That's only 3 lines. Curious as to why you omitted a line? Rhetorical, I already know why.
- MJL

There is one that I personally like, but not sure everybody does: 10/14/24

Pierre McGuire was an f'n NHL coach.
- hereticpride

A Stanley Cup winning Assistant coach. And an NHL scout for a number of teams. Hired by Scotty Bowman as a special assignment scout, and later an assistant NHL coach. Assistant Coach and later an Assistant GM with Hartford.

There is one that I personally like, but not sure everybody does: 10/14/24
- Tomahawk

I like 10/14/24.

Why would they want 3.5M of dead cap space?
- MJL

Because Leier on the Flyers at 4.25 could very well be a better option for the organization than Umberger on the Flyers at 4.6 if they dont think Umberger fits into their NHL lineup next year. You can sign a UFA that is bringing what Umberger is bringing for under a million

Having Umberger is basically like having 3.5 million of dead cap space right now

Berube's (frank)ing brain dead... VDV on the top-line full-time. Kill me now.
- Tomahawk

incredible

I'm not too concerned about Umberger over the remainder of that deal. Over the next two years Ghost, Morin and maybe Hagg will be coming in and replacing guys at a fraction of the current cost of some of our D men. MDZ should be pretty decently priced as a RFA too.

Dios mio, man. Me and Liam gonna (frank) you up

Because Leier on the Flyers at 4.25 could very well be a better option for the organization than Umberger on the Flyers at 4.6 if they dont think Umberger fits into their NHL lineup next year. You can sign a UFA that is bringing what Umberger is bringing for under a million.
- Just5

They're not going to bury Umberger and keep 3.5M of dead cap space. They'll try and trade him or buy him out. But they won't do that.

The season is not 15 games old.

What has Blair Jones done to be put back in the lineup over Akeson? He's worked so hard and competed so hard he found himself on waivers.
- PLindbergh31

it makes ZERO sense
why waive jones and keep akeson if you'd rather play jones than ak

Dios mio, man. Me and Liam gonna (frank) you up
- KINGKENZO

I'm not too concerned about Umberger over the remainder of that deal. Over the next two years Ghost, Morin and maybe Hagg will be coming in and replacing guys at a fraction of the current cost of some of our D men. MDZ should be pretty decently priced as a RFA too.
- hereticpride

If Del Zotto keeps playing well and improving at the rate he is, he isn't going to be that cheap.

The Devil you know vs the unseen nightmare
- Jsaquella

I think that's what we're seeing. The salary cap era has definitely had some unforeseen consequences -- teams have traditionally valued young players on ELCs just because it's common sense, but pre-cap era and even early cap era, you'd still see young players move and maybe a bad contract for bad contract scenario

Remember when a still-young Daigle or Pronger could get moved? Or an in-prime Teemu Selanne for damn near pennies on the dollar? Or Keith Tkachuk?

It's just not like that anymore. Teams hold onto assets for as long as they can, and they hold onto them for dear life.

For example: There's no good reason that Keith Yandle is still in Phoenix. They have a legit stud in Ekman-Larsson, significant needs in their forward corps, and have a bunch of talented defense prospects.

In the old days, Yandle would've been flipped for a foward and pick or prospect. It would've happened two years ago, at least. Maybe three.

But in today's NHL, that move doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen like it should.

I like 10/14/24.
- MJL

Guess we can be friends then.

Dios mio, man. Me and Liam gonna (frank) you up
- KINGKENZO

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

- hereticpride

That is GLORIOUS

- hereticpride

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I want this for my screen saver

If Del Zotto keeps playing well and improving at the rate he is, he isn't going to be that cheap.
- MJL

Cheaper than AMac.

Because Leier on the Flyers at 4.25 could very well be a better option for the organization than Umberger on the Flyers at 4.6 if they dont think Umberger fits into their NHL lineup next year. You can sign a UFA that is bringing what Umberger is bringing for under a million

Having Umberger is basically like having 3.5 million of dead cap space right now
- Just5

Might not have to wait until next year to bury Umberger. Brian Campbell is in town tomorrow night!

it makes ZERO sense
why waive jones and keep akeson if you'd rather play jones than ak
- -davies-

They waived Jones because they were more confident that he would clear. I think it says a lot about Akeson and how he's played and practiced, that even though they have a scoring line spot open, they decided to play Vandevelde there and put Jones in the lineup, and still scratch Akeson.

it makes ZERO sense
why waive jones and keep akeson if you'd rather play jones than ak
- -davies-

Berube logic.

Coach face punch

Cheaper than AMac.
- hereticpride

Hopefully. One small difference is that Del Zotto will still be an RFA after this year, so that limits his leverage. But his next deal if it is a multi year deal, will eat into his UFA years, so that will raise the cost.

I think that's what we're seeing. The salary cap era has definitely had some unforeseen consequences -- teams have traditionally valued young players on ELCs just because it's common sense, but pre-cap era and even early cap era, you'd still see young players move and maybe a bad contract for bad contract scenario

Remember when a still-young Daigle or Pronger could get moved? Or an in-prime Teemu Selanne for damn near pennies on the dollar? Or Keith Tkachuk?

It's just not like that anymore. Teams hold onto assets for as long as they can, and they hold onto them for dear life.

For example: There's no good reason that Keith Yandle is still in Phoenix. They have a legit stud in Ekman-Larsson, significant needs in their forward corps, and have a bunch of talented defense prospects.

In the old days, Yandle would've been flipped for a foward and pick or prospect. It would've happened two years ago, at least. Maybe three.

But in today's NHL, that move doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen like it should.
- AllInForFlyers

Part of it is a lot of GM's don't want to trade a guy who provides good value on a contract. Some GM's overvalue their own guys. There's a million reasons that the trade market gets stagnant. The cap doesn't help.

There is one that I personally like, but not sure everybody does: 10/14/24
- Tomahawk

Huh. You do? I need to see a bit more. Didn't love it against Florida, and I haven't watched the Edmonton game yet. Did it work last night (though, against the competition, I'd still say that the jury's out, whichever way they looked)?

it makes ZERO sense
why waive jones and keep akeson if you'd rather play jones than ak
- -davies-

Seems like the GM and Coach have differing opinions on the player. The GM doesnt want to expose him to waivers

I think that's what we're seeing. The salary cap era has definitely had some unforeseen consequences -- teams have traditionally valued young players on ELCs just because it's common sense, but pre-cap era and even early cap era, you'd still see young players move and maybe a bad contract for bad contract scenario

Remember when a still-young Daigle or Pronger could get moved? Or an in-prime Teemu Selanne for damn near pennies on the dollar? Or Keith Tkachuk?

It's just not like that anymore. Teams hold onto assets for as long as they can, and they hold onto them for dear life.

For example: There's no good reason that Keith Yandle is still in Phoenix. They have a legit stud in Ekman-Larsson, significant needs in their forward corps, and have a bunch of talented defense prospects.

In the old days, Yandle would've been flipped for a foward and pick or prospect. It would've happened two years ago, at least. Maybe three.

But in today's NHL, that move doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen like it should.
- AllInForFlyers

Yandle hasn't moved because I doubt Phoenix has really been trying to move him. Defenseman are at a premium, they may have been listening, but in order to be willing to trade him they want a kings ransom in return. Which is the only way they should be willing to trade him.