 11:53 AM ET
As an RFA im wondering if MDZ has much trade value. He had his choice if where he wanted to go in the offseason. I'm sure he shot a few destinations down. I wonder if Carolina would give up a pick for him.
- hereticpride

Del Zotto could be good in the right situation. Sheltered minutes and PP time. Not paired with L.Schenn.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Oct 22 @ 11:53 AM ET
It's not that. We've had a number of guys from juniors come up (Coots at 18, Lindros at 19 are prominent). But when a guy has some serious things to work on, why throw him into a situation he's not prepared for and give him less playing time?
- jmatchett383


Exactly. Give Ghost a chance to work on being a top four defenseman in the AHL and a chance to succeed in that role before bringing him up.

Then hopefully he reaches that potential at the NHL level once he's shown he can handle it in the AHL.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 11:54 AM ET
I don't see it. I hope you're right!
- PLindbergh31


hopefully without hartnell there some of that fire is gone.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
hopefully without hartnell there some of that fire is gone.
- stayinthefnnet


The corpse known as Zomberger is going to go off tonight!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
It's not that. We've had a number of guys from juniors come up (Coots at 18, Lindros at 19 are prominent). But when a guy has some serious things to work on, why throw him into a situation he's not prepared for and give him less playing time?
- jmatchett383

Exactly it can work I just don't agree with this absolutism that every player needs to stay in the minors until whenever... There's players on the team now that need to work on things. I think too many are stuck on guys like sbisa who probably never would have made it to begin with.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
everything is terrible
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 11:57 AM ET
Exactly it can work I just don't agree with this absolutism that every player needs to stay in the minors until whenever... There's players on the team now that need to work on things. I think too many are stuck on guys like sbisa who probably never would have made it to begin with.
- JoeRussomanno


If spots are open, there's a (slight) chance that a guy like Morin could potentially step in next year, assuming he plays well when he comes back. But most players who are not superstars could do well by having some AHL time, it helps develop you for the NHL. It's different for every player. Laughton could have gone either way. But for a guy like Ghost, playing in the AHL is best for him right now.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 22 @ 11:57 AM ET
everything is terrible
- BulliesPhan87


Don't worry. The 8-1-2 stretch once eliminated from playoff contention will put a little bounce in your step.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 22 @ 12:00 PM ET
I've said it once and I'm gonna say it again:

Why is the Lehigh Valley Phantoms website just awful?

The most recent content on the "News" page is from April 2014.

They rarely have any actual content available to viewers and it's an impressive labyrinth of links to buy tickets to a game.

It also just doesn't look very good. Hopefully that is temporary.

If anyone in this forum made the Phantoms official site, I apologize, but you didn't do a very good job

- mcefalu


There's another site that's up to date.

http://www.phantomshockey.com/
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 22 @ 12:01 PM ET
Don't worry. The 8-1-2 stretch once eliminated from playoff contention will put a little bounce in your step.
- PLindbergh31



edit: What draft was that again?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 22 @ 12:01 PM ET
If spots are open, there's a (slight) chance that a guy like Morin could potentially step in next year, assuming he plays well when he comes back. But most players who are not superstars could do well by having some AHL time, it helps develop you for the NHL. It's different for every player. Laughton could have gone either way. But for a guy like Ghost, playing in the AHL is best for him right now.
- jmatchett383



I would look at it this way too. What good is it to bring any of prospects into this atmosphere that is going on. If by the TDL we move players and spots are open then I am ok at that time giving them some expereince because we are out of it and looking to get players ready for next season.

Everyone compains about the Flyers being patient and Hextall is doing that and now all of a sudden we want them up.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 12:02 PM ET
If spots are open, there's a (slight) chance that a guy like Morin could potentially step in next year, assuming he plays well when he comes back. But most players who are not superstars could do well by having some AHL time, it helps develop you for the NHL. It's different for every player. Laughton could have gone either way. But for a guy like Ghost, playing in the AHL is best for him right now.
- jmatchett383

If you say so but that third pairing of MDZ and schenn are an Achilles heal on already weak team, I need to see them eradicated from the lineup
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 22 @ 12:02 PM ET
i now realize why hexxy is keeping the young guys away from this team and coach, i dont care what anyone says this team is assembled to fail and maybe on purpose, worst d ever and half the forwards are ahl players.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 12:03 PM ET
They need to be hungrier. Pre-game pasta dinner eliminated from game-day schedule.
- bradleyc4


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 22 @ 12:03 PM ET


edit: What draft was that again?

- jak521


2013
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 22 @ 12:03 PM ET
everything is terrible
- BulliesPhan87


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 12:03 PM ET
I would look at it this way too. What good is it to bring any of prospects into this atmosphere that is going on. If by the TDL we move players and spots are open then I am ok at that time giving them some expereince because we are out of it and looking to get players ready for next season.

Everyone compains about the Flyers being patient and Hextall is doing that and now all of a sudden we want them up.

- J35Bacher

Nobody wants all the prospects up, just a few that could conceivably help shore some weak spots and if not will at least learn on the job.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 12:04 PM ET
The corpse known as Zomberger is going to go off tonight!
- PLindbergh31


that would certainly suck.

simmonds is who im worried about other than the giroux/voracek line.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Oct 22 @ 12:05 PM ET
There's another site that's up to date.

http://www.phantomshockey.com/

- Feanor


Hahahaha of course there is.

If you google Lehigh Valley Phantoms, that old phantomsarena.com shows up.

Thanks for the tip!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 12:06 PM ET
If you say so but that third pairing of MDZ and schenn are an Achilles heal on already weak team, I need to see them eradicated from the lineup
- JoeRussomanno


Putting Ghost in either of those spots won't magically turn the team around. Since he won't drastically help the team, better for the organization to help him by letting him get acclimated to the pro game in the AHL.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 22 @ 12:07 PM ET
Nobody wants all the prospects up, just a few that could conceivably help shore some weak spots and if not will at least learn on the job.
- JoeRussomanno



Shore up spots for what? If you bring up Ghost to play maybe 10 mintues on the third pair what does he get out of it. Yes he gets to fac e NHL skill but he won't see any PP or situations that he gets in the AHL that he uses his full range of talent for.

Bring up Manning then as he is an AHL vet now and young enough to maybe find out if he can handle the NHL. Othere then that no reason to bring up the kids.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 12:07 PM ET
that would certainly suck.

simmonds is who im worried about other than the giroux/voracek line.

- stayinthefnnet


You'd have to worry about him more if Berube had the balls to put Simmer on G's wing.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 12:07 PM ET
i now realize why hexxy is keeping the young guys away from this team and coach, i dont care what anyone says this team is assembled to fail and maybe on purpose, worst d ever and half the forwards are ahl players.
- mydoglicks


You're not familiar with the early 90s Flyers, are you?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 22 @ 12:07 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y
- bradleyc4


Good luck, everyone, with getting that song out of your head.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 22 @ 12:08 PM ET
Hahahaha of course there is.

If you google Lehigh Valley Phantoms, that old phantomsarena.com shows up.

Thanks for the tip!

- mcefalu


I ran into the same problem when I was scoping out some days for a Phantoms road trip.
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