Huh. You do? I need to see a bit more. Didn't love it against Florida, and I haven't watched the Edmonton game yet. Did it work last night (though, against the competition, I'd still say that the jury's out, whichever way they looked)?
- AllInForFlyers

The line looked good last night.

But its the freaking oilers minus Hall

AK had a really good game tonight. Only 1 goal, but he was all over the place. Must have had 5 real good scoring chances.

Huh. You do? I need to see a bit more. Didn't love it against Florida, and I haven't watched the Edmonton game yet. Did it work last night (though, against the competition, I'd still say that the jury's out, whichever way they looked)?
- AllInForFlyers

I wasn't that great. I noticed more than a few times, Giroux was out with Read and Couturier for D-zone draws, instead of Schenn.

Last night was a hard game to really judge, Flyers were up 2-0 in the first, and 3-0 before it was half over. At that point they're not really pressing to score.

The line looked good last night.

But its the freaking oilers minus Hall
- Just5

Understood. Was too busy to go through last night's game thread, don't even know who scored last night. Was just glad they won

I wasn't that great. I noticed more than a few times, Giroux was out with Read and Couturier for D-zone draws, instead of Schenn.

Last night was a hard game to really judge, Flyers were up 2-0 in the first, and 3-0 before it was half over. At that point they're not really pressing to score.
- Jsaquella

Glad they at least put them away early, from what it sounds like, instead of letting that turn into something harder than it needed to be

Glad they at least put them away early, from what it sounds like, instead of letting that turn into something harder than it needed to be
- AllInForFlyers

They gave Edmonton chances in the third, kind of tried to sit on the 4-1 lead. mason had to be really sharp-and have a couple of posts-to keep it well in hand.

I wasn't that great. I noticed more than a few times, Giroux was out with Read and Couturier for D-zone draws, instead of Schenn.

Last night was a hard game to really judge, Flyers were up 2-0 in the first, and 3-0 before it was half over. At that point they're not really pressing to score.
- Jsaquella

That's because Giroux was absolutely smoking hot on draws last night.

Basically, you only make the deal if you feel Josi is the difference between mediocrity and contention. I just don't think he is.

I would much rather look for a more polished defenseman and pay a premium

Edit: This is assuming Josi is going to cost a pick, prospect and player
- PhillySportsGuy

i think that a josi type is the best kind that will feasibly be acquired. say the haul required to get him is brayden schenn, robert hagg, and a second.

i think that exchange makes the flyers better overall. even if it doesnt take them straight from mediocrity to contention, it is a hell of a step down the path to me.

i think that a josi type is the best kind that will feasibly be acquired. say the haul required to get him is brayden schenn, robert hagg, and a second.

i think that exchange makes the flyers better overall. even if it doesnt take them straight from mediocrity to contention, it is a hell of a step down the path to me.
- stayinthefnnet

I'd have to think real hard about that deal.

i think that a josi type is the best kind that will feasibly be acquired. say the haul required to get him is brayden schenn, robert hagg, and a second.

i think that exchange makes the flyers better overall. even if it doesnt take them straight from mediocrity to contention, it is a hell of a step down the path to me.
- stayinthefnnet

Done deal if its up to me

Damn looks like the phantoms blew it again tonight

I'd have to think real hard about that deal.
- MJL

i think the majority of good hockey deals really do make you think hard though. typically stings as much as it excites.

like when someone threw out read for kapanen.

i know its been rehashed, but im killing time. if not josi, since thats the name i always throw out. who else is in that tier that would be worth throwing out a pretty significant package for?

i still think guys like doughty, weber, karlsson, pietrangelo, ect. are all pretty much impossible. but that next tier of youngish guys. josi, shattenkirk, faulk maybe? may be difficult because carolina is rebuilding and hes young, but you never know. more just that type.

Huh. You do? I need to see a bit more. Didn't love it against Florida, and I haven't watched the Edmonton game yet. Did it work last night (though, against the competition, I'd still say that the jury's out, whichever way they looked)?
- AllInForFlyers

Didn't watch the game? You missed out on some righteous Schenn to Schenn action.

Didn't watch the game? You missed out on some righteous Schenn to Schenn action.
- Tomahawk

That was a fantastic play by baby Schenn to fat Schenn

Didn't watch the game? You missed out on some righteous Schenn to Schenn action.
- Tomahawk

Yeah -- I was busy last night, all day today. Maybe I should take a minute and look at some highlights, at least

i think the majority of good hockey deals really do make you think hard though. typically stings as much as it excites.

like when someone threw out read for kapanen.

i know its been rehashed, but im killing time. if not josi, since thats the name i always throw out. who else is in that tier that would be worth throwing out a pretty significant package for?

i still think guys like doughty, weber, karlsson, pietrangelo, ect. are all pretty much impossible. but that next tier of youngish guys. josi, shattenkirk, faulk maybe? may be difficult because carolina is rebuilding and hes young, but you never know. more just that type.
- stayinthefnnet

I think you're right about those guys. Even that lower tier is hard to pry away from a team.

I think you're right about those guys. Even that lower tier is hard to pry away from a team.
- MJL

definitely. as was just said above, its damn near impossible to get ANY assets out of someone these days. but young, good defensemen especially. and it just takes so long to develop your own. but the flyers do have a little stockpile of pieces accrued. i understand the hesitancy of parting with them, and the desire to stick to the path and not rush it. but i dont think the type of trade i am talking about is really deviating from that path. im not suggesting clear house for dustin buff or dion phaneuf. but genuinely parting with a good chunk of assets for a young defender 2 or 3 years further along the path than your own prospects, to align more with the ages of your forwards.

i know they wont be shriveled in 4 years time, but in modern sports its all about maximizing your window.

Playing him in 8 NHL games, is giving him a fair shake. He also has opportunities in every practice, to show the coach that he deserves to play. He obviously has not made that impression in the opportunities he has been given.
- MJL

In what world is 8 games a fair shake?

EDIT: Glad that after only 8 games and practice, he's been determined to be a replacement player. If 8 games is a fair shake I wonder how many players throughout sports that were stars would never have made it.

Dejan Kovacevic, making Sam Carchidi seem like Bob McKenzie

http://dkonpittsburghspor...eury-extension-born-fury/

The average annual value of the contract is $5.75 million, which represents only a $750,000 raise at age 29 with, theoretically, his peak years ahead through the 2018-19 season. That’s both cap-friendly and, actually, will have him badly underpaid even if all he does is maintain status quo: Henrik Lundqvist is making $11 million, Tuukka Rask $7.5 million, Pekka Rinne and Jonathan Quick $7 million each, and the only one of those I’d be sure to pick over Fleury, if I’m being candid, is Quick

"Do not touch him right now, or you will get burned!!"

I'm sorry, folks, but I do love JJ. I just do

Dejan Kovacevic, making Sam Carchidi seem like Bob McKenzie

http://dkonpittsburghspor...eury-extension-born-fury/

The average annual value of the contract is $5.75 million, which represents only a $750,000 raise at age 29 with, theoretically, his peak years ahead through the 2018-19 season. That’s both cap-friendly and, actually, will have him badly underpaid even if all he does is maintain status quo: Henrik Lundqvist is making $11 million, Tuukka Rask $7.5 million, Pekka Rinne and Jonathan Quick $7 million each, and the only one of those I’d be sure to pick over Fleury, if I’m being candid, is Quick
- Jsaquella

i seriously want to know how these people get these jobs. i will gladly drop out of law school tomorrow and cover a random team picked out of a hat if someone would pay me well enough to not starve

Dejan Kovacevic, making Sam Carchidi seem like Bob McKenzie

http://dkonpittsburghspor...eury-extension-born-fury/

The average annual value of the contract is $5.75 million, which represents only a $750,000 raise at age 29 with, theoretically, his peak years ahead through the 2018-19 season. That’s both cap-friendly and, actually, will have him badly underpaid even if all he does is maintain status quo: Henrik Lundqvist is making $11 million, Tuukka Rask $7.5 million, Pekka Rinne and Jonathan Quick $7 million each, and the only one of those I’d be sure to pick over Fleury, if I’m being candid, is Quick
- Jsaquella

Uhhh, hmmm. Wow.

Dejan Kovacevic, making Sam Carchidi seem like Bob McKenzie

http://dkonpittsburghspor...eury-extension-born-fury/

The average annual value of the contract is $5.75 million, which represents only a $750,000 raise at age 29 with, theoretically, his peak years ahead through the 2018-19 season. That’s both cap-friendly and, actually, will have him badly underpaid even if all he does is maintain status quo: Henrik Lundqvist is making $11 million, Tuukka Rask $7.5 million, Pekka Rinne and Jonathan Quick $7 million each, and the only one of those I’d be sure to pick over Fleury, if I’m being candid, is Quick
- Jsaquella

Well, that's...an opinion...an interesting one...yeah.

How he got there, God only knows, but Jim Rutherford, MAF and the Pens should send him a bouquet for being onside with that one

Damn looks like the phantoms blew it again tonight
- Just5

A Ghost post in the final seconds. Would have tied the game

A Ghost post in the final seconds. Would have tied the game
- PhillySportsGuy

Are the forwards having trouble scoring? If they are -- and it was said earlier -- they might as well try to get Akeson down there and playing. If he's not in the lineup with Raffl out, you might as well try to get him down and playing somewhere he could help