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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 3 @ 4:34 PM ET
Go to your room
- VanHockeyGuy

bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Nov 3 @ 4:35 PM ET
That's why we have twice as much hockey knowledge as you, experience is on our side!!
- LeftCoaster

Ehhhhh... Tell that to my dad, he is the same generation as you guys
I actually have a sneaking suspicion one of his friends is Vantel. Currently residing in the Philippines with his 25 y/o wife
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Nov 3 @ 4:37 PM ET
So Don Cherry is the best hockey analyst?
- Nucker101

Tony Gallagher can be measurably confirmed as the greatest hockey mind alive. Measure the dust content and you will find a direct correlation with hockey wisdom
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Nov 3 @ 4:38 PM ET
Also what do you guys know about Barzal? Seems like he may be around in our pick range
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Nov 3 @ 4:38 PM ET
Tony Gallagher can be measurably confirmed as the greatest hockey mind alive. Measure the dust content and you will find a direct correlation with hockey wisdom
- bezz44



NOPE....... Nick Kypreos and Pj Stock are Far Superior.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 3 @ 4:39 PM ET
This is why I have such a huge issue with the suspension. The league had an opportunity to mitigate any future retaliation by levying a correct length of suspension for a repeat offender and this incident becomes a non issue. Instead the league is more interested in creating rivalries and stories at the expense of the player safety. I keep thinking about the Moore incident and wonder if the league had just stepped in and suspended Moore for 5 games for the Knee on Knee collision and there would have been no need for vigilante justice.
I wonder if there are stats that shows the suspension and the team the foul was committed against. For example if the teams are in the same division, conference the suspensions are always less then if they are cross conference. This instantly creates the hatred and rivalries between the teams to sell more tickets and get more TV viewership.

- Linden_4_Capt


The league really has to figure out where it stands on hitting and high hits around the head and blind side hits.

They are worrying too much about intent. I don't want to take hitting out of hockey but players and the league have to agree on the purpose of hitting and go from there. Trying to demolish guys is nice for the highlight package but not good for the health of players.

The league has to rethink late hits - and what it means to finish checks.

There is change coming, hope they don't mess up the game.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 3 @ 4:40 PM ET
So Don Cherry is the best hockey analyst?
- Nucker101

He's never been an "analyst" - more of an opinion column
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Nov 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
NOPE....... Nick Kypreos and Pj Stock are Far Superior.
- classic321

Nope Glen Healy because he played hockey and knows that goalies playing back to back games have no correlation to losses.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
Tony Gallagher can be measurably confirmed as the greatest hockey mind alive. Measure the dust content and you will find a direct correlation with hockey wisdom
- bezz44



An even better example! Gallagher for Canucks GM. Then bring Quinn back as HC.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Nov 3 @ 4:42 PM ET
Nope Glen Healy because he played hockey and knows that goalies playing back to back games have no correlation to losses.
- Linden_4_Capt


I think that we can all agree that the best analysts are based in Toronto.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 3 @ 4:43 PM ET
Also what do you guys know about Barzal? Seems like he may be around in our pick range
- bezz44

I'd like to see more outta him, he's not exactly "lighting it up" this year…his numbers are ok but he can be better.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Nov 3 @ 4:43 PM ET


An even better example! Gallagher for Canucks GM. Then bring Quinn back as HC.

- Nucker101

Dig up Ghenghis Khan's bones and find ourselves a Mongolian translator as well as a shaman. (frank)in beaut of a business plan
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Nov 3 @ 4:44 PM ET
I'd like to see more outta him, he's not exactly "lighting it up" this year…his numbers are ok but he can be better.
- LeftCoaster

Oh okay, I hadn't heard anything this year but in the past he has been mentioned in pretty high regard. We could use a center with 1st line upside
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 3 @ 4:49 PM ET
Oh okay, I hadn't heard anything this year but in the past he has been mentioned in pretty high regard. We could use a center with 1st line upside
- bezz44

T-Birds don't exactly have the best team this year, but he can be better.

Nick Merkley is a similar type player.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Nov 3 @ 4:50 PM ET
I think that we can all agree that the best analysts are based in Toronto.
- CubanBuffet

this,
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 3 @ 4:53 PM ET
NOPE....... Nick Kypreos and Pj Stock are Far Superior.
- classic321

Howie Meeker!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 3 @ 4:57 PM ET
For those in the pool, please check out the message board.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Nov 3 @ 4:58 PM ET
The league really has to figure out where it stands on hitting and high hits around the head and blind side hits.

They are worrying too much about intent. I don't want to take hitting out of hockey but players and the league have to agree on the purpose of hitting and go from there. Trying to demolish guys is nice for the highlight package but not good for the health of players.

The league has to rethink late hits - and what it means to finish checks.

There is change coming, hope they don't mess up the game.

- hillbillydeluxe

I believe the changes will happen and the league will revise the rules to make the game safer yet still keep some of the original values of the game. What wont change is the spin the wheel suspensions. Look at Burros suspension and tell me if it was against Edm or Cal the suspension would still have been 3 games? I would wager it would have been 1 game suspension. It infuriates the fans players media and creates the hype and rivalry. Better story to sell. How many of us were up in arms about the suspension that Keith got for the flying elbow and were really looking forward to playing Chicago again. This method of creating the rivalries at the expense of player safety will not end well. Some meathead one day with Marty McSorley someone in retaliation and by then it would be too late.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Nov 3 @ 5:07 PM ET
I'm not against trading Matthias or moving him to wing and trading Hansen if Horvat is sticking around for the full season.
- Nucker101


I'd like to see what Vey can do playing wing with Bonino and Higgins. Keep the Matthias, Richardson, Kassian line together, and have Dorsett, Horvat and Hansen playing on the forth line.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Nov 3 @ 5:11 PM ET
I'd like to see what Vey can do playing wing with Bonino and Higgins. Keep the Matthias, Richardson, Kassian line together, and have Dorsett, Horvat and Hansen playing on the forth line.
- PetrolSexual

I like the sound of that
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Nov 3 @ 5:11 PM ET
Nope Glen Healy because he played hockey and knows that goalies playing back to back games have no correlation to losses.
- Linden_4_Capt


Damian Cox and George Strombohippopotamus can be thrown in with those clowns as well...
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 3 @ 5:13 PM ET
I'd like to see what Vey can do playing wing with Bonino and Higgins. Keep the Matthias, Richardson, Kassian line together, and have Dorsett, Horvat and Hansen playing on the forth line.
- PetrolSexual




Too bad it would only be for 1 game until Burrows is back.

To be honest, I am hoping we are sellers at tdl, even if we are still in the race, and see a Jensen, Bonino, Vey line. Not sure about grit and playing in the dirty areas but it could be interesting. (not Tuesday yet )
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Nov 3 @ 5:14 PM ET
Howie Meeker!
- VanHockeyGuy

SUPER!!!
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Nov 3 @ 5:16 PM ET


Too bad it would only be for 1 game until Burrows is back.

To be honest, I am hoping we are sellers at tdl, even if we are still in the race, and see a Jensen, Bonino, Vey line. Not sure about grit and playing in the dirty areas but it could be interesting. (not Tuesday yet )

- hillbillydeluxe

I would be okay with being sellers if we got top shelf market value for whoever we were selling. Hoping that young guys will be ready next year probably isn't the wisest way to go about things. If someone is definitely ready though then I think it is much more likely Benning will make some room if the price is right
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 3 @ 5:25 PM ET
I believe the changes will happen and the league will revise the rules to make the game safer yet still keep some of the original values of the game. What wont change is the spin the wheel suspensions. Look at Burros suspension and tell me if it was against Edm or Cal the suspension would still have been 3 games? I would wager it would have been 1 game suspension. It infuriates the fans players media and creates the hype and rivalry. Better story to sell. How many of us were up in arms about the suspension that Keith got for the flying elbow and were really looking forward to playing Chicago again. This method of creating the rivalries at the expense of player safety will not end well. Some meathead one day with Marty McSorley someone in retaliation and by then it would be too late.
- Linden_4_Capt


So much splitting hairs and a sense that one thing is worse than another.

It has to come to a point where there is some sort of formula that is used to determine the penalty.

I kind of feel the Ference hit was more premeditated than the Burrows hit, but it is just hard to quantify or compare. But having past suspensions seemed to have no bearing on the suspension. And why should it? Should he know better? Did it happen so quick that he didn't have the time to consider all options? He would take it back if he could? He is not that type of player. Shouldn't look at his past.


There has to be a better way to determine the suspension but at least with the leagues little explanations on many of the suspensions there is some insight into the process.
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