No, there has to be a clear line drawn and no exceptions somewhere. The reason for the inconsistencies you mention are because the calls are all subjective and up to a person. Take the subjectivity out of it, forget trying to figure out if it's a hockey play gone bad or a straight up head shot and you get this out of the game. Make a standardized system of penalties for reviewable offenses and be more like the NFL. To me, any hit above the shoulders is instant suspension, just like any hit below the hips should be a suspension. Accidents happen, but if you make it so that you know you'll be getting suspended even if it's an accident, there will be a lot less accidents.
- DariusKnight

I can agree with this except there still will be an interpretation on what is a 1 game suspension (Hansen) and a 5 game suspension (Keith). I'm pretty sure in Europe any headshot is a immediate game misconduct which is great but there are time when the ref doesn't see it and either kicks out someone who didn't deserve it or let someone who does deserve to be out, stay in the game.

It will help regardless, but I still think it will be subjective.

It might not be the most popular opinion but I think getting ex players/refs/mgmt out of the process would be a start. I don't care what anyone says, anyone who has played or been involved in the league is biased and is going to take their experiences in the game into a decision.

I would rather see someone who has never played hockey ( at least at the NHL level) come in take over the process, I also would support harsher penalties for diving, spearing (or other stick infractions like Lucic's last year) and other unsportsmanlike calls (biting, hair pulling, water bottles etc.). I think most people can understand that a hit can cross the line when you are playing the fastest game on earth and I don't think "respect" is the issue with those hits.

I think "respect for the players" comes in more with the unsportsmanlike poop that could easily be punished more severely, getting that out of the game would make the game safer IMO and the players would respect each other more.
- belcherbd

This is pretty key. I know it is entertaining and controversial as fans but it is absolutely degrading the game. The Lucic spear should have resulted in a suspension. IMO that type of unsportsmanlike conduct is more problematic because it shifts away from simply being an aspect of the game to being criminal action. There is no rule in hockey regarding intentional spearing of a man's genitals, but there are plenty of rules regarding bodychecks and even fighting. You go up to a guy in the street with a hockey stick and slash him in the balls from behind and you are looking at a law suit and possible jail time.
Edit: I also like the idea of having someone outside of hockey leading the charge on revamping Player Safety. Guys like Pronger and Shanahan could work as consultants or advisers but for them to have autonomy is scary

Wanna get everyone's opinions on bring back the veto rule, so I can decide what to do myself...
- Nucker101

The only reason I liked the veto rule was it announced a trade to the whole pool upon completion of the transaction. Kinda like Twitter for the pool...

LOL at the cry-fest on the Yahoo fantasy board. It's a free league of fantasy hockey. How heated can people get?

LOL at the cry-fest on the Yahoo fantasy board. It's a free league of fantasy hockey. How heated can people get?
- AlexF

Drama again this year.

LOL at the cry-fest on the Yahoo fantasy board. It's a free league of fantasy hockey. How heated can people get?
- AlexF

3 managers out of 18 p!ssing and moaning

This is pretty key. I know it is entertaining and controversial as fans but it is absolutely degrading the game. The Lucic spear should have resulted in a suspension. IMO that type of unsportsmanlike conduct is more problematic because it shifts away from simply being an aspect of the game to being criminal action. There is no rule in hockey regarding intentional spearing of a man's genitals, but there are plenty of rules regarding bodychecks and even fighting. You go up to a guy in the street with a hockey stick and slash him in the balls from behind and you are looking at a law suit and possible jail time.
Edit: I also like the idea of having someone outside of hockey leading the charge on revamping Player Safety. Guys like Pronger and Shanahan could work as consultants or advisers but for them to have autonomy is scary
- bezz44

Ideally, it would be an /INDEPENDENT/ body made up of ex-players, refs, coaches and management. Everyone's interests would be represented and decisions would be balanced and fair. But again, there needs to be a standardized system of discipline with aggravating factors taken into account lengthening the discipline.

3 managers out of 18 p!ssing and moaning
- PetrolSexual

That's all it takes to get the drama going again this year.

That's all it takes to get the drama going again this year.
- Nucker101

Why worry about the veto anymore, you already have everybody...

Ideally, it would be an /INDEPENDENT/ body made up of ex-players, refs, coaches and management. Everyone's interests would be represented and decisions would be balanced and fair. But again, there needs to be a standardized system of discipline with aggravating factors taken into account lengthening the discipline.
- DariusKnight

And none of the execs would be under contract for the Flyers

Why worry about the veto anymore, you already have everybody...
- PetrolSexual

I'd like to see Miller get a few of Lack's starts!

Why worry about the veto anymore, you already have everybody...
- PetrolSexual

IMO this plays into it, if this was Bezz getting a great deal from me there wouldn't be nearly as much of an uproar.....people can deny it all they want but jealousy is playing into it.

It's not like I cheated, everyone can send out offers and try to negotiate deals. And besides, my lack of depth is being exposed as I'm definitely not running the table.

If my team being stacked is taking the fun out of it for others I'd suggest bringing back the veto and dissolving my team next year.

I don't mind joining a different league.

I'd like to see Miller get a few of Lack's starts!
- allycat

Yeah, they're definitely playing Lack too much....

IMO this plays into it, if this was Bezz getting a great deal from me there wouldn't be nearly as much of an uproar.....people can deny it all they want but jealousy is playing into it.

It's not like I cheated, everyone can send out offers and try to negotiate deals. And besides, my lack of depth is being exposed as I'm definitely not running the table.
- Nucker101

Agreed. Or if I made this trade with Zogg or someone else it would probably not be an issue. At the time of the trade I think I was actually higher than you in the standings
You'd think Brian Elliott is a better goaltender than Carey Price I see him more as a tweener goalie like Fasth or Hiller

IMO this plays into it, if this was Bezz getting a great deal from me there wouldn't be nearly as much of an uproar.....people can deny it all they want but jealousy is playing into it.

It's not like I cheated, everyone can send out offers and try to negotiate deals. And besides, my lack of depth is being exposed as I'm definitely not running the table.

If my team being stacked is taking the fun out of it for others I'd suggest bringing back the veto and dissolving my team next year.

I don't mind joining a different league.
- Nucker101

All right, that's it, go to your room until you want to be part of this family the vast majority of us are enjoying the pool. As I said, there are always going to be disagreements (it's actually good to see people being so involved and passionate about their teams/trades etc!

Ideally, it would be an /INDEPENDENT/ body made up of ex-players, refs, coaches and management. Everyone's interests would be represented and decisions would be balanced and fair. But again, there needs to be a standardized system of discipline with aggravating factors taken into account lengthening the discipline.
- DariusKnight

The first "Star" incident with Landeskog elbowing Perry in the face last night. In my mind this was worse than the Volchenkov hit but my guess is Landeskog gets 1 or none.

Volchenkov got 4.


Landeskog gets ????

All right, that's it, go to your room until you want to be part of this family the vast majority of us are enjoying the pool. As I said, there are always going to be disagreements (it's actually good to see people being so involved and passionate about their teams/trades etc!
- Zogg

Hey, I'd making the ultimate sacrifice for you guys! Giving up a great team and watching them get picked apart and separated during the draft next year for the "better" of the league.

I'll start a rival league.

Agreed. Or if I made this trade with Zogg or someone else it would probably not be an issue. At the time of the trade I think I was actually higher than you in the standings
You'd think Brian Elliott is a better goaltender than Carey Price I see him more as a tweener goalie like Fasth or Hiller
- bezz44

I feel whatever Bezz's strategy is (within reason), he should be able to follow through with that. As long as it's not a completely insane transaction (i.e. Stamkos for Sestito) then these somewhat 'borderline' type of trades should be allowed. Again, it would become a slippery slope if every single transaction had to be decided on.

Agreed. Or if I made this trade with Zogg or someone else it would probably not be an issue. At the time of the trade I think I was actually higher than you in the standings
You'd think Brian Elliott is a better goaltender than Carey Price I see him more as a tweener goalie like Fasth or Hiller
- bezz44

I can't believe that there has been an entire thread because somebody decides to be a whiny female dog.

Hey, I'd making the ultimate sacrifice for you guys! Giving up a great team and watching them get picked apart and separated during the draft next year for the "better" of the league.

I'll start a rival league.
- Nucker101

now, don't be startin' up that nonsense talk, ya heeah?

I can't believe that there has been an entire thread because somebody decides to be a whiny female dog.
- lumlums

Have you been living under a rock? This is hockey buzz we can whine 20 pages if someone farts.

I can't believe that there has been an entire thread because somebody decides to be a whiny female dog.
- lumlums

Yeah it's a shame that we don't have a UG

I can't believe that there has been an entire thread because somebody decides to be a whiny female dog.
- lumlums

It's pathetic. The league is free. I think we're all old enough to appreciate that this is kid fun hobby. At least I thought we were.

It's pathetic. The league is free. I think we're all old enough to appreciate that this is kid fun hobby. At least I thought we were.
- AlexF

That's why I didn't join originally, how can you have an enjoyable hockey pool with people you don't know or ever met.