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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 15 @ 4:08 PM ET
late third maybe three or four minutes left
- Jsaquella


At the 4:47 mark into the 3rd period.

http://www.flyershistory..../poboxscore.cgi?200030214
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 15 @ 4:09 PM ET
i know the general consensus seems to be Akeson is getting buried and/or not getting a fair shake... but tbh, he hasn't shown me ANYTHING so far this season.


obviously that could change, but ive been pretty disappointed with his play. He just can't seem to put it together


/controversial

- Crimsoninja


I won't disagree, but why did he seemed to do well last season on a line with Read and Coots yet has struggled most of this season? I did see him put some pucks on the stick of Zac Rinaldo early on...but he's not going to get an assist on any of those because Zac can't score. I don't know if he will ultimately sink or swim in the NHL, but I want to see him get an extended look with players from the top 2/3 of the skill pool and a chance on the pp now and then before making any conclusions. Of course, Akeson himself needs to make sure he's giving it his all out there and doing everything he can to make the most of any opportunities. Let's also keep in mind this is s smallish player with just a handful of NHL games under his belt...some patience and leeway would be well advised.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 15 @ 4:13 PM ET
At the 4:47 mark into the 3rd period.

http://www.flyershistory..../poboxscore.cgi?200030214

- ob18


I mis remembered. I could have sworn it was later
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 15 @ 4:15 PM ET
I mis remembered. I could have sworn it was later
- Jsaquella


Thought the same thing but wanted to see if it was right
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 15 @ 4:15 PM ET
late third maybe three or four minutes left
- Jsaquella

Oh poop really? I was trying to look for highlights of the full game but didn't find anything that's (frank)in awesome
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 15 @ 4:17 PM ET
That's fine, I just disagree. He had 22 goals in the shortened season of 2012-13, which pro-rates to 37 in 82 games. He's been one of best possession players in the NHL since that season, and he's had stretches over the past three seasons where he's been as good as Giroux, who is undoubtedly elite.

At the very least, it can be agreed he's been really good over the last few seasons and absolutely torrid to start this season.

- Jsaquella


Sure but there is a difference between dreaming of what could be and what is. Getting 22 goals during a half season is fantastic! That's great that those goals could be pro-rated to a larger number but for me, he has to physically do so. Voracek could very well score 37 this season but we'll have to wait and see. He didn't do it last season. As far as point production, for all the raw skill Voracek has, his average production is recent seasons is much closer to Wayne Simmonds...up until this season of course.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 15 @ 4:18 PM ET
At the 4:47 mark into the 3rd period.

http://www.flyershistory..../poboxscore.cgi?200030214

- ob18

Thanks OB!

I watched that game on VHS tape. My dad would tape them and we'd watch them together when we had time later. I always asked if we could, and he said "nope we don't have enough time" which always confused me, because I always thought "What do you mean...we have 3 hours that are free today..."
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Nov 15 @ 4:29 PM ET
i know the general consensus seems to be Akeson is getting buried and/or not getting a fair shake... but tbh, he hasn't shown me ANYTHING so far this season.


obviously that could change, but ive been pretty disappointed with his play. He just can't seem to put it together


/controversial

- Crimsoninja

Last two regular seasons before this one, he was a point a game player in the NHL.

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SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 15 @ 4:32 PM ET
i know the general consensus seems to be Akeson is getting buried and/or not getting a fair shake... but tbh, he hasn't shown me ANYTHING so far this season.


obviously that could change, but ive been pretty disappointed with his play. He just can't seem to put it together


/controversial

- Crimsoninja

Last season he had something to prove, this season he's more relaxed and it's working against him. Maybe I'm wrong about this but just my thoughts.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Nov 15 @ 4:34 PM ET
Last season he had something to prove, this season he's more relaxed and it's working against him. Maybe I'm wrong about this but just my thoughts.
- SuperSchennBros

Maybe he just SUCKS
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 15 @ 4:46 PM ET
At what point in the 5 OT game did LeClair tie it?
- Giroux_Is_God


Early in the third period. Made it a 1-1 game. Goal stood after video review.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 15 @ 4:48 PM ET
Aubé-Kubel is not in the lineup today
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 15 @ 4:52 PM ET
Early in the third period. Made it a 1-1 game. Goal stood after video review.
- bmeltzer

Did it go off his stick or his helmet? These are the questions...
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 15 @ 4:53 PM ET
Did it go off his stick or his helmet? These are the questions...
- Giroux_Is_God


Head
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
Maybe he just SUCKS
- feelingkettle


I don't think anyone who has produced at that level for all of those years in the OHL, the AHL and leading up to and including his first ten games in the NHL, would all of the sudden just forget how to play hockey and at 24 yrs old, just suck.

Seems like almost every player (rookie or not) goes through periods of sub-par play and some people around these parts start to write them off as busts or scrubs. B Schenn was one recent example. While I tend to be a little less forgiving with players on the wrong side of 30, I usually like to give younger players the benefit of the doubt. Hey, maybe he does suck, but I don't think it's that. I think he can at least be that player I saw last season against the Rangers, which, at his salary, would be a good asset to have. I'm not trying to overrate him so much as hoping they don't impede his development with the jobbing they've done on him early on this season. It is my belief that if they show some confidence in him and put him into a position more suited to his skills and attributes, he will give them much more value than he has thus far this season. It's good that Berube seems to be letting Akeson out of the doghouse for some air but obviously still has him on a real short leash. Sometimes you have to keep moving players around until you find the right chemistry. We'll see how things play out.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 15 @ 5:53 PM ET
Thanks OB!

I watched that game on VHS tape. My dad would tape them and we'd watch them together when we had time later. I always asked if we could, and he said "nope we don't have enough time" which always confused me, because I always thought "What do you mean...we have 3 hours that are free today..."

- Giroux_Is_God


LOL, I watched it at home, every minute. By the 4th OT I had switched from booze to coffee. When Primeau scored I yelled so loud that I woke my wife, my dog and a few of my neighbors dogs too! I was so jacked up after the game that I ended up hitting an all night diner for an extremely early breakfast and was in my office by 5:30 or so.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 15 @ 5:54 PM ET
Its time to Waive or just trade Akeson.

The kid isn't going to get a proper shot under the current circus leader. He's worked hard enough to at least earn a real look at the NHL, for the sake of his career.

Let another team give him that chance. Just play Jones until Raffl is back. (frank) it.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 15 @ 5:55 PM ET
Last two regular seasons before this one, he was a point a game player in the NHL.

NEXT

- feelingkettle


He's the next big thing....in the Swiss league where he'll be playing next season
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 15 @ 5:55 PM ET
Aubé-Kubel is not in the lineup today
- ob18


reason?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 15 @ 5:57 PM ET
Its time to Waive or just trade Akeson.

The kid isn't going to get a proper shot under the current circus leader. He's worked hard enough to at least earn a real look at the NHL, for the sake of his career.

Let another team give him that chance. Just play Jones until Raffl is back. (frank) it.

- flyer_nutter


What would you consider a proper shot for Akeson?
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Nov 15 @ 5:58 PM ET
What would you consider a proper shot for Akeson?
- MJL

1st line wing or center, top PP unit time, and top D pairing. Let's see what this kid can do.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 15 @ 5:59 PM ET
You know, I love Scott Hartnell.

There is no debate that during his time as a Flyer he was part of some really great lines over the seasons.

He has a knack for it and looks like he is on another really good line in Columbus with Boone Jenner and Nick Foligno. Those two seemed to be two of the Jackets best forwards after Ryan Johansen. They seem to be pretty underrated as players. All Hartnell had to do was get to the net. I actually think he is getting carried a bit by those two guys, but I also give him some credit.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 15 @ 5:59 PM ET
What would you consider a proper shot for Akeson?
- MJL


Tranquilizer blow gun aimed at Berube.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 15 @ 6:00 PM ET
1st line wing or center, top PP unit time, and top D pairing. Let's see what this kid can do.
- feelingkettle


Don't forget starting goalie, head coach, VP of ticket sales, beer vendor and zamboni driver
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 15 @ 6:01 PM ET
Don't forget starting goalie, head coach, VP of ticket sales, beer vendor and zamboni driver
- BiggE


One day that might just be the Riley Cote autobiography.
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