I will defend against all positives given to advanced statistics because it is not 100% reliable and infallible.

My skull is of adequate hardness, tyvm
- BulliesPhan87

I will defend against all positives given to advanced statistics because it is not 100% reliable and infallible.
- jmatchett383

WOWY! Of Corsi you will, 100% of the time!!

I'm not assuming. Past evidence of how other flawed stats such as Corsi, were accepted as gospel, suggests that this couldl be the same. Not for all, but with enough for it to be an issue.
- MJL

An issue with NHL teams' future success or an issue with you?

Because at the end of the day, what fans think is irrelevant.

I will defend against all positives given to advanced statistics because it is not 100% reliable and infallible.
- jmatchett383

What do you expect, really? You can time VLC with a sundial, but if we did just that, it would be explained to you how the shade is flawed

Please define false data
- PhillySportsGuy

Shot data from a shift on the ice is applied to all 10 skaters on the ice, whether they were involved or had anything to do with generating the shot, or giving up the shot.

A perfect example is a forward turns the puck over in the D zone, leading to 3 shot attempts against in a shift. A defenseman on the ice, at the same time, executed perfectly, and covered his responsibilities perfectly. He skates to the bench a -3 in corsi events for that shift.

As much as 30% of Corsi data is false data for individual players.

An issue with NHL teams' future success or an issue with you?

Because at the end of the day, what fans think is irrelevant.
- NickTheKid87

Well then why are we here talking pucks?

Well then why are we here talking pucks?
- MJL

I'm having a slow day at work, personally.

Well then why are we here talking pucks?
- MJL

Because it's something to do. Of course, we could go back to arguing about the effectiveness of Umberger and whether or not Vinny sucks, which has much more bearing on the Flyers' management's decision-making process.

WOWY! Of Corsi you will, 100% of the time!!
- coffee junkie

lol

What do you expect, really? You can time VLC with a sundial, but if we did just that, it would be explained to you how the shade is flawed
- AllInForFlyers

But how good are his 30-foot shots?

Well then why are we here talking pucks?
- MJL

mostly in hopes somebody slips up, says something funny, and we repeat it out of context forever more

I mean, that's why I'm here

WOWY! Of Corsi you will, 100% of the time!!
- coffee junkie

Yes, all of the all of the 100% of them always.

Because it's something to do. Of course, we could go back to arguing about the effectiveness of Umberger and whether or not Vinny sucks, which has much more bearing on the Flyers' management's decision-making process.
- jmatchett383

Right, it's something to do. So in the context of this forum, what fans think isn't irrelevant.

anyone know what we offered for Tallon's first round pick this past draft ?

mostly in hopes somebody slips up, says something funny, and we repeat it out of context forever more

I mean, that's why I'm here
- BulliesPhan87

Haha, you didn't use correctly capitalization at the beginning of your post. FAIL!

Right, it's something to do. So in the context of this forum, what fans think isn't irrelevant.
- MJL

Does this forum have anything to do with what NHL management does? Is this forum a representation of the average person in the world?

Haha, you didn't use correctly capitalization at the beginning of your post. FAIL!
- jmatchett383

it's part of my gimmick, nerd. learn the lore.

it's part of my gimmick, nerd. learn the lore.
- BulliesPhan87

Yeah, well...take that!

Does this forum have anything to do with what NHL management does? Is this forum a representation of the average person in the world?
- jmatchett383

God I hope not.

Does this forum have anything to do with what NHL management does? Is this forum a representation of the average person in the world?
- jmatchett383

No, in the context of having an impact on NHL management, our opinions mean squat. But we're not interacting in that realm. We're interacting in this realm. I think this forum is a representation of the average hockey fan in the world.

And if that happens, Akeson's failure will be blamed on Lecavalier, and Umberger. And there is nothing wrong with Lecavalier's skating. He's skating pretty well, and his quickness is much improved from last year.
- MJL

I would say that VLC has lost a step or two in his straight away speed. He can't blow around D men on the rush and crash the net for goals like he used to do. He also seems to get winded quicker. This is typical for an aging player. His quickness seems "OK" but he does seem to lag behind in reaction time vs. some quicker, younger players at times.

Vinny is still crafty in the offensive zone...he likes to play (position himself) in the slot and cycling around the net and coming out to the right side between the goal line and the top of the right circle, but as Berube (finally) noted, he needs someone to get him the puck in those spots. He can't carry the puck with the speed he used to to create his own chances...maybe Akeson can help.

Shot data from a shift on the ice is applied to all 10 skaters on the ice, whether they were involved or had anything to do with generating the shot, or giving up the shot.

A perfect example is a forward turns the puck over in the D zone, leading to 3 shot attempts against in a shift. A defenseman on the ice, at the same time, executed perfectly, and covered his responsibilities perfectly. He skates to the bench a -3 in corsi events for that shift.

As much as 30% of Corsi data is false data for individual players.
- MJL

Your definition of 'False Data' is incorrect.

No, in the context of having an impact on NHL management, our opinions mean squat. But we're not interacting in that realm. We're interacting in this realm.
- MJL

Which accounts to a lot of nothing. This is mindless bantering that has no real effect on our lives. At least I hope it doesn't. That would actually be pretty sad.

mostly in hopes somebody slips up, says something funny, and we repeat it out of context forever more

I mean, that's why I'm here
- BulliesPhan87