Why does everyone want to trade Coburn so badly?
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't. I am hopeful they find some way to extend him, TBH

Why does everyone want to trade Coburn so badly?
- PhillySportsGuy

Short sighted thinking

I don't. I am hopeful they find some way to extend him, TBH
- AllInForFlyers

What would the cap penalties be to waive him to send him to the phantoms?
- consigrn

All but $925K of his cap hit would still count.

And Hextall doesn't want to bring up Laughton, so if you demote Umberger you would just be adding another AHL-quality player like Jones in to the line upwhen we already have Akeson, Rinaldo and VdV in the top 12 with Raffl out.

I don't. I am hopeful they find some way to extend him, TBH
- AllInForFlyers

Still crazy to think we traded the Thrashers Zhitnik for Coburn

All but $925K of his cap hit would still count.

And Hextall doesn't want to bring up Laughton, so if you demote Umberger you would just be adding another AHL-quality player like Jones in to the line upwhen we already have Akeson, Rinaldo and VdV in the top 12 with Raffl out.
- Feanor

Yup, unless they are bringing up Laughton, theres no point in waiving the corpse. Making him a healthy scratch when Raffl comes back is fine with me though

I can't believe all of these injuries on D. Ghost is obviously out as one of our first call ups and if Schenn is out for a bit Carlo C is back in.. hopefully he continues to play well and we don't get any more injuries here.

Still crazy to think we traded the Thrashers Zhitnik for Coburn
- Trainfellow

Probably Holmgren's best deal

Probably Holmgren's best deal
- BiggE

The carter trade is definitely the best.

The carter trade is definitely the best.
- JoeRussomanno

Nah, the best were the Upshall and JVR trades.. lol

Nah, the best were the Upshall and JVR trades.. lol
- Hextall271

No way. The Gagne, and Kubina heists were his best by far.

Matt Walker baby!

No way. The Gagne, and Kubina heists were his best by far.

Matt Walker baby!
- PLindbergh31

Oh gawd walker... almost forgot bout him

Yup, unless they are bringing up Laughton, theres no point in waiving the corpse. Making him a healthy scratch when Raffl comes back is fine with me though
- BiggE

I would play him ahead of VdV.

Simmonds-Giroux-Voracek
BSchenn-Couturier-Read
Raffl-Lecavalier-Akeson/Umberger
Rinaldo-Bellemare-Umberger/Akeson

No way. The Gagne, and Kubina heists were his best by far.

Matt Walker baby!
- PLindbergh31

I don't mind the trade record, really... tough for any GM to come out more than a shade over 50% in the long run there.

Those UFA signings and that cap management, tho...

Here is the report from the 2nd tier affiliate in Reading.

Hextall has done a lousy job with providing goalies
EDIT he hasnt done much for the front end of things either.

Martin Oulette should get a job doing something else, he can be beat over the shoulder and glove hand by a mite and also has weak coverage low at the post. I doubt he could be a bartender since he couldnt get his hands up to shake a martini shaker.

The team is not hitting anything and d zone coverage has been abysmal when opposing players are in motion. That is the coach who is also the gm to an extent.

You ever watch a team and they are skating hard but doing nothing defensively when they have a chance to hit someone along the boards they pass it up EVERY TIME.

Plus the player who had his knee taken out in last years playoffs had the opportunity to run the guy who purposely hurt him and did zilch.

Remember the scene in Slapshot where the old man GM of the Chiefs came in the locker room during the playoff game and called them all "P#####s?

I can tell you their single season splurge in season tickets and attendees as an affiliate will drop quicker than a stock run with automatic computer trading unless they clean this mess up.

At this point the 2014-2015 Reading Royals season tickets are the worst investment I have made in my life for anything. If I dont see improvement, I may just give them to my friends who live in Berks County, rather than spend money on tolls, fuel, parking and concessions.

I don't mind the trade record, really... tough for any GM to come out more than a shade over 50% in the long run there.

Those UFA signings and that cap management, tho...
- Tomahawk

True. I look at all the transactions he made as Flyers GM trades and Free Agent signings and there is a lot of terrible moves. There are some good moves as well.

A lot of it is just not being able to get out of his own way. I understood the concept of dealing from a strength to address a weakness with the JVR trade. JVR's trade value was at an all-time low coming off an injury plagued season. Imagine JVR on the line with Giroux and Voracek right now. It would probably be the top line in the NHL, or close to it.

Another transaction that really bothered me was Lecavalier. Flyers just used a buyout on Briere, and of course Holmgren had to take the new found cap space and invest it in an aging player on the wrong side of 30. Just dumb.

True. I look at all the transactions he made as Flyers GM trades and Free Agent signings and there is a lot of terrible moves. There are some good moves as well.

A lot of it is just not being able to get out of his own way. I understood the concept of dealing from a strength to address a weakness with the JVR trade. JVR's trade value was at an all-time low coming off an injury plagued season. Imagine JVR on the line with Giroux and Voracek right now. It would probably be the top line in the NHL, or close to it.

Another transaction that really bothered me was Lecavalier. Flyers just used a buyout on Briere, and of course Holmgren had to take the new found cap space and invest it in an aging player on the wrong side of 30. Just dumb.
- PLindbergh31

Agree 100%!

"Another transaction that really bothered me was Lecavalier. Flyers just used a buyout on Briere, and of course Holmgren had to take the new found cap space and invest it in an aging player on the wrong side of 30. Just dumb."

Oh yes, 100% with me too.

The last of the Homer idiocy signings. I wonder how much the old man Snider pushed him to get names that were recognizable to sell season tickets. I mean did they really go through the vetting process for any of these signings that year. 50/50 there with Emery and Streit vs Vinny and of course the Bryzaster.

The Flyers had fascination with LeCavalier for years. I have told the story of someone who used to work with the Lightning (who works for another NHL franchise now) told me they had his bag packed for a trade to the Flyers years ago, but the owner of the team nixed it. They have had a really lousy trading history with that team going back to the Gratton fiasco.

Isnt it great to be a GM and waste millions of dollars every years

Another transaction that really bothered me was Lecavalier.
- PLindbergh31

It's too bad they can't play the entire game a man up... Vinny would be pretty good if he didn't have to ever skate 5V5.

It's too bad they can't play the entire game a man up... Vinny would be pretty good if he didn't have to ever skate 5V5.
- Tomahawk

Too much of my time is spent thinking of a ways to get rid of VL and Umberger.

Too much of my time is spent thinking of a ways to get rid of VL and Umberger.
- PLindbergh31

Really hope some GM that doesn't look any deeper than surface numbers sees these raw points he's picking up and takes him off Hexy's hands.

It's too bad they can't play the entire game a man up... Vinny would be pretty good if he didn't have to ever skate 5V5.
- Tomahawk

I have no problem with an offensive/pp specialist but not at that price or contract term.

Really hope some GM that doesn't look any deeper than surface numbers sees these raw points he's picking up and takes him off Hexy's hands.
- Tomahawk

Unfortunately I just don't see it. All these GM's have toadies that look at analytics with a microscope. He's a black hole 5x5 and everyone knows it... Everyone except Berube.

Unfortunately I just don't see it. All these GM's have toadies that look at analytics with a microscope. He's a black hole 5x5 and everyone knows it... Everyone except Berube.
- PLindbergh31

Sadly, the Flyers' toadie doesn't seem to have any pull w/ the coaching staff, lol.

Why does everyone want to trade Coburn so badly?
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't get it either