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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 5 @ 10:13 AM ET
V and G with 100 each
- vejim


I'm banking on 60 from Raffl
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 5 @ 10:14 AM ET
I think the complaints are more about why the former GM felt the need to pay big money and lots of years to certain guys when they can get similar defensive play or better from less expensive options on the market.
- PhillySportsGuy

the bike rider just liked to spend Eddie's money
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 5 @ 10:15 AM ET
Not to start a fight, but are you not counting Timonen/Pronger because they were more well-rounded than Joni? I'd say they're just as good, if not better.
- jmatchett383

I think he's referring to a guy being able to jump up into the play. Timonen and Pronger could pass the puck and trigger a break, but they didn't skate like Del Zotto. In no way am I saying Del Zotto is even close to as good as the other two.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 5 @ 10:15 AM ET
I'm banking on 60 from Raffl
- jmatchett383

60 goals and 5 assists
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 5 @ 10:16 AM ET
I think he's referring to a guy being able to jump up into the play. Timonen and Pronger could pass the puck and trigger a break, but they didn't skate like Del Zotto. In no way am I saying Del Zotto is even close to as good as the other two.
- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah, MDZ can pretty much be a one-man breakout, like Ministick.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 5 @ 10:16 AM ET
I think he's referring to a guy being able to jump up into the play. Timonen and Pronger could pass the puck and trigger a break, but they didn't skate like Del Zotto. In no way am I saying Del Zotto is even close to as good as the other two.
- PhillySportsGuy

#2 was pretty good
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Nov 5 @ 10:18 AM ET
What order will the top 5 goal scorers be at the end of the season?

Current standings:
Perry
Nash
Taransenko
Kunitz
Stamkos

My guess:
Perry
Ovechkin
Stamkos
Seguin
Kessel
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 5 @ 10:18 AM ET
#2 was pretty good
- vejim


Derian Hatcher?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 10:19 AM ET
I think the complaints are more about why the former GM felt the need to pay big money and lots of years to certain guys when they can get similar defensive play or better from less expensive options on the market.
- PhillySportsGuy


Probably because there wasn't less expensive options available at the time.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 5 @ 10:19 AM ET
What order will the top 5 goal scorers be at the end of the season?

Current standings:
Perry
Nash
Taransenko
Kunitz
Stamkos

My guess:
Perry
Ovechkin
Stamkos
Seguin
Kessel

- Streit2ThePoint


(frank) Corey Perry
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Nov 5 @ 10:19 AM ET
What order will the top 5 goal scorers be at the end of the season?

Current standings:
Perry
Nash
Taransenko
Kunitz
Stamkos

My guess:
Perry
Ovechkin
Stamkos
Seguin
Kessel

- Streit2ThePoint


I think Crosby might be up there in the high 30s low 40s. Maybe Kessel finally breaks 40?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 5 @ 10:20 AM ET
MDZ will make some mistakes, like his telegraphed pass to Giroux last night that resulted in an odd man rush going back the other way, but it seems like he's trying his best out there on every shift.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 5 @ 10:20 AM ET
With all the complaints of how much they have spent on the dmen, gotta love the bang they are getting for their bucks so far on Schultz and MDZ. Really hoping MDZ isn't fools gold and he is finding his game again.

and what can be said about Jake....the kid is really breaking out. If he keeps this up it he is going to cost them a pretty penny to keep him here

- nastyflyergirl


Didn't realize Jake was a UFA after next season. Yup, he's going to cost a fortune. He's earning it though. He's been incredible.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 5 @ 10:20 AM ET
Nothing on CapGeek yet, so...
- tangent_man


Wheww! Bullet dodged.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Nov 5 @ 10:21 AM ET
Derian Hatcher?
- jmatchett383


I was thinking 'The Count'.


tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Nov 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
Wheww! Bullet dodged.
- PLindbergh31




Thanks for acknowledging the obvious troll attempt.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
They haven't had this good of a pure transition dman since Pitkanen... dude is masterful pushing play up the ice.
- Tomahawk



That's somewhat of an exaggeration. Del Zotto is playing very well, and adds an element to the Flyers defense that they really need. But defenseman like Doughty and Keithy are masterful at controlling and pushing play. I wouldn't put Del Zotto in that class.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 5 @ 10:24 AM ET


Thanks for acknowledging the obvious troll attempt.

- tangent_man




Is there any chance Raffl can just have a bruise and be day to day? I'm guessing of course there can't.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 5 @ 10:24 AM ET
But somehow had the best Corsi numbers of any of them
- Feanor


Interesting. He looked like he was a step behind the play for much of the night. Lecavalier seemed to have some jump.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 5 @ 10:24 AM ET
Didn't realize Jake was a UFA after next season. Yup, he's going to cost a fortune. He's earning it though. He's been incredible.
- PLindbergh31


May be pushing $6.5M - $7M. But the Flyers should do whatever they have to do to keep him, whether it be trading one or more of the veteran D or a forward like Read or Umberger.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Nov 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
With all the complaints of how much they have spent on the dmen, gotta love the bang they are getting for their bucks so far on Schultz and MDZ. Really hoping MDZ isn't fools gold and he is finding his game again.

and what can be said about Jake....the kid is really breaking out. If he keeps this up it he is going to cost them a pretty penny to keep him here

- nastyflyergirl



i'm scared of having to re-up jake schenn couturier coburn and raffl all at once
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 5 @ 10:25 AM ET


Is there any chance Raffl can just have a bruise and be day to day? I'm guessing of course there can't.

- PLindbergh31


Yes, he'll be diagnosed with a bruise, day-to-day. Then he'll miss 3 games. Then he'll be out 4-6 weeks.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
That's somewhat of an exaggeration. Del Zotto is playing very well, and adds an element to the Flyers defense that they really need. But defenseman like Doughty and Keithy are masterful at controlling and pushing play. I wouldn't put Del Zotto in that class.
- MJL


Keithy is super-masterful on the masterful scale, bro.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
Interesting. He looked like he was a step behind the play for much of the night. Lecavalier seemed to have some jump.
- Jsaquella



To be fair, even if you want to use Corsi, other then the top line, there were so few Corsi events for the other lines to show anything of significance.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
Keithy is super-masterful on the masterful scale, bro.
- Tomahawk



Is Doughty super-duper-masterful?
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