Odin is displeased with you.
- jmatchett383

I'm sure he's rolling his eye at this whole conversation.

Jesus only drank wine
- vejim

... but he likes to get high as a mother(frank)er:

I'm sure he's rolling his eye at this whole conversation.
- BulliesPhan87

His ravens and goats too.

ah first post of the day and its a double dipper. my sincerest apologies
- stayinthefnnet

We expect it from Pens fans...

I'm sure he's rolling his eye at this whole conversation.
- BulliesPhan87

His ravens and goats too.
- mayorofangrytown

"Ugh."
-Raven (nevermore)

- jmatchett383

Thanks. I stole that for facebook.

Are you a semanticist? Answer ONE question with a simple yes or no.

Have the Flyers won more games than they have lost?
- jak521

No, they have not won more games they they have lost. And it has zero to do with semantics. And everthing to do with how the NHL standings are calculated according to the NHL.

- PLindbergh31

I didn't know the Ty Burrell got a new job.

It's still an opinion that this is the authoritative definition of a .500 team.
- BulliesPhan87

He's missing the point you're making. The Flyers have 50% of possible points so they are .500. The Flyers won 4 or 9 games so they are not .500. No one is wrong for believing either one of these things.

It is a fact that the Flyers have 50% of the points they could have.

It is a fact that the Flyers have won 44.4% of their games.

It's still an opinion that this is the authoritative definition of a .500 team.
- BulliesPhan87

It's not my opinion. It's a fact in that's how the NHL calculates the standings. If it was based on my opinion of what I think a .500 team should be, I would say the Flyers aren't a .500 team. But my opinion doesn't matter, just like any other fans opinion of what a .500 team is, or what it should be. The NHL has determined how the standings are calculated. And it's based on points. And the Flyers are an above .500 team in points.

He's missing the point you're making. The Flyers have 50% of possible points so they are .500. The Flyers won 4 or 9 games so they are not .500. No one is wrong for believing either one of these things.

It is a fact that the Flyers have 50% of the points they could have.

It is a fact that the Flyers have won 44.4% of their games.
- NickTheKid87

The Flyers do not have a winning percentage of 0.500 or better
The Flyers do have a points percentage of 0.500 or better

All agreed?

He's missing the point you're making. The Flyers have 50% of possible points so they are .500. The Flyers won 4 or 9 games so they are not .500. No one is wrong for believing either one of these things.

It is a fact that the Flyers have 50% of the points they could have.

It is a fact that the Flyers have won 44.4% of their games.
- NickTheKid87

You're incorrect. I'm not missing the point he's making. I'm saying his point is wrong.

The Flyers do not have a winning percentage of 0.500
The Flyers do have a points percentage of 0.500

All agreed?
- jmatchett383

I think you're on to something...

"The Flyers are not .500 because they haven't won half their games!"
"Wrong, the Flyers are .500 because they have half the points they could have!"
"I'm not talking about points, I'm talking about wins!"
"Well you're wrong because that's not what the NHL uses in the standings!"
"That's ok because that's not what I'm talking about!"
"Well you're wrong!"
"But I'm not talking about what you're talking about!"
"But if I act like you are, that makes you wrong and me right! So there!"
" "

You're incorrect. I'm not missing the point he's making. I'm saying his point is wrong.
- MJL

It's not wrong though.

It's not my opinion. It's a fact in that's how the NHL calculates the standings. If it was based on my opinion of what I think a .500 team should be, I would say the Flyers aren't a .500 team. But my opinion doesn't matter, just like any other fans opinion of what a .500 team is, or what it should be. The NHL has determined how the standings are calculated. And it's based on points. And the Flyers are an above .500 team in points.
- MJL

The standings are indeed calculated that way. There's no authority on which method is used to formally bestow ".500 status" on a team, therefore it's opinion.

Please proceed to type a lot more words.

It's not wrong though.
- NickTheKid87

Yes it is. Because if I dismiss the official standings from the equation, and how the NHL calculates those standings. And give my opinion on what I think should qualify a team to be considered .500. Then the answer would be different.

No, they have not won more games they they have lost. And it has zero to do with semantics. And everthing to do with how the NHL standings are calculated according to the NHL.
- MJL

Have they lost more games than they have won?

The standings are indeed calculated that way. There's no authority on which method is used to formally bestow ".500 status" on a team, therefore it's opinion.

Please proceed to type a lot more words.
- BulliesPhan87

No matter how you slice it, the Flyers are not a .500 team.

They have won 4/9 games for a win% of 44.44%.

They have earned 10 out of a possible 18 points for a points percentage of 55.55%.

Yes it is. Because if I dismiss the official standings from the equation, and how the NHL calculates those standings. And give my opinion on what I think should qualify a team to be considered .500. Then the answer would be different.
- MJL

So what? You're assuming that being labeled a .500 team makes any kind of difference when in reality it means nothing. So going by points or going by wins is up to the person.

So what? You're assuming that being labeled a .500 team makes any kind of difference when in reality it means nothing. So going by points or going by wins is up to the person.
- NickTheKid87

Heresay.

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FILIBUSTER!

The standings are indeed calculated that way. There's no authority on which method is used to formally bestow ".500 status" on a team, therefore it's opinion.

Please proceed to type a lot more words.
- BulliesPhan87

I get a kick out of it when one side is equally involved in the debate, and then proceeds to try and belittle the other side for continuing in the debate.

But I digress. Yes, there is an authority on how a team is determined to be a .500 team. That authority is the NHL. Just because you or I, or anyone else disagrees with how it is calculated. Such as how wins in the shootout are awarded. Doesn't change the facts.

Sometimes back reading this thread is remarkably similar to rubbing your eyeballs with sandpaper
- BiggE

Sometimes?