Something he didn't do yesterday at all. Although, some of his throws were way off yesterday.
- buffalofan19

This is what we all criticized EJ for. Errant throws, dump off passes, Watkins not being involved.

Bryce Brown led us in receiving.

Overall, they better have a plan. Whether it's trading one of our players to hopefully get an additional 2nd or 3rd rounder or whatever, they need to get a new QB

This is what we all criticized EJ for. Errant throws, dump off passes, Watkins not being involved.

Bryce Brown led us in receiving.

Overall, they better have a plan. Whether it's trading one of our players to hopefully get an additional 2nd or 3rd rounder or whatever, they need to get a new QB
- sbroads24

Unfortunately it seems talent evaluators think this drafts qbs so so at best.

Unfortunately it seems talent evaluators think this drafts qbs so so at best.
- zdp1189

I hear the guy from Oregon (Mariota?) is supposed to be pretty good, any chance the bills could trade back into the 1st round?

This is what we all criticized EJ for. Errant throws, dump off passes, Watkins not being involved.

Bryce Brown led us in receiving.

Overall, they better have a plan. Whether it's trading one of our players to hopefully get an additional 2nd or 3rd rounder or whatever, they need to get a new QB
- sbroads24

Sammy was definitely not his normal self. Still injured obviously.

Ask all the guys catching the ball who they want throwing to them. Zero will say EJ.

I hear the guy from Oregon (Mariota?) is supposed to be pretty good, any chance the bills could trade back into the 1st round?
- Sabresfan-365

He's likely the top qb. Wed have to get up into the top 3. I dont think we got the assets.

Sammy was definitely not his normal self. Still injured obviously.

Ask all the guys catching the ball who they want throwing to them. Zero will say EJ.
- Smittyx36

His point isn't that Manuel should be in there. His point is that Orton isn't good enough either, and he's right. This team still doesn't have a long term capable starting quarterback.

For those with concerns, HBSL has been fixed, reflecting the missing games from this past week.

His point isn't that Manuel should be in there. His point is that Orton isn't good enough either, and he's right. This team still doesn't have a long term capable starting quarterback.
- buffalofan19

If Brown does not fumble that ball its 17-3. Game over.
Not a huge Orton guy and he is not the long term answer. But its all on Brown.
Orton was ok yesterday. Thought he was better than Smith

If Brown does not fumble that ball its 17-3. Game over.
Not a huge Orton guy and he is not the long term answer. But its all on Brown.
Orton was ok yesterday. Thought he was better than Smith
- hafgod

You could say the same thing about Chandler. The ball came right to him with nobody around him.

For those with concerns, HBSL has been fixed, reflecting the missing games from this past week.
- stashu

So now I lost by 20

jerk

You could say the same thing about Chandler. The ball came right to him with nobody around him.
- buffalofan19

No he never expected the ball to be there. He tried.
Brown has to protect the ball there. he had a lane. Whatever. Its groundhog day

You could say the same thing about Chandler. The ball came right to him with nobody around him.
- buffalofan19

Another blunder was on the Charles TD. They were not ready and failed to call a TO. Kansas City called a timeout on our 4th and 1 and it ended up a false start

If Brown does not fumble that ball its 17-3. Game over.
Not a huge Orton guy and he is not the long term answer. But its all on Brown.
Orton was ok yesterday. Thought he was better than Smith
- hafgod

Like many Bills losses it was a collective effort

They were outcoached and made some brutal mistakes. A team like Denver or even New England could recover from those based on their QB. We can't. That's why ultimately it doesn't matter how much better Orton is than EJ, we need better than both

Like many Bills losses it was a collective effort

They were outcoached and made some brutal mistakes. A team like Denver or even New England could recover from those based on their QB. We can't. That's why ultimately it doesn't matter how much better Orton is than EJ, we need better than both
- sbroads24[/quote
Its a far few that have those quarterbacks. 80% of the NFL is chasing them

No he never expected the ball to be there. He tried.
Brown has to protect the ball there. he had a lane. Whatever. Its groundhog day
- hafgod

That's the difference between a good team and a bad or mediocre one. The good team makes that play.

[quote=sbroads24]Like many Bills losses it was a collective effort

They were outcoached and made some brutal mistakes. A team like Denver or even New England could recover from those based on their QB. We can't. That's why ultimately it doesn't matter how much better Orton is than EJ, we need better than both
- hafgod[/quote
Its a far few that have those quarterbacks. 80% of the NFL is chasing them

Brady
Manning
Brees
Rodgers
Luck
Romo
Eli Manning
Stafford
Kaepernick
Wilson
Roethlisberger
Flacco
Palmer (is hurt now)
Cutler
Tannehill
Ryan
Newton

That's 17 teams with QB's that are better than Orton

Also I left Dalton, and Alex Smith off who could be better any given day. Brian Hoyer has led his team to a 6-3 start.

That's potentially 20 teams with a better QB situation. We need better

Glad to see I didn't miss anything while I was on vacation.

Glad to see I didn't miss anything while I was on vacation.
- HonkFortheGoose

Why were you on vacation? You don't even have a big girl job.

Glad to see I didn't miss anything while I was on vacation.
- HonkFortheGoose

Didn't even realize you were gone.......

Brady
Manning
Brees
Rodgers
Luck
Romo
Eli Manning
Stafford
Kaepernick
Wilson
Roethlisberger
Flacco
Palmer (is hurt now)
Cutler
Tannehill
Ryan
Newton

That's 17 teams with QB's that are better than Orton

Also I left Dalton, and Alex Smith off who could be better any given day. Brian Hoyer has led his team to a 6-3 start.

That's potentially 20 teams with a better QB situation. We need better
- sbroads24

Sometimes I disagree on that one..

Why were you on vacation? You don't even have a big girl job.
- buffalofan19

I don't??

Didn't even realize you were gone.......
- dadeadhead

Harsh.