did you really think it would end any other way? that's what this team does, and by this team, i do not mean the 2014-15 flyers, i mean the organization.
- hammarby31

We will continue to "bask" in the ineptitude, while the company yes man finds one excuse after another to spin the futility.

you mean like when luke lit a fire under darth vader in return of the jedi?
- hammarby31

I think I've had enough of Matt Read. I want to say sit him but I font even know who you call up.

well if read's poopty play is "only 15 teams" then the same should hold true for anyone else. right now i agree that akeson isn't showing much though. i think he's working hard, but the creative play we saw from him in the playoffs is not there. at the same though, is he bringing anything less than the other cruds? not really.
- hammarby31

I'm not close to closing the book on Jason Akeson as a player. I didn't see him as the problem last night. However in comparing a rookie to a player like Read, and think that they would be judged by the same standard, isn't logical. Read has shown over a number of seasons that he is a good NHL player. Akeson, has not to this point. Now Akeson is in his first season, so the difference in games and sample size is obviously not the same. The reality is that a player like Akeson is not going to get the same leeway and leash to find his game that a player like Read is.

I think I've had enough of Matt Read. I want to say sit him but I font even know who you call up.
- hereticpride

Sitting him makes zero sense.

3 strong seasons of play. After 15 sub par games, had enough?

Sitting him makes zero sense.
- MJL

It must in some minds.

Sitting him makes zero sense.
- MJL

Not going to get into a long winded debate over my opinion but the isnt right. He's flubbing passes left and right leading to scoring chances the other way. It's been consistently happening all season.

If Mason needed to breather to get his head straight why would it be so crazy to think Read might need the same thing?

Not going to get into a long winded debate over my opinion but the isnt right. He's flubbing passesleft and right leading to scoring chances the other way. It's been cconsistently happening all season.

If Mason needed to breather to get his head straight why would it be so crazy to think Read might need the same thing?
- hereticpride

I think everyone is aware of how Read has played. Comparing goalies to forwards is not a good comparison. Emery played because he was playing well at a time when Mason was struggling somewhat. A common occurrence with managing goaltenders. Who do we put in place of Read?

And then the comment of having enough of Read. He's been a strong player for the Flyers since day 1, through 3 seasons. Now after a stretch of 15 games and a slow start, had enough of him? He hasn't earned a little slack, and some benefit of the doubt?

So 2 things that surprised me.

Briere has 2 goals this season, both game winners

Mark Giordano is just (frank)ing tearing it up. I had no clue.

yet another game where the officials have a key role in deciding the outcome.
were the flyers sloppy? yes
were there 3 really obvious calls in the third period that the home team didn't get on a night when the power play was clicking? absolutely.

hartnell throws a punch into voracek's face with the ref 6 feet away looking right at it. (remember all the calls hartsy got away with when he player here? me neither)
sel zotto gets hooked down into the net in the slot by johansen; again ref in perfect position to call it
streit gets hooked and cross checked leading to a turnover when the flyers are creating pressure.



15 games in and still waiting for terrible calls to even out

So 2 things that surprised me.

Briere has 2 goals this season, both game winners

Mark Giordano is just (frank)ing tearing it up. I had no clue.
- Giroux_Is_God

Always thought Giordano was a real good player. But he's taking it to another level.

Sitting him makes zero sense.

3 strong seasons of play. After 15 sub par games, had enough?
- MJL

worst player on the ice last night by a long way. have a couple games in the pressbox and see if that clears his head

worst player on the ice last night by a long way. have a couple games in the pressbox and see if that clears his head
- hogweed

They won't sit others who had done little or made many boneheaded plays why would they sit Read?

Man, it's nights like tonight that make you question a lot of things you thought you knew about this team
- AllInForFlyers

they sure do get outworked a lot

worst player on the ice last night by a long way. have a couple games in the pressbox and see if that clears his head
- hogweed

Have a rotation upstairs for most of these guys. The view from above can sometimes help.

And before anybody poops on the idea, everybody's favorite son Gagne got put up there a few years ago and he said it opened his eyes to some of what was wrong with his game at the time.

Have a rotation upstairs for most of these guys. The view from above can sometimes help.

And before anybody poops on the idea, everybody's favorite son Gagne got put up there a few years ago and he said it opened his eyes to some of what was wrong with his game at the time.
- tangent_man

First up Rinaldo ?

They won't sit others who had done little or made many boneheaded plays why would they sit Read?
- ob18

every time he was on the ice last night was a disaster. my favorite was when they broke out through the neutral zone with speed and read tried to pick up the puck just outside the blueline. he ends up overskating it and puts himself offside. felt bad for him but he was terrible

Always thought Giordano was a real good player. But he's taking it to another level.
- MJL

I always thought that too.

A good player is one thing, but this is unheard of. Wow. Never thought he had this in him

Go habs go!!

every time he was on the ice last night was a disaster. my favorite was when they broke out through the neutral zone with speed and read tried to pick up the puck just outside the blueline. he ends up overskating it and puts himself offside. felt bad for him but he was terrible
- hogweed

He wasn't the only to not look good last night.

First up Rinaldo ?
- ob18

Rinaldo's at least playing hard, and he's not the most talented guy to begin with.

That's not to say he wouldn't deserve his turn up there, but he's not at the top of the list.

Rinaldo's at least playing hard, and he's not the most talented guy to begin with.

That's not to say he wouldn't deserve his turn up there, but he's not at the top of the list.
- tangent_man

worst player on the ice last night by a long way. have a couple games in the pressbox and see if that clears his head
- hogweed

Worst course of action that you could take as a coach. Read doesn't deserve that. He deserves a chance to play his way out of it.

Have a rotation upstairs for most of these guys. The view from above can sometimes help.

And before anybody poops on the idea, everybody's favorite son Gagne got put up there a few years ago and he said it opened his eyes to some of what was wrong with his game at the time.
- tangent_man

Gagne was out of the league for an entire year. Let's sit Read, who takes his place?

IMO the Flyers just have too many 4-6 dmen and borderline forwards to be a playoff team.

Borderline forwards: VLC* Umberger*, Akeson, Rinaldo, VDV, Jones
*doesn't matter what they've done in the past they are borderline players now. Also while he's looked great so far, you have to wonder when Bellemare hits a wall. He's used to playing a much shorter and easier schedule against weaker competition.

4-6 dmen: Schultz, CC, Schenn, Grossmann, Streit. Also AMac, Coburn and MDZ are only 2nd pairing guys as well.

I want to be optimistic, but I have to be realistic. At the end of the day, Im willing to be patient, I think Hextall has a long range plan and in his heart he knew there was a very good chance that this team would be in the lottery