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Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Nov 14 @ 8:15 AM ET
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I never comment on this site, but are you on crack? Reimer for Perron or Petry? Reimer would barely, if at all make the Oilers better. But trading Perron or Petry definitely makes the Oilers worse. If you want to acquire Reimer you start with Fasth and throw in a mid level prospect or a third round draft pick. Reimer is slightly better than Fasth... maybe. The Oilers need to fire there goalie coach. Name one goalie in the last 4-5 years that has improved with the Oilers? When Scrivens came to the Oilers he was playing really well and the more he worked with Chabot the worse he seems to play. What's with this new thing where he jumps out at the puck, as soon as he does it he's out of position.

- Derek


While Perron or Petry is an overpayment for Reimer why would downgrade Reimer that badly for a 3rd round pick? Especially when he is signed for 2 years?

Only way Edmonton gets Reimer is if he is the final sweetener piece of a larger deal. Easy way for the oilers to upgrade their goaltending and reduce salary at the same time with Fasth.
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Nov 14 @ 8:20 AM ET
Craig Anderson + Marc Methot + conditional 2nd rd pick (if methot doesn't re-sign)

for

Eberle

be gentle....i think it's a deal that works nicely for both teams

edmonton gets an obvious #1 goalie, and a guy who would almost surely be your #1 d-man

ottawa gets the top six winger they need.

thoughts?

- sensarmy_11


Deal is only decent if Methot resigns. Otherwise it is a huge loss. We can beat it:

Eberle, Fasth

For

Gardiner, Reimer, 2016 2nd

We include the 2nd without the condition and offer a guaranteed young d-man. The goalie isn't as good but he can be. Ottawa can beat this if they can sign and trade Methot though.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 8:29 AM ET
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 14 @ 8:31 AM ET
Deal is only decent if Methot resigns. Otherwise it is a huge loss. We can beat it:

Eberle, Fasth

For

Gardiner, Reimer, 2016 2nd

We include the 2nd without the condition and offer a guaranteed young d-man. The goalie isn't as good but he can be. Ottawa can beat this if they can sign and trade Methot though.

- Steven_Dean

You do realize that Gardiner, Reimer and a 2nd probably dont even get you Eberle, right?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Nov 14 @ 8:41 AM ET
If you were upset when Cloutier quit I feel really bad for you. Actually worse for the rest of us! Who the (frank) are you?
- Ihatebrianburke


It's Cloutier
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Nov 14 @ 8:48 AM ET
Deal is only decent if Methot resigns. Otherwise it is a huge loss. We can beat it:

Eberle, Fasth

For

Gardiner, Reimer, 2016 2nd

We include the 2nd without the condition and offer a guaranteed young d-man. The goalie isn't as good but he can be. Ottawa can beat this if they can sign and trade Methot though.

- Steven_Dean


how are you beating it?

anderson > reimer
methot > gardiner

including a 2nd rd pick next season doesn't offset the fact that you're giving up 2 inferior players.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 14 @ 8:58 AM ET
how are you beating it?

anderson > reimer
methot > gardiner

including a 2nd rd pick next season doesn't offset the fact that you're giving up 2 inferior players.

- sensarmy_11


reimer and andersons career stats are idnetical.. and reimer is far younger than anderson.. who is 33.. and about to slow down

gardiner has already nearly caught methot in point production in half the career games.. also, methot is 30 (or soon to be)

stop showing sens fan bias.. its really quite embarrassing for you
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 14 @ 8:59 AM ET
how are you beating it?

anderson > reimer
methot > gardiner


including a 2nd rd pick next season doesn't offset the fact that you're giving up 2 inferior players.

- sensarmy_11



no.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 14 @ 9:02 AM ET
I was bitter when Cloutier left but had to give a hometown boy a read and gotta say I've become a fan....

On to pressing needs; Remember in preseason when a Markstrom was snuck through waivers???? It would have been a free roll of the dice and a good kick in the crotch of a divisional rival to steal the main piece that came in the Luongo deal.... I assume the hierarchy were to distracted polishing their bling from 30 years ago(the last time they accomplished anything in the NHL)

- Gaumond


ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 9:03 AM ET
Maybe we'll get offered Bishop for Jones and a 2nd again?
- Ihatebrianburke

Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 14 @ 9:04 AM ET
Holy leaf and sens fans :aah;
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 14 @ 9:04 AM ET
Why would the Leafs want Petry?? they already have Percy waiting in the wings who has shown he can play.


at 3mil petry is well overpaid and by traded reimer for him they add salary + they need to get a new backup. If they did trade reimer for petry and got a backup for around 800K all their capspace is eaten up. they'd have no room.



Terrible trade for the Leafs. Makes absolutely zero sense.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 9:05 AM ET
You do realize that Gardiner, Reimer and a 2nd probably dont even get you Eberle, right?
- Fakepartofme

This.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 9:06 AM ET
Why would the Leafs want Petry?? they already have Percy waiting in the wings who has shown he can play.


at 3mil petry is well overpaid and by traded reimer for him they add salary + they need to get a new backup. If they did trade reimer for petry and got a backup for around 800K all their capspace is eaten up. they'd have no room.



Terrible trade for the Leafs. Makes absolutely zero sense.

- burn

ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 9:06 AM ET
Holy leaf and sens fans :aah;
- Oilers4Life14

its terrible. I must leave.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Nov 14 @ 9:08 AM ET
reimer and andersons career stats are idnetical.. and reimer is far younger than anderson.. who is 33.. and about to slow down

gardiner has already nearly caught methot in point production in half the career games.. also, methot is 30 (or soon to be)

stop showing sens fan bias.. its really quite embarrassing for you

- Dozzer


edmonton needs a goalie right now to help them win. right now, anderson is a better goalie than reimer. nothing in his game suggests he's going to slow down, and he's signed to a very good deal.

gardiner is certainly a better puck mover than methot, but edmonton already has a few guys who can move the puck, but are completely incompetent in every other facet of the game. methot's overall game is SIGNIFICANTLY better than gardiners.

the oilers fans here have said several times that they don't need young guys who still need to develop, they need guys who are in their prime right now, to help them get over the hump and compliment the plethora of young talent already on the roster.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 14 @ 9:11 AM ET

- ChetManly



3mil for what he is producing is overpaid. He wouldnt be top 7 leaf D.

Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 14 @ 9:13 AM ET
its terrible. I must leave.
- ChetManly


We need backup...

I have to deal with this at school every day
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 14 @ 9:13 AM ET
3mil for what he is producing is overpaid. He wouldnt be top 7 leaf D.
- burn



this is just silly
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 14 @ 9:14 AM ET
edmonton needs a goalie right now to help them win. right now, anderson is a better goalie than reimer. nothing in his game suggests he's going to slow down, and he's signed to a very good deal.

gardiner is certainly a better puck mover than methot, but edmonton already has a few guys who can move the puck, but are completely incompetent in every other facet of the game. methot's overall game is SIGNIFICANTLY better than gardiners.

the oilers fans here have said several times that they don't need young guys who still need to develop, they need guys who are in their prime right now, to help them get over the hump and compliment the plethora of young talent already on the roster.

- sensarmy_11


why does edmonton need to win now? team is still very young.

also.. take it from a leafs fan.. its unwise to sell off young guys for vets.. in the end you end up worse off

Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 14 @ 9:14 AM ET
edmonton needs a goalie right now to help them win. right now, anderson is a better goalie than reimer. nothing in his game suggests he's going to slow down, and he's signed to a very good deal.

gardiner is certainly a better puck mover than methot, but edmonton already has a few guys who can move the puck, but are completely incompetent in every other facet of the game. methot's overall game is SIGNIFICANTLY better than gardiners.

the oilers fans here have said several times that they don't need young guys who still need to develop, they need guys who are in their prime right now, to help them get over the hump and compliment the plethora of young talent already on the roster.

- sensarmy_11


Did you see when Karlsson charged Pouliot last night?? That was pretty funny
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

Nov 14 @ 9:14 AM ET
edmonton needs a goalie right now to help them win. right now, anderson is a better goalie than reimer. nothing in his game suggests he's going to slow down, and he's signed to a very good deal.

gardiner is certainly a better puck mover than methot, but edmonton already has a few guys who can move the puck, but are completely incompetent in every other facet of the game. methot's overall game is SIGNIFICANTLY better than gardiners.

the oilers fans here have said several times that they don't need young guys who still need to develop, they need guys who are in their prime right now, to help them get over the hump and compliment the plethora of young talent already on the roster.

- sensarmy_11


why? are they going to win the cup in the next year or two?

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 14 @ 9:14 AM ET
3mil for what he is producing is overpaid. He wouldnt be top 7 leaf D.
- burn


too far

he would easily be second pairing.. and 3 million is more than fair for a solid UFA status d-man

Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 14 @ 9:15 AM ET
why does edmonton need to win now? team is still very young.

also.. take it from a leafs fan.. its unwise to sell off young guys for vets.. in the end you end up worse off

- Dozzer


Because if they do not start einning the damn team is going to fild because they are losing all their "fans"
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 9:15 AM ET
3mil for what he is producing is overpaid. He wouldnt be top 7 leaf D.
- burn

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