I guess I could counter and ask why it matters to you at all?
- SuperSchennBros

It doesn't matter to me, I was just curious why you whipped it out of nowhere.

He had a lot of times where he lost one-on-one board battles, had a number of plays where the puck seemed to slide off his stick, didn't move the puck especially well, had some pretty horrendous coverage issues, and was able to be knocked off the puck with seeing ease. Not saying every shift was a nightmare, but he had far from even an adequate game in my opinion.

Whatever, not gonna sit here and have circular arguments all day long.
- jmatchett383

We must of watched the game on different TV's. Because Luke Schenn was much better then that. And Simmonds probably had his worst game of the year with the puck. he struggled with it all game.

He had a lot of times where he lost one-on-one board battles, had a number of plays where the puck seemed to slide off his stick, didn't move the puck especially well, had some pretty horrendous coverage issues, and was able to be knocked off the puck with seeing ease. Not saying every shift was a nightmare, but he had far from even an adequate game in my opinion.

Whatever, not gonna sit here and have circular arguments all day long.
- jmatchett383

We must of watched the game on different TV's. Because Luke Schenn was much better then that. And Simmonds probably had his worst game of the year with the puck. he struggled with it all game.

I know the cap numbers would not match, but if Hextall had a deal for one of those guys and wanted to do to it. I am sure he could make other minor moves to make it cap friendly.
I said IMO I think Laughton would not be much of a drop off from B Schenn.
Could Laughton score 15 goals on that second line, and play a solid all round game? I think that is feasible, therefore that is not much of a drop off.
- 3flyerkids

Laughton is a center, and the organization has said publicly they want him to be a center. They are also pretty clear that, right now, they want Schenn to be a winger. So I don't think the comparison is valid.

I know the cap numbers would not match, but if Hextall had a deal for one of those guys and wanted to do to it. I am sure he could make other minor moves to make it cap friendly.
I said IMO I think Laughton would not be much of a drop off from B Schenn.
Could Laughton score 15 goals on that second line, and play a solid all round game? I think that is feasible, therefore that is not much of a drop off.
- 3flyerkids

It would require more then a minor deal. And the cap issue is not the only issue. It would require more then B Schenn going the other way. I realize it was your opinion, but still I haven't read a basis for that.

He'll be on one or the other PP units for sure.

I wondering about 5 v 5.

I thought he had something going with Umberger early on.

And I'm not a huge fan of him Schenn and Simmonds.

Easiest thing I suppose is let him take Bellemares spot and put Bellemare with Akeson and Rinaldo.
- Marc D

When Vinny returns, I would like to see Berube experiment with running PEB with Coots and Read. I think that may help that line add some more offense jump....especially with Read appearing to be struggling to find his game a tad.

Then Drop Umby to Center betwen Rinaldo and Akeson. He should be at least as effective as Chris V in that spot, so I dont know there is that much risk because PEB is pretty responsible from a defensive point.

When Vinny returns, I would like to see Berube experiment with running PEB with Coots and Read. I think that may help that line add some more offense jump....especially with Read appearing to be struggling to find his game a tad.

Then Drop Umby to Center betwen Rinaldo and Akeson. He should be at least as effective as Chris V in that spot, so I dont know there is that much risk because PEB is pretty responsible from a defensive point.
- juiced

I don't think it's a bad idea, except that they seem to want to keep PEB at the C spot. I think Umberger has been an adequate-at-worst member of that line, and I like the speed and skill PEB could bring to the 4th line.

It doesn't matter to me, I was just curious why you whipped it out of nowhere.
- jmatchett383

Which would suggest that you care enough to ask and continue forcing the issue on something so minor.

Now, even though you'll deny it but I think you're asking because you think it's a single bullet meant for you. You have, as well as a few others in the last 24 hours have either downplayed Emery's play or have wanted Mason back in net in fear that he'll lose his starting role, which he wont. I'm not saying you have been both of these examples but you have been one and have felt the need to argue about it, like now.

For me to poke fun at this, is no different from poking fun at the Grossmann haters, which apparently haven't gotten out bed yet.

Defensive much, much...much??

Which would suggest that you care enough to ask and continue forcing the issue on something so minor.

Now, even though you'll deny it but I think you're asking because you think it's a single bullet meantfor you. You have, as well as a few others in the last 24 hours have either downplayed Emery's play or have wanted Mason back in net in fear that he'll lose his starting role, which he wont. I'm not saying you have been both of these examples but you have been one and have felt the need to argue about it, like now.

For me to poke fun at this, is no different from poking fun at the Grossmann haters, which apparently haven't gotten out bed yet.

Defensive much, much...much??
- SuperSchennBros

okay sparky.

okay sparky.
- jmatchett383

Feel better Susie?

Feel better Susie?
- SuperSchennBros

okay sparky

okay sparky.
- jmatchett383

Feel better Susie?
- SuperSchennBros

wow, our intense internet battles have gotten kind of... um... untense.

It would require more then a minor deal. And the cap issue is not the only issue. It would require more then B Schenn going the other way. I realize it was your opinion, but still I haven't read a basis for that.
- MJL

Well I guess it would depend on what more it would require.
A basis.. IMO Laughton and Schenn can play a similar game, and if it meant adding legit blueline help and Laughton in place of Schenn,the team could better off

now we just need somebody to do the hockey horoscopes
- BulliesPhan87

B Schenn is a virgo and L Schenn is a scorpio

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/616098

So apparently Schenn was acting like a baby when his goal was nearly called back. Unlike Quick who lost his poop when the call stood on the ice.
- SuperSchennBros

nice call

Overall, a very nice game. They absolutely dominated LA in the first period, and I thought they carried the play a bit more in the 3rd. The second period was a but of a letdown, but against this LA team, I'll take it. My notes:

The Good:
- Voracek was a flat-out superstar last night. The play that stands out most for me was when he pulled the puck around Doughty and split 3 LA players to get an in-tight shot against Quick. It wasn't a goal, but it showed how dominating he can be even against superstar players.

- Simmonds was probably the Flyers second-best skater. He was all over the place (a bit too much on his first-period penalty). He just narrowly missed a slam-dunk PP goal. Was very active and creating havoc all over the ice.

- Couturier has a monster of a game. Defensively, he was very strong on the puck carrier and broke up some very nice passes. Would have preferred him to shoot on his 2-on-1, but he led the way defensively and had some good offensive pressure.

The Bad:
- Shayne Gostisbehere had a largely forgettable game. Aside from giving me a heart attacks skating the puck directly in front of Emery through 2 Kings (good job, NEVER DO IT AGAIN, he made some very bad reads, didn't win a single board battle, and made some gaffes with the puck. All of these things are correctable, but he showed, to me, why he needs more time in the AHL. In the NHL, even the smallest mistake will be exploited, and he had more than a few of them. I still love the kid and think he can be a difference-maker, but he needs time.

- Matt Read also may want to forget last night. His forced, low-percentage pass to MDZ on the PP was about as bad of a decision as you can make. I'd rather you eat it or throw it down low (although there was no support). He didn't do much with the puck and he wasn't doing much without it. He seems to have lost a bit this season so far.

- Zac Rinaldo. This is a bit unfair, because he actually played a largely solid if unspectacular game. But the play on the Richards goal is about as bad as can be. He was playing with the puck facing the wrong way high in the zone with pressure. Instead of playing it back to a D or shifting to his backhand and chipping it deep, he was knocked down, and coverage was never able to be established. A pretty unforgiveable play.
- jmatchett383

Any thought to moving Read off the PP and bringing Akeson onto it? When VL returns, Schenn will move back to the 2nd unit as well.

I feel the team is wasting Akeson by playing him 5 minutes per night with Rinaldo and VDV. I feel the PP is the perfect place for him to get some minutes. That 2nd unit could really use a guy with passing touch as well.

wow, our intense internet battles have gotten kind of... um... untense.
- BulliesPhan87

You don't even know...I need another cup of coffee.

I don't think it's a bad idea, except that they seem to want to keep PEB at the C spot. I think Umberger has been an adequate-at-worst member of that line, and I like the speed and skill PEB could bring to the 4th line.
- jmatchett383

I do like Umbergers size with Couturier because a lot of times they are facing the top line. Example last night. Still my ideal winger would be someone with a little more grit to the line. guys that come to mind are Macus Foligno, brad Marchand, Chris stewart, jamie mcginn, alex burmistrov maybe even a zack kassian or raffi torres or matt beleksy

Any thought to moving Read off the PP and bringing Akeson onto it? When VL returns, Schenn will move back to the 2nd unit as well.

I feel the team is wasting Akeson by playing him 5 minutes per night with Rinaldo and VDV. I feel the PP is the perfect place for him to get some minutes. That 2nd unit could really use a guy with passing touch as well.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'd be okay with putting Akeson out there. I feel like Berube is trying to make him something he's not. Much like VLC, you need to put him into situations where he can best use his skillset, which if mostly offensive.

When can I expect my $$?

Any thought to moving Read off the PP and bringing Akeson onto it? When VL returns, Schenn will move back to the 2nd unit as well.

I feel the team is wasting Akeson by playing him 5 minutes per night with Rinaldo and VDV. I feel the PP is the perfect place for him to get some minutes. That 2nd unit could really use a guy with passing touch as well.
- PhillySportsGuy

what is the story with Read?

Any thought to moving Read off the PP and bringing Akeson onto it? When VL returns, Schenn will move back to the 2nd unit as well.

I feel the team is wasting Akeson by playing him 5 minutes per night with Rinaldo and VDV. I feel the PP is the perfect place for him to get some minutes. That 2nd unit could really use a guy with passing touch as well.
- PhillySportsGuy

Can I ask what Akeson does that makes you feel he should be on PP? I mean people a little bit ago were talking about Matt Read should be on top line. Now we want him off the 2nd PP. I feel like Akeson is Jermey Lin. Played well for a little bit and now eveyone thinks he is better than what he is.

Any thought to moving Read off the PP and bringing Akeson onto it? When VL returns, Schenn will move back to the 2nd unit as well.

I feel the team is wasting Akeson by playing him 5 minutes per night with Rinaldo and VDV. I feel the PP is the perfect place for him to get some minutes. That 2nd unit could really use a guy with passing touch as well.
- PhillySportsGuy

Did I mishear or did Akeson get hurt last night?

I was unable to watch the game last night and was following via twitter.

I do like Umbergers size with Couturier because a lot of times they are facing the top line. Example last night. Still my ideal winger would be someone with a little more grit to the line. guys that come to mind are Macus Foligno, brad Marchand, Chris stewart, jamie mcginn, alex burmistrov maybe even a zack kassian or raffi torres or matt beleksy
- J35Bacher

Raffi Torres? The Flyers are trying to remove stupid from the lineup, not add it

I do like Umbergers size with Couturier because a lot of times they are facing the top line. Example last night. Still my ideal winger would be someone with a little more grit to the line. guys that come to mind are Macus Foligno, brad Marchand, Chris stewart, jamie mcginn, alex burmistrov maybe even a zack kassian or raffi torres or matt beleksy
- J35Bacher

I want Raffi Torres nowhere near this team. Also, they had that "grit" guy last year in Steve Downie and, injured or not, it was a trainwreck. He may not be the ideal guy, but I think Umberger does just fine out there, in a very unnoticeable way.

I'm gonna disagree. For a big, stay-at-home defensive defenseman, his defense was not fine. I don't know how it came across on the TV, but he was pretty bad last night.
- jmatchett383

Schenn has been pretty much brutal all year. When Coburn and MacDonald come back he should be in the press box.