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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 10 @ 6:02 PM ET
By hook or by crook.
- Jsaquella


Both
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 10 @ 6:04 PM ET

- AllInForFlyers


Love the poop out of that movie
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 10 @ 6:10 PM ET
Intersting read on EKane in the Jets blog today. They're using him heavily in defensive situations and he's apparently really excelling at it. He'd be one of the last wingers I would've guessed that would be able to do that.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 10 @ 6:18 PM ET
Love the poop out of that movie
- Tomahawk

You take yourself out of the game, you start talking about puppy dogs and ice cream and of course it's going to end up on the friendship tip
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 10 @ 6:25 PM ET
You take yourself out of the game, you start talking about puppy dogs and ice cream and of course it's going to end up on the friendship tip
- Jsaquella


"I'm gonna make Gretzky's head bleed for super fan 99 over here."
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 10 @ 6:28 PM ET
I usually try to avoid these pissing matches you guys seem to have on a daily basis. But my opinion is that VLC has looked to be moving well and up on his skates for the games he HAS played so far. He has never been a speedster, but he has hardly looked slow by any metric. But then again, he didn't murder my kittens and sleep with my mother like he seems to have done to some in here.


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 10 @ 6:29 PM ET
"I'm gonna make Gretzky's head bleed for super fan 99 over here."
- Tomahawk



Great movie...
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 10 @ 6:38 PM ET
"I'm gonna make Gretzky's head bleed for super fan 99 over here."
- Tomahawk


swingers
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 10 @ 6:43 PM ET
For us it could be a blessing he spent much of last year hurt, it turned many teams away.
- ob18


He definitely doesn't fit the "typical Russian" stigma.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 10 @ 6:52 PM ET
He definitely doesn't fit the "typical Russian" stigma.
- PhillySportsGuy

You won't know that until someone puts a big wad of cash in his hands.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 10 @ 7:01 PM ET
I usually try to avoid these pissing matches you guys seem to have on a daily basis. But my opinion is that VLC has looked to be moving well and up on his skates for the games he HAS played so far. He has never been a speedster, but he has hardly looked slow by any metric. But then again, he didn't murder my kittens and sleep with my mother like he seems to have done to some in here.
- MBFlyerfan


Why does it have to be that he murdered anybody's kittens?

If you say "he still has a great shot" and "he has great offensive instincts" and "he has great hands," those are all hockey-related skills. Those are my opinions, too, right?

So, if I say I think he's slow, that's a hockey-related skill, too. And an opinion. No different than the above opinions, except this one doesn't radiate positivity.

Jason Akeson's small. Jay Rosehill has bad hands. Brayden Schenn is a poor fighter. All opinions.

So, my question is this: If Vinny is so great in all categories that there is nothing he doesn't do well, then why wouldn't anyone trade for him when Ron Hextall gave his agent permission to seek a trade?


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 10 @ 7:13 PM ET
You won't know that until someone puts a big wad of cash in his hands.
- mayorofangrytown


Then Hexy will trade him…And get a pick. He always gets a pick
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 10 @ 7:25 PM ET
Why does it have to be that he murdered anybody's kittens?

If you say "he still has a great shot" and "he has great offensive instincts" and "he has great hands," those are all hockey-related skills. Those are my opinions, too, right?

So, if I say I think he's slow, that's a hockey-related skill, too. And an opinion. No different than the above opinions, except this one doesn't radiate positivity.

Jason Akeson's small. Jay Rosehill has bad hands. Brayden Schenn is a poor fighter. All opinions.

So, my question is this: If Vinny is so great in all categories that there is nothing he doesn't do well, then why wouldn't anyone trade for him when Ron Hextall gave his agent permission to seek a trade?

- AllInForFlyers


If I have an opinion that Lecavalier is the best player in the league, is that a valid opinion? Of course it isn't. So you can have the opinion that he is slow, but that doesn't make it true. He's certainly not fast, but he's not slow either.

Secondly, there is some hyperbole here. Nobody has stated that Lecavalier is "so great in all categories". So not sure what you're talking about there.

Lastly, Lecavalier suffered a back fracture and had a down season, last year. It's understandable that teams would be weary of that, with having 4 years left on his contract at 4.5M a year. And we truly don't know that anyone wouldn't trade for him. A team could have made an offer that the Flyers turned down.

It's pretty obvious that he is in much better condition then he was last year, and his quickness and skating is much improved from where it was last season after the injury.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 10 @ 7:31 PM ET
I usually try to avoid these pissing matches you guys seem to have on a daily basis. But my opinion is that VLC has looked to be moving well and up on his skates for the games he HAS played so far. He has never been a speedster, but he has hardly looked slow by any metric. But then again, he didn't murder my kittens and sleep with my mother like he seems to have done to some in here.
- MBFlyerfan


He said Winnipeg was a poophole.

The hatred began. 21F and the snow starting. Get your bathing suits ready!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 10 @ 7:41 PM ET
Why does it have to be that he murdered anybody's kittens?
- AllInForFlyers


Adding kitten-killer to my anti-Vinny propaganda pamphlets as we speak.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 10 @ 7:46 PM ET
I usually try to avoid these pissing matches you guys seem to have on a daily basis. But my opinion is that VLC has looked to be moving well and up on his skates for the games he HAS played so far. He has never been a speedster, but he has hardly looked slow by any metric. But then again, he didn't murder my kittens and sleep with my mother like he seems to have done to some in here.
- MBFlyerfan


Just so you know.....Vinny didn't murder my kittens. He just accidentally left the door open and they escaped.

And also he only slept with my Mom the one time.

/seeks out therapy
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 10 @ 7:46 PM ET
Adding kitten-killer to my anti-Vinny propaganda pamphlets as we speak.
- Tomahawk


Running over them with his wheel chair.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 10 @ 7:53 PM ET
Running over them with his wheel chair.
- flyer_nutter


ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 10 @ 7:58 PM ET
Running over them with his wheel chair.
- flyer_nutter


Come on he's upgraded

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 10 @ 8:01 PM ET
Come on he's upgraded


- ob18


Does look faster.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 10 @ 8:08 PM ET
What is wrong with Ek? As a flyer fan his thread today is just so annoying. No wonder why everyone hates us.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 10 @ 8:26 PM ET
Adding kitten-killer to my anti-Vinny propaganda pamphlets as we speak.
- Tomahawk


I'm not even anti-Vinny. If there's a period or game where someone can point to where he doesn't look like one of the slowest players, if not the slowest, on the ice, by all means, let me know. I can call up any Flyers game, and I would, because unless he looked like the Roadrunner in the one game I missed, that dude is slow
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 10 @ 8:27 PM ET
Why does it have to be that he murdered anybody's kittens?

If you say "he still has a great shot" and "he has great offensive instincts" and "he has great hands," those are all hockey-related skills. Those are my opinions, too, right?

So, if I say I think he's slow, that's a hockey-related skill, too. And an opinion. No different than the above opinions, except this one doesn't radiate positivity.

Jason Akeson's small. Jay Rosehill has bad hands. Brayden Schenn is a poor fighter. All opinions.

So, my question is this: If Vinny is so great in all categories that there is nothing he doesn't do well, then why wouldn't anyone trade for him when Ron Hextall gave his agent permission to seek a trade?

- AllInForFlyers



What are you asking me for? All I said was that he looks up on his skates and is moving pretty well.


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 10 @ 8:30 PM ET
Adding kitten-killer to my anti-Vinny propaganda pamphlets as we speak.
- Tomahawk



AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 10 @ 8:32 PM ET
What are you asking me for? All I said was that he looks up on his skates and is moving pretty well.
- MBFlyerfan


No worries-- we disagree on that. I don't have anything against the guy, which is more what I was saying from your post. It's nothing personal with him. Think he is probably a good guy
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