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Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
Not sure if it were you that compared their plus/minus, but I can garauntee that Yak would have a better result had he been a Hab. That's a useless stat anyway, but I thought I bring it up.
- Jeropotato


To be fair, that would be the case for pretty much any Oiler...
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:30 AM ET
TOI
- soad_live

I was referencing an earlier post.
Biggus Dickus
Montreal Canadiens
Location: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
Joined: 02.13.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:30 AM ET
Not sure if it were you that compared their plus/minus, but I can garauntee that Yak would have a better result had he been a Hab. That's a useless stat anyway, but I thought I bring it up.
- Jeropotato

+/- isn't the best stat. But it does indicate you are on the ice more often for goals against.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Oct 23 @ 11:30 AM ET
Not sure if it were you that compared their plus/minus, but I can garauntee that Yak would have a better result had he been a Hab. That's a useless stat anyway, but I thought I bring it up.
- Jeropotato


Certainly not.
+/- are okay if you compare players on the same team, and then again.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:30 AM ET
To be fair, that would be the case for pretty much any Oiler...
- Habsody

That my point.
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:32 AM ET
That my point.
- Jeropotato


Has the owners considered firing the GM and Coach? Did wonders for Montreal.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:34 AM ET
I dont think anyone is saying you absolutely need to trade one of these players - they're saying that the kind of players you are looking for are generally coveted by their respective teams. They arent readily available and for the most part these teams arent intent on trading the player. So you may not get fair market value for Yak or Eberle IF oilers mgmt decides to trade them. The fans of other teams aren't the ones writing the articles and swirling trade rumours. If and its a big if Yak or Eb gets traded i'm not certain it will be for fair market value because the oilers are trading from a position of weakness. They are the ones losing and desperately trying to find a solution (not saying that letting them mature isnt a solution - just going with the media hype here).

As for the Galchenyuk debate i wouldnt trade him straight up for Eberle. Just like the Avs likely wouldnt trade Mack, the Lightning wouldnt trade Drouin...these are all players that have extremely high ceilings whereas I think we've got a fairly good idea of the type of player Eberle is (not saying he couldnt get much better just saying he is more of a known commodity then Galchenyuk). Personally, i think Galchenyuk will mature into a better player which is why i'd keep him - not saying its a guarantee or that he's better right this moment but thats just my opinion.

- Joel_Eh


Good post. Just so you know, there is next to no talk of trading either of these in the local media. Just national drivel. But we all know by now that those idiots are just looking for something to chatter about.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:34 AM ET
Has the owners considered firing the GM and Coach? Did wonders for Montreal.
- l3ig_l2ecl

Yeah. They did that a year ago. Where were you?
Biggus Dickus
Montreal Canadiens
Location: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
Joined: 02.13.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:35 AM ET
Good post. Just so you know, there is next to no talk of trading either of these in the local media. Just national drivel. But we all know by now that those idiots are just looking for something to chatter about.
- Jeropotato

to be fair to bobby mac he says the habs are likely interested in chris stewart from buff
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
Not garbage but not as good as Galchenyuk, far from it.
- soad_live

Maybe. The story hasn't been finished yet on either tho.
soad_live
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Québec, QC
Joined: 10.23.2008

Oct 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
to be fair to bobby mac he says the habs are likely interested in chris stewart from buff
- Biggus Richardus


Yep, but they need to get rid of Bourque and maybe Moen before.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:38 AM ET
Well, my point was that you couldn't ask for a 2C + a top 2 D for Eberle. And by top 4 D i mean Boychuk-esque a proven one not a fringe 2nd pairing like Fayne or Petry.
- Habsody

I totally agree. One or the other as principle pieces coming back, but no way both.
l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Unfortunately, QC
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:38 AM ET
Yeah. They did that a year ago. Where were you?
- Jeropotato


Oh yeah, I forgot....

They fired him by giving him the highest position in the organization.

Oh and his replacement? Yeah, came from the organization.

So let me rephrase my question. Have they considered getting rid of the crappy management and replacing it with non losers?
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:42 AM ET
Oh yeah, I forgot....

They fired him by giving him the highest position in the organization

- l3ig_l2ecl

Oh my.....you clearly don't know what your talking about.

Kevin Lowe was promoted to President close to 6 or 7 years ago.

Steve Tambellini was fired very late in the 2012-13 season.

Can we please get some more educated trolls around here? We get enough of this low level trash talk from the Calgary fans.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
Oh yeah, I forgot....

They fired him by giving him the highest position in the organization.

Oh and his replacement? Yeah, came from the organization.

So let me rephrase my question. Have they considered getting rid of the crappy management and replacing it with non losers?

- l3ig_l2ecl


Can you take a closer look at the history of Oilers management? You don't have your facts together.
Biggus Dickus
Montreal Canadiens
Location: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
Joined: 02.13.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:49 AM ET
I have an idea to resolve the tensions.

We recognize this is just a rumour and won't happen.

And go back to watching eberle cherry pick and go missing for stretches,

and us habs fans keep the overated Pleks and team full of scrubs and continue to watch our team collect points in the standings.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:50 AM ET
+/- isn't the best stat. But it does indicate you are on the ice more often for goals against.
- Biggus Richardus

EDM's D sucks and they don't have a Carey Price to keep the puck out, take
+/- for what it's worth...not much
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
I have an idea to resolve the tensions.

We recognize this is just a rumour and won't happen.

And go back to watching eberle cherry pick and go missing for stretches,

and us habs fans keep the overated Pleks and team full of scrubs and continue to watch our team collect points in the standings.

- Biggus Richardus

"either the oilers make the trade we want them to or they must enjoy losing"

heard it before
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:53 AM ET
Yeah but at 24 years old, you know what Eberle will give you. At 20, you don't even know Galchenyuk's ceiling. And from what i'v seen to date this year, i have no problem to state that Galchenyuk is already has good has Eberle. To cite Bobby MacK :

Sky is the limit as far as what Galchenyuk's might do

Plus, he is a big forward who can play wing and center.

I think you would have to add a lot to Eberle to get your hands on Galchenyuk. Like Habs would have to add to Plekanec to get Eberle.

- soad_live


The difference in Plekanec to Eberle is equivalent to the difference in eberle to Galchenyuk?

Holy eff.

I wouldn't believe this was actually a serious post if it wasn't written by a hab fan
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
Seems kinda strange that the Habs would want a smallish scoring winger.
- Jeropotato


agree. Eberle's a good player but i don't think he's what Montreal is missing right now. and if Edmonton is looking for D, Montreal doesn't exactly have quality Dmen to spare.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
"either the oilers make the trade we want them to or they must enjoy losing"

heard it before

- Morris



U can't get better unless u lose a trade and take our lesser players! Losing culture!
Biggus Dickus
Montreal Canadiens
Location: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
Joined: 02.13.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
"either the oilers make the trade we want them to or they must enjoy losing"

heard it before

- Morris

they will eventually turn it around

and if you back read I suggest the oilers shouldn't trade eberle
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
agree. Eberle's a good player but i don't think he's what Montreal is missing right now. and if Edmonton is looking for D, Montreal doesn't exactly have quality Dmen to spare.
- DoubleDown

that about sums it up
Biggus Dickus
Montreal Canadiens
Location: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
Joined: 02.13.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
agree. Eberle's a good player but i don't think he's what Montreal is missing right now. and if Edmonton is looking for D, Montreal doesn't exactly have quality Dmen to spare.
- DoubleDown

nope
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
agree. Eberle's a good player but i don't think he's what Montreal is missing right now. and if Edmonton is looking for D, Montreal doesn't exactly have quality Dmen to spare.
- DoubleDown

There's no trade to be made.

U guys don't wanna give up the assets that we'd want. Ur winning right now.

We don't want/need prospects or picks as value to even out a trade
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