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ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:14 AM ET
I think a lot of oilers fans might agree that on goaltending, we should either go big or go home on an upgrade.

I think a lot of leafs fans might agree that even if Reimer is an upgrade, he's not a huge one.

And it goes without saying we'd be worse without Petry and Perron imo.

I really think there aren't many deals to be found between the oilers and the leafs. There's probably only two players who could be useful to us, and oil fans aren't going to like it: Bozak and Phaneuf.

- Morris

It doesn't bother me. both of those guys would be immediate improvements for the Oilers. Only problem is the cost.
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:15 AM ET
Oh yay, a habs fan now.
- Oilers4Life14

Shouldn't you be at school getting your ass kicked?
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:15 AM ET
Meh, go out and obtain a Kessel then.
- Garnie

We have Eberle. Sure, not as lethal as Kessel, but he is a scoring winger. We add in Perron and then whoever is your 2nd line scoring winger and I'd argue that Edmonton and Toronto have the same results between their two players.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:18 AM ET
But there's "scoring wingers" like Radim Vrbata and "scoring wingers" like Patrick Kane. And it's clear that Kessel is closer to the latter than the former.
- Morris

100% agree. But the argument stems to, what is more important, a scoring winger (more available) or an impact center (difficult). They haven't had anyone since Sundin.

Both have their upsides. Preference I suppose.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 14 @ 11:20 AM ET
We have Eberle. Sure, not as lethal as Kessel, but he is a scoring winger. We add in Perron and then whoever is your 2nd line scoring winger and I'd argue that Edmonton and Toronto have the same results between their two players.
- ChetManly



I don't know, best release/shot in the league.

I wouldn't trade JVR or Kessel, the rest you can fight over.

IMO - I don t watch many Edm games.

You guys need a good D and you have the assets, just afraid to pull the trigger?
Bosanuts
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ellerslie, AB
Joined: 10.22.2014

Nov 14 @ 11:21 AM ET
Tom Gazzola, Bob Stauffer, Jack Michaels and Chris Wescott is "the" panel? Really?



Who the #@$% hired them? Safe to say that they're all either related or family friends of Katz?

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 14 @ 11:24 AM ET
Kessel is a way better version of Eberle.
Hall is a way better version of JVR.

As a rough estimate.

- Morris



Hall is not WAY better than JVR

Take a look at JVR's #s, they are pretty good.

Edit: since he's become a Leaf
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:26 AM ET
I was really hoping the title was sarcastic

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 14 @ 11:30 AM ET
I was really hoping the title was sarcastic


- BigDre


If you could get him for cheap it would be a good move.

Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 14 @ 11:31 AM ET
If you could get him for cheap it would be a good move.
- Garnie

agreed. I don't think for the oilers and where they're going Petry or Perron for Reimer is cheap though.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:31 AM ET
Hall is not WAY better than JVR

Take a look at JVR's #s, they are pretty good.

Edit: since he's become a Leaf

- Garnie

Hall is WAYYY better than JVR. And I like JVR. Watch Hall play and then watch JVR play.

Edit: Hall has 29 more points in about 90 less games than JVR.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:34 AM ET
I don't know, best release/shot in the league.

I wouldn't trade JVR or Kessel, the rest you can fight over.

IMO - I don t watch many Edm games.

You guys need a good D and you have the assets, just afraid to pull the trigger?

- Garnie

And I wouldn't trade Hall or Eberle. Perron and Yakupov are debatable, depending on the return.

Edmonton needs a top pairing defenseman and a solid 2C. Prices could be too high, maybe a deal can't be worked out, teams wanting guys that Edmonton wants to keep, who knows. I'm hoping that MacT is working the phones trying to figure out something.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:35 AM ET
Hall is not WAY better than JVR

Take a look at JVR's #s, they are pretty good.

Edit: since he's become a Leaf

- Garnie

You're delusional. Hall is way better than JVR and is one of the top 3 LW's in the NHL.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
Hall is WAYYY better than JVR. And I like JVR. Watch Hall play and then watch JVR play.
- Oilfan19

Same. JVR has been a way better player since his arrival in Toronto. JVR and Pacorietty are similar players. Hall is better than both of those guys.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 14 @ 11:37 AM ET
yeah, that's kind of exactly where I am.

I'd take Phaneuf and Bozak in a trade where we got a chance to clear some salary (Purcell + Ference?) and also kicked in some picks and prospects to add value.

Whether both are overpaid or liked by Iggy or whatever, they're hometown guys who could do a lot of good shoring up some of the weaker depth spots on the team.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:38 AM ET
yeah, that's kind of exactly where I am.

I'd take Phaneuf and Bozak in a trade where we got a chance to clear some salary (Purcell + Ference?) and also kicked in some picks and prospects to add value.

Whether both are overpaid or liked by Iggy or whatever, they're hometown guys who could do a lot of good shoring up some of the weaker depth spots on the team.

- Morris

I don't see the leafs doing a deal like that ever. I wish.
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:40 AM ET
You're delusional. Hall is way better than JVR and is one of the top 3 LW's in the NHL.
- ChetManly

Hall is the second best left winger in the game. Hands down.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:41 AM ET
Anyone see the (frank)ing derp in the new leafs thread?? RNH + prospect for Kadri, gardner, reimer..
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:42 AM ET
Anyone see the (frank)ing derp in the new leafs thread?? RNH + prospect for Kadri, gardner, reimer..
- Oilfan19

I just read that. I'm hoping he was going for Seinfeld level of sarcasm.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:45 AM ET
I just read that. I'm hoping he was going for Seinfeld level of sarcasm.
- YzermanIsTheMan

I'm about to get banned for nothing. See you guys later
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:50 AM ET
I'm about to get banned for nothing. See you guys later
- Oilfan19

I like Dozzer. I'm weird.
gzatron
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.27.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:51 AM ET
so you would sell off a bright future for a couple first maybe second round exits?
- Dozzer


As a ref you seem to do a lot of trolling Richardface
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Nov 14 @ 11:52 AM ET
As a ref you seem to do a lot of trolling Richardface
- gzatron

lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 14 @ 11:52 AM ET
I like Dozzer. I'm weird.
- YzermanIsTheMan


Bruce is good
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 14 @ 11:52 AM ET
Hall is the second best left winger in the game. Hands down.
- YzermanIsTheMan

behind Benn? I can live with that.
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