DONE
- 2Real

Not much of a negotiator are you?

Any pick(s) or prospect(s) also coming back?
- ob18

Nope

Nope
- Jsaquella

Then I would hesitate

Not much of a negotiator are you?
- ob18

Richards would be an upgrade over Umberger and we got our fan favorite captain back
coburn leaves and is easy to replace regher is just an old vet to help out our younger guys

Not much of a negotiator are you?
- ob18

Peter Brand:
I think he was gonna say something else.
Billy Beane:
When you get the answer you're looking for, hang up.

Then I would hesitate
- ob18

As would I.

Peter Brand:
I think he was gonna say something else.
Billy Beane:
When you get the answer you're looking for, hang up.
- 77rams

I'd turn around and flip Regher for picks

I'd turn around and flip Regher for picks
- Jsaquella

That I'd also do

I'd turn around and flip Regher for picks
- Jsaquella

would be a great TDL deal

That I'd also do
- ob18

His best asset is that he's off the books in July

His best asset is that he's off the books in July
- Jsaquella

Kings have to make moves at some point, they have a host of players they'd like to keep that will require cap space

would be a great TDL deal
- 2Real

It'd be a great deal 8 minutes after original deal. Regher is another slow, stay at home type

Richards would be an upgrade over Umberger and we got our fan favorite captain back
coburn leaves and is easy to replace regher is just an old vet to help out our younger guys
- 2Real

Richards would be HUGE upgrade, the hard part is getting rid of Umberger which I think it may be easier to walk on water than do that.

Richards would be HUGE upgrade, the hard part is getting rid of Umberger which I think it may be easier to walk on water than do that.
- 3flyerkids

i'd do Vinny for Richards too since Richards would be better at the role Vinny should be playing right now

i'd do Vinny for Richards too since Richards would be better at the role Vinny should be playing right now
- 2Real

I need something else in that deal. You're taking on more years with Richards.

I agree that Richards would be a much better fit tho.

Kings are closer to the cap than the Flyers, that won't happen.
- ob18

You know what's funky? For the same reason the Flyers likely took Umberger for Hartnell, I could see the Kings doing the same kind of thing with Richards, where you take a lesser player with a shorter contract, tough financial terms, and move him

I personally don't think Richards has much left -- others disagree -- and I don't think the Flyers would benefit long term at all, but I'll be honest and say even with where I think he is as a player today, he's got more left in the tank than Umberger

Sad, to me, how Umberger just appears to have deteriorated so quickly -- it's one thing to slow down gradually, but where he is now is just tough to watch

Does Vinny fit on the Kings any better than he does here though?

Richards would be HUGE upgrade, the hard part is getting rid of Umberger which I think it may be easier to walk on water than do that.
- 3flyerkids

He just looks done. It happens, where guys just decline so rapidly, they're done

Does Vinny fit on the Kings any better than he does here though?
- hereticpride

Well...that's the question. If you think Vinny can still score, and you think you have the wingers to play with him, maybe he does.

The Kings don't necessarily need another checking center, because Kopitar and Stoll can handle the heavy lifting and Carter's a pretty decent defensive center

Really, the key numbers are "4.5" and "5.75" -- that 1.25 in cap savings the Kings would get, with where they are now, has to be something they'd be interested in, though they certainly don't have to do a deal with the Flyers and the Flyers don't have to be interested, and you still have Vinny's NMC

Well...that's the question. If you think Vinny can still score, and you think you have the wingers to play with him, maybe he does.

The Kings don't necessarily need another checking center, because Kopitar and Stoll can handle the heavy lifting and Carter's a pretty decent defensive center

Really, the key numbers are "4.5" and "5.75" -- that 1.25 in cap savings the Kings would get, with where they are now, has to be something they'd be interested in, though they certainly don't have to do a deal with the Flyers and the Flyers don't have to be interested, and you still have Vinny's NMC
- AllInForFlyers

The other thing, wasn't Vinny only interested in playing on the East coast?

The deal would probably have to involve Umberger then, unless it's some sort of multi player deal.

Well...that's the question. If you think Vinny can still score, and you think you have the wingers to play with him, maybe he does.

The Kings don't necessarily need another checking center, because Kopitar and Stoll can handle the heavy lifting and Carter's a pretty decent defensive center

Really, the key numbers are "4.5" and "5.75" -- that 1.25 in cap savings the Kings would get, with where they are now, has to be something they'd be interested in, though they certainly don't have to do a deal with the Flyers and the Flyers don't have to be interested, and you still have Vinny's NMC
- AllInForFlyers

Flyers would still have to jiggle it a bit. That's why I suggested adding Coburn & Regher to a deal. Gives LA a needed defenseman with Voynov & Martinez out and balances the cash out

He just looks done. It happens, where guys just decline so rapidly, they're done
- AllInForFlyers

He is no where near the player he was and his contract is scary long.
He does bring leadership which is what this team needs more of.
Umberger or Vinny would have to be a part of deal and I would define Umberger as a player who is " well done"

someone please tell me how the packers receivers are so wide open

He is no where near the player he was and his contract is scary long.
He does bring leadership which is what this team needs more of.
Umberger or Vinny would have to be a part of deal and I would define Umberger as a player who is " well done"
- 3flyerkids

Yes -- that's who I was talking about, though I realize I wasn't being very clear. I was referring to Umberger.

someone please tell me how the packers receivers are so wide open
- 2Real