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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 29 @ 10:28 AM ET
I'd be okay with putting Akeson out there. I feel like Berube is trying to make him something he's not. Much like VLC, you need to put him into situations where he can best use his skillset, which if mostly offensive.

When can I expect my $$?

- jmatchett383


I'm going to mail you 200 pennies, which will probably cost $20 to mail.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 29 @ 10:28 AM ET
Can I ask what Akeson does that makes you feel he should be on PP? I mean people a little bit ago were talking about Matt Read should be on top line. Now we want him off the 2nd PP. I feel like Akeson is Jermey Lin. Played well for a little bit and now eveyone thinks he is better than what he is.
- J35Bacher


Akeson does have good hands and good vision.

The PP does not demand of Akeson the things he's not great at......like skating and defending.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 29 @ 10:29 AM ET
Schenn has been pretty much brutal all year. When Coburn and MacDonald come back he should be in the press box.
- PLindbergh31

he is too slow to get there
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 29 @ 10:29 AM ET
I do like Umbergers size with Couturier because a lot of times they are facing the top line. Example last night. Still my ideal winger would be someone with a little more grit to the line. guys that come to mind are Macus Foligno, brad Marchand, Chris stewart, jamie mcginn, alex burmistrov maybe even a zack kassian or raffi torres or matt beleksy
- J35Bacher

Raffi (frank)in Torres. Unbelievable.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 29 @ 10:31 AM ET
Can I ask what Akeson does that makes you feel he should be on PP? I mean people a little bit ago were talking about Matt Read should be on top line. Now we want him off the 2nd PP. I feel like Akeson is Jermey Lin. Played well for a little bit and now eveyone thinks he is better than what he is.
- J35Bacher


Akeson won an OHL scoring title (granted, it's juniors, and he was an overager). But he's had good numbers at every level. He's not some second stringer who went on a 1-week tear. He's not a primary scoring option, but he's a valid secondary option.

As for Read, he's struggled offensively much of the season. I never thought he should have been a top-line forward option personally. I think it's more about trying something different than about kicking a player off the unit. Can't hurt to give it a different look right now.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 29 @ 10:31 AM ET
I'm going to mail you 200 pennies, which will probably cost $20 to mail.
- PhillySportsGuy


$$$ = $$$
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 29 @ 10:31 AM ET
he is too slow to get there
- vejim


That was so cold, I laughed in my office again, which means people know I'm not working again

Are you trying to get me in trouble at work? Why? What have I ever done to you
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
what is the story with Read?
- vejim


He's had a rough start to the year. I feel like he's wearing down mentally a bit. He's been used in that 3rd line defensive role for years now. His zone starts and QoC is only getting tougher and tougher each year.

This is strictly a personal opinion of course. I have no evidence to back this up. He just doesn't have the jump he normally does.

Could just be early season struggles or maybe a lingering injury of some sort.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
he is too slow to get there
- vejim




elevator
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
Schenn has been pretty much brutal all year. When Coburn and MacDonald come back he should be in the press box.
- PLindbergh31


It wouldn't surprise me, honestly. I've actually been impressed with Grossmann, he's actually stepped his game up the last couple...of course, could be the Hal Gill effect.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
He's had a rough start to the year. I feel like he's wearing down mentally a bit. He's been used in that 3rd line defensive role for years now. His zone starts and QoC is only getting tougher and tougher each year.

This is strictly a personal opinion of course. I have no evidence to back this up. He just doesn't have the jump he normally does.

Could just be early season struggles or maybe a lingering injury of some sort.

- PhillySportsGuy

Heresay and speculation
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 29 @ 10:33 AM ET


elevator

- PLindbergh31


Too fat to fit in it.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
It wouldn't surprise me, honestly. I've actually been impressed with Grossmann, he's actually stepped his game up the last couple...of course, could be the Hal Gill effect.
- jmatchett383


Grossmann has been solid for the most part. Schultz has been a pleasant surprise. Only question is can he maintain it? He was signed to be the 7th dman, can he really play 70+ games?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
He's had a rough start to the year. I feel like he's wearing down mentally a bit. He's been used in that 3rd line defensive role for years now. His zone starts and QoC is only getting tougher and tougher each year.

This is strictly a personal opinion of course. I have no evidence to back this up. He just doesn't have the jump he normally does.

Could just be early season struggles or maybe a lingering injury of some sort.

- PhillySportsGuy


This is an interesting theory
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
He's had a rough start to the year. I feel like he's wearing down mentally a bit. He's been used in that 3rd line defensive role for years now. His zone starts and QoC is only getting tougher and tougher each year.

This is strictly a personal opinion of course. I have no evidence to back this up. He just doesn't have the jump he normally does.

Could just be early season struggles or maybe a lingering injury of some sort.

- PhillySportsGuy


Can we please stick to discussing only the facts and engage in a circular debate?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 29 @ 10:33 AM ET
Flyers recall Manning
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 29 @ 10:34 AM ET
Too fat to fit in it.
- jmatchett383


His regression is unbelievable.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 29 @ 10:34 AM ET
Grossmann has been solid for the most part. Schultz has been a pleasant surprise. Only question is can he maintain it? He was signed to be the 7th dman, can he really play 70+ games?
- PLindbergh31


He can play 70 games. Playing them at the same level, probably not.

Also, I'd be a bit surprised if Ghost isn't sent down for this road trip, and 2 of Alt/Manning/Lauridsen aren't recalled.

Edit:

Flyers recall Manning
- nastyflyergirl

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 29 @ 10:34 AM ET
Can I ask what Akeson does that makes you feel he should be on PP? I mean people a little bit ago were talking about Matt Read should be on top line. Now we want him off the 2nd PP. I feel like Akeson is Jermey Lin. Played well for a little bit and now eveyone thinks he is better than what he is.
- J35Bacher


His skill set is suited for the PP and the 2nd unit is lacking a player with his skill set. I feel it's a perfect match. I'm not saying he should be moved to the top line. I just think the 2nd unit could use a playmaker with passing ability.

Akeson is an average skater with smallish size and average defensive ability. He excels with the puck on his stick when given time and space.

Edit: I never advocated Read for the top line. I think he's fine where he is. I just don't like how that line is used and I'm not a huge fan of Umberger on that line either.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 29 @ 10:35 AM ET
Flyers recall Manning
- nastyflyergirl


Ghost was in a bit over his head. Still has a bright future.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
He can play 70 games. Playing them at the same level, probably not.

Also, I'd be a bit surprised if Ghost isn't sent down for this road trip, and 2 of Alt/Manning/Lauridsen aren't recalled.

Edit:

- jmatchett383


NFG just posted Manning was recalled. I believe Alt is injured unfortunately.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
Flyers recall Manning
- nastyflyergirl


Yeah, you could see that coming -- need another guy for the road
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
Can we please stick to discussing only the facts and engage in a circular debate?
- jmatchett383

like a circle jerk?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 29 @ 10:37 AM ET
Yeah, you could see that coming -- need another guy for the road
- AllInForFlyers


I think Akeson got injured last night as well.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 29 @ 10:38 AM ET
like a circle jerk?
- vejim


Not what I was going for, but quite a splendid idea.
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