that's a nice offer, you can take vinny as well
- Flyfreaky

wtf were they thinkin giving him 5 years?

typical gm craziness I guess

wtf were they thinkin giving him 5 years?

typical gm craziness I guess
- hugefemale dog77

5 wasn't bad, it's usually 9-12

So Edmonton has all those top round picks and they offer up Pouliot.

Good luck.
- Garnie

Or you can consider the source and not take this so seriously.

tough to say

im not even sure I want to deal him in the first place.
yaks has the potential to be a great 1rw, but he needs to refine that shot. im pretty apprehensive to move ebs and assume yaks is our 1rw going forward.


that said; I wouldn't accept less than a top pairing defender for eberle.
obviously that's a broad statement as their are many varying levels of those.

the webers and the suters are out of the question, so I wont even bother coming up with a package for one of those.
id assume the hedmans, mcdonaghs, oel's are no more attainable than the first group. so same goes.

I think its the yandles, byfugliens, Coburns etc that we are forced to try and make a play for.
and while some might have marginally more value than eberle (yandle), some also have less or are extremely comparable (myers, bogosian).

final answer;
depends
- hugefemale dog77

Of the big 3 on the Oilers, he would be the most expendable to get some D help. IMO.
I really don't think a guy like Yandle would help the Oilers much. The rest a kind of meh to me . Buff is pretty bad in his own zone. Myers would be interesting in the sense I think he is better than most give him credit for and is still young enough to grow.

Or you can consider the source and not take this so seriously.
- Jeropotato

his sources are top notch

Stay away from Seabrook. Though most Hawk fans would jump all over that. Not this one though.
- Elbows15

Duncan Keith?

5 wasn't bad, it's usually 9-12
- Flyfreaky

we've signed player x till hes 42!!! because we got him for ten years the cap hit is only 5 mil per!!


yeah, that wont come back to haunt you at all....

we've signed player x till hes 42!!! because we got him for ten years the cap hit is only 5 mil per!!


yeah, that wont come back to haunt you at all....
- hugefemale dog77

homer at his best

Duncan Keith?
- Dangles13

No but you can have Rozival.

Sadly, some would take that one too.


Seriously though. The Hawks would be crazy to even think of getting rid of any of the top 3. Its as good as any in the league and still young enough to be effective for a few more years.

Pretty sure we didn't resign him ... Why trade for him with the people we moved him to make room for

No but you can have Rozival.

Sadly, some would take that one too.


Seriously though. The Hawks would be crazy to even think of getting rid of any of the top 3. Its as good as any in the league and still young enough to be effective for a few more years.
- Elbows15

Oduya and Sharp probably could be had in the right deal?

Of the big 3 on the Oilers, he would be the most expendable to get some D help. IMO.
I really don't think a guy like Yandle would help the Oilers much. The rest a kind of meh to me . Buff is pretty bad in his own zone. Myers would be interesting in the sense I think he is better than most give him credit for and is still young enough to grow.
- Elbows15

like between hall, nuge, ebs?
without a doubt. the first 2 are the franchise cornerstones going forward. eberle is a talented sniper. but a complimentary player.

its funny, cause moving ebs could be just the thing that brings in the pieces to get this team over the hump and into true respecatability.
but id wager that if we do get to that place, we'll be desperate to find a true snipe like ebs to get to the next level.
tough spot

yandle is a puck mover, and a pp qb. an elite one. hes also got nasty streak and likes to play physical. we don't have a guy with all those attributes. I also think his defensive weaknesses are abit overstated. hes a top pairing guy for sure. I think he helps a lot.

a lot of the same things can be said about byfuglien. hes got some warts, but he can be an impact player.

myers has a high ceiling, but more question marks at present than either. love to have him, but ebs is a steep price. and anything significant above and beyond ebs is silly for myers right now.

Coburn would be nice.


again; I think we should be shopping the first. not ebs

montreal has been there with Pouliot already, he sucks and thats an ugly contract!

Since the Oilers are clearly crap, and destined for a crack at Mc David, what would fans of other teams be willing to trade TODAY for that pick?

Stay away from Seabrook. Though most Hawk fans would jump all over that. Not this one though.
- Elbows15

Hawks would have to be blown away to move Seabrook at this point

Eberle alone isn't enough. Big top pairing dmen are far more valuable than smaller sized 65 pt wingers

No but you can have Rozival.

Sadly, some would take that one too.


Seriously though. The Hawks would be crazy to even think of getting rid of any of the top 3. Its as good as any in the league and still young enough to be effective for a few more years.
- Elbows15

Forwards are much easier to acquire and I wouldn't move those boys for nothing.

like between hall, nuge, ebs?
without a doubt. the first 2 are the franchise cornerstones going forward. eberle is a talented sniper. but a complimentary player.

its funny, cause moving ebs could be just the thing that brings in the pieces to get this team over the hump and into true respecatability.
but id wager that if we do get to that place, we'll be desperate to find a true snipe like ebs to get to the next level.
tough spot

yandle is a puck mover, and a pp qb. an elite one. hes also got nasty streak and likes to play physical. we don't have a guy with all those attributes. I also think his defensive weaknesses are abit overstated. hes a top pairing guy for sure. I think he helps a lot.

a lot of the same things can be said about byfuglien. hes got some warts, but he can be an impact player.

myers has a high ceiling, but more question marks at present than either. love to have him, but ebs is a steep price. and anything significant above and beyond ebs is silly for myers right now.

Coburn would be nice.


again; I think we should be shopping the first. not ebs
- hugefemale dog77

You're probably right. Though any of the 3 mentioned would be better than what is currently on the top pair for the Oilers.

I sure would hate to have my team move a 1st in this draft. There is some serious quality there.

Since the Oilers are clearly crap, and destined for a crack at Mc David, what would fans of other teams be willing to trade TODAY for that pick?
- Jeropotato

and keep in mind that the only reason we aren't asking for the moon already is because its a question mark where it ends up.

the longer we wait and remain near the bottom, increasing our chances at mceichel, the more valuable the pick gets.

people have mentioned that theyd like to see where its at before they make an offer. which is fair.
but the price is way higher if we KNOW we're in the top 3. let alone 1.

Oduya and Sharp probably could be had in the right deal?
- DDM-Coga

For this season? I really don't think so. TVR's play may change that opinion on Oduya, Have you seen this kid play?

TBH, I think the Hawks are going to roll with this team and take their best shot at winning a Cup this season before some moves have to be made in the offseason depending on where the cap ends up.

Forwards are much easier to acquire and I wouldn't move those boys for nothing.
- Dangles13

Yeah. True. Add in the cap numbers for Keith and Hjalmarsson and they become even more valuable. Hjalmarsson cost less than Andy MacDonald.

You're probably right. Though any of the 3 mentioned would be better than what is currently on the top pair for the Oilers.

I sure would hate to have my team move a 1st in this draft. There is some serious quality there.
- Elbows15

yeah.
we aint getting the stud 1. we have to wait and hope nurse becomes that. which could take years. if ever.

so we need to add what quality top pairing guys we can if we wanna get past this stage. even if they have warts, we need it done asap.
and a step further, I thnk the biggest thing for this franchise is wins for these kids and confidence. the longer we wait, the harder is it to turn around after years of losing.

but on the flip side, the desperation isn't a secret. so I can guess the lowball offers mact gets on the reg. plus the inability to attract big name free agents.
hes got a tough job.

of all people, id assume a Blackhawk fan can remember and see how huge the signings of Campbell and hossa were for that squad moving forward at that stage of the rebuild...

IMO, there is only one untouchable on Edmonton and it's Hall

Eberle is a good player but I don't get why people are so reluctant to get rid of him

Yak MAY be an elite goal scorer one day, but that looks less likely every day

Nuge MAY be an elite top line center one day but at this point he probably seems better as a really good 2C as he struggles against elite matchups

Eberle is a good play making winger but he hasn't really taken the next step in becoming a top tier winger

All guys have very good trade value, but Edmonton needs to bite the bullet and say goodbye to one of them to fix some glaring needs on D because their prospects aren't going to fix it

Edmonton treats yak, RNH, and eberle like they're toews, giroux, and stamkos

Just because they burned some high draft picks on these guys doesn't mean they're worth elite returns

For this season? I really don't think so. TVR's play may change that opinion on Oduya, Have you seen this kid play?

TBH, I think the Hawks are going to roll with this team and take their best shot at winning a Cup this season before some moves have to be made in the offseason depending on where the cap ends up.
- Elbows15

With prospects like Teravainen, McNeil and Morin still coming along it's going to ease the loss of a guy like Sharp. Especially with Saad continuing to develop.

yeah.
we aint getting the stud 1. we have to wait and hope nurse becomes that. which could take years. if ever.

so we need to add what quality top pairing guys we can if we wanna get past this stage. even if they have warts, we need it done asap.
and a step further, wins for thesI thnk the biggest thing for this franchise is e kids and confidence. the longer we wait, the harder is it to turn around after years of losing.

but on the flip side, the desperation isn't a secret. so I can guess the lowball offers mact gets on the reg. plus the inability to attract big name free agents.
hes got a tough job
- hugefemale dog77

I couldn't agree more with this point. That is huge.

IMO, there is only one untouchable on Edmonton and it's Hall

Eberle is a good player but I don't get why people are so reluctant to get rid of him

Yak MAY be an elite goal scorer one day, but that looks less likely every day

Nuge MAY be an elite top line center one day but at this point he probably seems better as a really good 2C as he struggles against elite matchups

Eberle is a good play making winger but he hasn't really taken the next step in becoming a top tier winger

All guys have very good trade value, but Edmonton needs to bite the bullet and say goodbye to one of them to fix some glaring needs on D because their prospects aren't going to fix it

Edmonton treats yak, RNH, and eberle like they're toews, giroux, and stamkos

Just because they burned some high draft picks on these guys doesn't mean they're worth elite returns
- FourFeathers773

let's assume for a second the bold is true;

both are right wingers.

think about that statement again


and nuge is absolutely becoming the guy we wanted.
hes not the same nuge of 2012, 2013.
hes not getting moved. hes our 1c