It won't be as easy this year I would think. Certainly not if this draft class continues to be as highly touted as they have been for some time now.
- AlexF

Benning has also made it pretty clear his goal is to make the playoffs not stockpile picks. You don't sign 30+ players for 30 million in the off-season if you are planning on rebuilding.

I'm sure Benning will be opportunistic if he gets a chance but nothing he has done so far suggests that he will be actively selling to get more picks.

I was a huge advocate for trying to get both Ladd and Buff out of CHI when they were dumping salary. Unfortunately I think they're both a pipedream now - one being the Jets captain and the other commanding a substantial return in trade.
- AlexF

Buff would be cheaper than Kane I imagine. But if we are moving Bieksa, Schenn is my preference, perhaps the Schenns for Bieksa and Shink.

If you weren't such a panty wearing pillow-biter maybe you wouldn't get banned so much

Edit - I just reported myself
- 1970vintage

Thank you for saving me the trouble.

If you weren't such a panty wearing pillow-biter maybe you wouldn't get banned so much

Edit - I just reported myself
- 1970vintage

You have nothing to worry about. Toronto won yesterday. Yeti will be in a good mood. But if you said something like Kessel is a panty wearing, pillow biting, Pillsbury dough boy that might get you in trouble.

Buff would be cheaper than Kane I imagine. But if we are moving Bieksa, Schenn is my preference, perhaps the Schenns for Bieksa and Shink.
- belcherbd

I haven't seen much of Schenn but I have seen quite a few Flyers fans who seem disappointed with him so far

Buff would be cheaper than Kane I imagine. But if we are moving Bieksa, Schenn is my preference, perhaps the Schenns for Bieksa and Shink.
- belcherbd

I disagree. I think her price is more based on value. A top 6 forward has more value then a top 2 D. I would prefer Schenns over Buff though.

Hockey question.

Canucks have a lot of players up for RFA, UFA status this year. Which of the following do you think will still be here next year and for how much?
Shawn Mathias UFA 1.75 current
Derek Dossett UFA 1.633 current
Brad Richardson UFA 1.15 current
Tom Sestito UFA 7.50 current
Linden Vey RFA .735 Current
Brandon DeFazio RFA . 497 current
Lucas Sbisa RFA 2.175 current
Christopher Tanev RFA 2.0 current
Yannic Weber RFA .850 current
Ryan Stanton RFA .550 Current
Frank Corrado RFA
Joacim Erickson RFA

I haven't seen much of Schenn but I have seen quite a few Flyers fans who seem disappointed with him so far
- bezz44

I have watched him a bit and can confidently say Flyer fans are fools if they are disappointed. He plays a complete game and is 23, he might not be the offensive power house that fans hoped for but is on pace for 60 pts playing mostly 2nd line minutes. He is responsible at both ends and hits very hard for his size, I think he will end up being a winger instead of C but still a fantastic young player.

I doubt they would be willing to move him but Bieksa is hyped up and Phi is always searching for D like him.

I disagree. I think her price is more based on value. A top 6 forward has more value then a top 2 D. I would prefer Schenns over Buff though.
- Linden_4_Capt

Sorry you disagree that Kane would fetch more than buff but a top 6 has more value than a top 2 D? Not sure what you are saying.


Value these days often comes down to potential of player and age. Kane is 6 years younger and in my mind has more perceived value on the market because of this.

Generally I would say that a top 2D ( not sure that Buff is as that though) has more value than a top 6 forward but like I said earlier a young player under a reasonable contract with star potential has more value and thus would cost more to acquire.

Hockey question.

Canucks have a lot of players up for RFA, UFA status this year. Which of the following do you think will still be here next year and for how much?
Shawn Mathias UFA 1.75 current
Derek Dossett UFA 1.633 current
Brad Richardson UFA 1.15 current
Tom Sestito UFA 7.50 current
Linden Vey RFA .735 Current
Brandon DeFazio RFA . 497 current
Lucas Sbisa RFA 2.175 current
Christopher Tanev RFA 2.0 current
Yannic Weber RFA .850 current
Ryan Stanton RFA .550 Current
Frank Corrado RFA
Joacim Erickson RFA
- Linden_4_Capt

Guessing Sestito, Weber and Matthias will not be back. BUT, if Mathias keeps improving, ya never know.

Richardson would be good to keep around but he may have other suitors.

Erickson is a big question mark, guessing team will trade Markstrom but Erickson may want to have a bigger defined role or go back to Sweden.

(prolly gave you the opposite of what you wanted. )

Sorry you disagree that Kane would fetch more than buff but a top 6 has more value than a top 2 D? Not sure what you are saying.


Value these days often comes down to potential of player and age. Kane is 6 years younger and in my mind has more perceived value on the market because of this.

Generally I would say that a top 2D ( not sure that Buff is as that though) has more value than a top 6 forward but like I said earlier a young player under a reasonable contract with star potential has more value and thus would cost more to acquire.
- belcherbd

I was about to respond to that one but it depends so much on the player(s) involved and needs of teams.

Top 2 dmen are coveted. Think of Dallas trading Neal for Goligoski.

How many teams have the legit top2 dmen compared to top6 forwards? Who has it all?

imo, it is easier to pick up scoring than defense.

I have watched him a bit and can confidently say Flyer fans are fools if they are disappointed. He plays a complete game and is 23, he might not be the offensive power house that fans hoped for but is on pace for 60 pts playing mostly 2nd line minutes. He is responsible at both ends and hits very hard for his size, I think he will end up being a winger instead of C but still a fantastic young player.

I doubt they would be willing to move him but Bieksa is hyped up and Phi is always searching for D like him.
- belcherbd

I think he was talking about Luke, not Brayden.

Hockey question.

Canucks have a lot of players up for RFA, UFA status this year. Which of the following do you think will still be here next year and for how much?
Shawn Mathias UFA 1.75 current
Derek Dossett UFA 1.633 current
Brad Richardson UFA 1.15 current
Tom Sestito UFA 7.50 current
Linden Vey RFA .735 Current
Brandon DeFazio RFA . 497 current
Lucas Sbisa RFA 2.175 current
Christopher Tanev RFA 2.0 current
Yannic Weber RFA .850 current
Ryan Stanton RFA .550 Current
Frank Corrado RFA
Joacim Erickson RFA
- Linden_4_Capt

Gone will be Matthias, Dorsett, Sestito, Weber and Defazio and Sbisa.

All are replaceable from within with the exception of Sbisa who would need to receive a minimum qualifying offer of 2.175 + 10% I believe. If Benning manages to sign him for less than maybe he resigns a la Mason Raymond.

Richardson will be offered a 1 or 2 year deal around 1.5 but may refuse.
Tanev signs long term 4 years 18 million.
Stanton signs 2 years 5 million
Corrado signs bridge deal and likely 2way.
Vey signs 1 way bridge for 2 years 4 million
Erikson will be offered a 2way deal which he might refuse.

Gone will be Matthias, Dorsett, Sestito, Weber and Defazio and Sbisa.

All are replaceable from within with the exception of Sbisa who would need to receive a minimum qualifying offer of 2.175 + 10% I believe. If Benning manages to sign him for less than maybe he resigns a la Mason Raymond.

Richardson will be offered a 1 or 2 year deal around 1.5 but may refuse.
Tanev signs long term 4 years 18 million.
Stanton signs 2 years 5 million
Corrado signs bridge deal and likely 2way.
Vey signs 1 way bridge for 2 years 4 million
Erikson will be offered a 2way deal which he might refuse.
- belcherbd

I hope they re-sign Dorsett.

Guessing Sestito, Weber and Matthias will not be back. BUT, if Mathias keeps improving, ya never know.

Richardson would be good to keep around but he may have other suitors.

Erickson is a big question mark, guessing team will trade Markstrom but Erickson may want to have a bigger defined role or go back to Sweden.

(prolly gave you the opposite of what you wanted. )
- hillbillydeluxe

So by your estimation we are opening up 1 roster spot? Weber is a 8th d and Sestito is a 13th forward.

I hope they re-sign Dorsett.
- Marwood

I think Dorsett is happy playing under WD.
If he isn't resigned, it was an expensive 1 year rental for a 3rd rounder.
I will differ from belcherbd and say he isn't easily replaceable, we don't have much of a history holding onto effective 4th liners that play the way Dorsett plays.

Gone will be Matthias, Dorsett, Sestito, Weber and Defazio and Sbisa.

All are replaceable from within with the exception of Sbisa who would need to receive a minimum qualifying offer of 2.175 + 10% I believe. If Benning manages to sign him for less than maybe he resigns a la Mason Raymond.

Richardson will be offered a 1 or 2 year deal around 1.5 but may refuse.
Tanev signs long term 4 years 18 million.
Stanton signs 2 years 5 million
Corrado signs bridge deal and likely 2way.
Vey signs 1 way bridge for 2 years 4 million
Erikson will be offered a 2way deal which he might refuse.
- belcherbd

really surprised that you have Dorsett on the goodbye list. DeFazio will be back for the farm. I think Sbisa will also be back.
Agree on Erickson. I hope we don't lose him for nothing. Can be traded for a low pick to a team with weak farm.

I hope they re-sign Dorsett.
- Marwood

I hope they re-sign Dorsett.
- Marwood

I would be okay with that but would rather see one of the prospects in that spot, one of Archibald, Gaunce, Kenins maybe even Fox or Grenier.

I think Dorsett is happy playing under WD.
If he isn't resigned, it was an expensive 1 year rental for a 3rd rounder.
I will differ from belcherbd and say he isn't easily replaceable, we don't have much of a history holding onto effective 4th liners that play the way Dorsett plays.
- hillbillydeluxe

Dorsett reminds me of Torres but with actual brain cells and not jello.

I would be okay with that but would rather see one of the prospects in that spot, one of Archibald, Gaunce, Kenins maybe even Fox or Grenier.
- belcherbd

Niether one of them can bring what Dorsett can. Plus he is only 27.

I think Dorsett is happy playing under WD.
If he isn't resigned, it was an expensive 1 year rental for a 3rd rounder.
I will differ from belcherbd and say he isn't easily replaceable, we don't have much of a history holding onto effective 4th liners that play the way Dorsett plays.
- hillbillydeluxe

Precisely.
Having a functioning 4th line has been coveted for years, now we have one and most want to trade the pieces or not bother retaining these players. Fickle fans.

So by your estimation we are opening up 1 roster spot? Weber is a 8th d and Sestito is a 13th forward.
- Linden_4_Capt

Trades are still a possibility.

I don't think they will necessarily keep both Mathias and Richardson.

Mathias has been steadily improving. Thought he couldn't score 5v5, and not seeing pp time... but has been bringing it lately.

When I see a list of ufa's for the team, I guess most of them aren't returning. rfa's are another story.

And then there are players under contract beyond this season, like Hansen, Higgins, Kassian and Jensen that I could see being moved if the right deal presents itself, and that could be said for just about any player save the Sedins.

Hockey question.

Canucks have a lot of players up for RFA, UFA status this year. Which of the following do you think will still be here next year and for how much?
Shawn Mathias UFA 1.75 current
Derek Dossett UFA 1.633 current
Brad Richardson UFA 1.15 current
Tom Sestito UFA 7.50 current
Linden Vey RFA .735 Current
Brandon DeFazio RFA . 497 current
Lucas Sbisa RFA 2.175 current
Christopher Tanev RFA 2.0 current
Yannic Weber RFA .850 current
Ryan Stanton RFA .550 Current
Frank Corrado RFA
Joacim Erickson RFA
- Linden_4_Capt

IMO
Shawn Mathias UFA 1.75 - resigned for same
Derek Dossett UFA 1.633 - resigned for same
Brad Richardson UFA 1.15 - resigned for more
Tom Sestito UFA 7.50 - released
Linden Vey RFA .735 - resigned for more
Brandon DeFazio RFA . 497 - no clue, leaning towards released
Lucas Sbisa RFA 2.175 - resigned for same
Christopher Tanev RFA 2.0 - gets a hefty raise
Yannic Weber RFA .850 - resigned for same or released
Ryan Stanton RFA .550 - resigned for more
Frank Corrado RFA - gets Q/O
Joacim Erickson RFA - released

really surprised that you have Dorsett on the goodbye list. DeFazio will be back for the farm. I think Sbisa will also be back.
Agree on Erickson. I hope we don't lose him for nothing. Can be traded for a low pick to a team with weak farm.
- Linden_4_Capt

I think unless Sbisa takes a step forward and outplays Stanton he won't be back at that guaranteed salary.

I don't think you can afford to have a top 4 making 4.5 - 5 each and your bottom pairing both making 2.5 each. At this point I like Stanton more and think he is and will be the better D. I'm not writing Sbisa off but I can't see him being anything but the 6 D at best with our current lineup and in my mind you cant pay your 6 D that much. The only reason we are getting away with it right now is that Stanton makes 550K and Weber 850K.