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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:00 PM ET
i have absolutely 0 aspirations of being a trial lawyer, so to me, it really isnt.

and its hard as hell to boot.

most people just sit and hope they arent called on, but since temple is one of the bigger ones on the east coast for trial ad you get a few gunners in there who think every class is an opportunity to cross exam jack nicholson

- stayinthefnnet




I think law is one of the more glamorized professions that rarely matches real life. I called our lawyer once to review some issue we had with our home owners insurance.

He was bummed that I didn't call him about a DUI or other crime
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:01 PM ET
Emulate Trey Gowdy and you'll be fine!
- MJL



ive heard the name, but im not too familiar offhand. all i know is that he is republican, correct?

ill admit its one of my shortcomings, but im horribly apathetic/uninformed with politics.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:02 PM ET
Her stepdad is a gremlin though
- PhillySportsGuy




I remember when he was on CHiPs...he replaced the blonde, not Erik Estrada guy
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:03 PM ET
ive heard the name, but im not too familiar offhand. all i know is that he is republican, correct?

ill admit its one of my shortcomings, but im horribly apathetic/uninformed with politics.

- stayinthefnnet


Then you are blessed. I actively avoid politics. I've adopted they all suck attitude
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:03 PM ET


I think law is one of the more glamorized professions that rarely matches real life. I called our lawyer once to review some issue we had with our home owners insurance.

He was bummed that I didn't call him about a DUI or other crime

- Jsaquella


So many of them know nothing. I'm amazed at how they made it through law school and passed the bar
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:04 PM ET


I think law is one of the more glamorized professions that rarely matches real life. I called our lawyer once to review some issue we had with our home owners insurance.

He was bummed that I didn't call him about a DUI or other crime

- Jsaquella


im sure doctors would like to stake their claim to that title, but without a doubt. that is law to some sort of scientific notation numerical value.

not that i have a ton of practical experience, but loads of it is tedious, even on its best days. and the whole courtroom drama stuff is severe hyperbole. hell, even your average run of the mill type stuff has a ridiculously small trial rate anymore these days.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:05 PM ET
ive heard the name, but im not too familiar offhand. all i know is that he is republican, correct?

ill admit its one of my shortcomings, but im horribly apathetic/uninformed with politics.

- stayinthefnnet


He's a Republican Congressman, who was a former prosecutor. He's a demon on cross examination.

Hard to be informed on everything when going to school.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:05 PM ET
Then you are blessed. I actively avoid politics. I've adopted they all suck attitude
- Jsaquella


That's pretty much the truth.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:06 PM ET
Then you are blessed. I actively avoid politics. I've adopted they all suck attitude
- Jsaquella


as do i.

i also loathe the discussions that usually come of it, because people are typically jackasses.

most people at school lean very hard one way or the other, and they arent content about you not coloring yourself either red or blue.

all i ask is that people respect other people's opinion and at least hear it out before coming to a conclusion, and have a rational basis for your own beliefs. and most people cant even provide that.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:07 PM ET
He's a Republican Congressman, who was a former prosecutor. He's a demon on cross examination.

Hard to be informed on everything when going to school.

- MJL


i just typed him into google. a demon on cross? good for him.

his picture honestly reminded me of the one bit character on the simpsons named gill who is extremely timid and always (frank)s up.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:07 PM ET
im sure doctors would like to stake their claim to that title, but without a doubt. that is law to some sort of scientific notation numerical value.

not that i have a ton of practical experience, but loads of it is tedious, even on its best days. and the whole courtroom drama stuff is severe hyperbole. hell, even your average run of the mill type stuff has a ridiculously small trial rate anymore these days.

- stayinthefnnet


I have a friend who is a lawyer, a former Assistant US attorney, and now a federal judge. Some of the stories he tells me about how mundane it can be. I'd fall asleep from boredom half the time
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:08 PM ET

So many of them know nothing. I'm amazed at how they made it through law school and passed the bar

- PhillySportsGuy


I always pictured lawyers as being more

Than
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:09 PM ET

So many of them know nothing. I'm amazed at how they made it through law school and passed the bar

- PhillySportsGuy


seriously. i think a lot of them just go because they come from money and daddy told them to. once there they realize it is a perfect environment to spew cocky douchery.

however, i will have to say that there are some absolutely brilliant people in there. especially the professors. ive had 2 or 3 that ive literally felt humbled to engage in conversation.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:10 PM ET
I have a friend who is a lawyer, a former Assistant US attorney, and now a federal judge. Some of the stories he tells me about how mundane it can be. I'd fall asleep from boredom half the time
- MJL


Theres just so much reading. Especially, when people first start. The kids who just graduated get all of the female dog work.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:10 PM ET
I have a friend who is a lawyer, a former Assistant US attorney, and now a federal judge. Some of the stories he tells me about how mundane it can be. I'd fall asleep from boredom half the time
- MJL


oh yeah.

i actually think a lot of the reason lawyers are paid isnt because the average person cant do these things, its because no one in their right mind wants to.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:11 PM ET
im sure doctors would like to stake their claim to that title, but without a doubt. that is law to some sort of scientific notation numerical value.

not that i have a ton of practical experience, but loads of it is tedious, even on its best days. and the whole courtroom drama stuff is severe hyperbole. hell, even your average run of the mill type stuff has a ridiculously small trial rate anymore these days.

- stayinthefnnet


Doctors though, can see many different patients in a day, if they are a GP, or if they are a specialist, they can at least usually get the feeling of helping somebody.

Lawyerin', even if you're a character like Lawyerin' Joe Amendola, is a ton of research and paperwork.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:11 PM ET
oh yeah.

i actually think a lot of the reason lawyers are paid isnt because the average person cant do these things, its because no one in their right mind wants to.

- stayinthefnnet



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:11 PM ET
oh yeah.

i actually think a lot of the reason lawyers are paid isnt because the average person cant do these things, its because no one in their right mind wants to.

- stayinthefnnet


Just keep thinking to yourself that they are paid, and paid very well. He lives in a million dollar house!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:13 PM ET
Theres just so much reading. Especially, when people first start. The kids who just graduated get all of the female dog work.
- PhillySportsGuy


I asked him how as a judge, he remembers everything he needs to know. He said he doesn't. That's why he has 3 law clerks to research and look stuff up.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:14 PM ET
Just keep thinking to yourself that they are paid, and paid very well. He lives in a million dollar house!

- MJL


todays market is absolutely brutal.

i also go back and forth with myself a ton over what actually matters to me and what i want to do. seems like more and more anymore.

i hate it haha
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:15 PM ET
I asked him how as a judge, he remembers everything he needs to know. He said he doesn't. That's why he has 3 law clerks to research and look stuff up.
- MJL


oh yeah.

honestly. in a lot of ways judges have it much easier than the actual lawyers.

but your big shot lawyers often make more than the person presiding over the case.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:15 PM ET
as do i.

i also loathe the discussions that usually come of it, because people are typically jackasses.

most people at school lean very hard one way or the other, and they arent content about you not coloring yourself either red or blue.

all i ask is that people respect other people's opinion and at least hear it out before coming to a conclusion, and have a rational basis for your own beliefs. and most people cant even provide that.

- stayinthefnnet


In the US, far too much time is spent trying to get elected, and far too little spent governing. Basically, at the national level, these guys are simply putting their name on bills written by lobbyists who throw tons of cash at them.

I just stockpile enough money to escape to Canada when somebody like Donald Trump or Keith Olbermann becomes president
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:16 PM ET
seriously. i think a lot of them just go because they come from money and daddy told them to. once there they realize it is a perfect environment to spew cocky douchery.

however, i will have to say that there are some absolutely brilliant people in there. especially the professors. ive had 2 or 3 that ive literally felt humbled to engage in conversation.

- stayinthefnnet


I was considering going and I talked to my wife's cousin. He said "If you like making money, screwing people over and don't mind working a lot, law is for you."

That turned me off a bit. All of my friends who are lawyers are miserable right now. I know it gets better once you work your way up, but it sucks in the beginning.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 12 @ 11:17 PM ET
oh yeah.

i actually think a lot of the reason lawyers are paid isnt because the average person cant do these things, its because no one in their right mind wants to.

- stayinthefnnet


Thats true, but they also assume the risk. I worked in commercial real estate and while it sucked to have to work with certain attorney's, it did feel good to pass all of the risk to the attorney.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 12 @ 11:17 PM ET
At least Iggy has a talent. She can sing, even if it's horrid pop music. Kardashian is famous because she screwed a B-list rapper and sold the sex tape.

I agree about the vapidness of the Americans who consume this rot & care about what people who are famous only for being famous do.

- Jsaquella

Her app is projected to make 200 MILLION this year

*blows my friggin brains out*
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