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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
Homie's assessment of Myers' trade value is probably correct. He probably could land a second line winger. That's probably all another team would (and should) give up for him right now. He's been good, not great. However, a 2nd line winger does next to nothing for this team right now. They're better off keeping him.
- buffalofan19

coho IMO should be the scapegoat

followed closely by staff and stewart

SABRES 89
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Nov 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
Homie's assessment of Myers' trade value is probably correct. He probably could land a second line winger. That's probably all another team would (and should) give up for him right now. He's been good, not great. However, a 2nd line winger does next to nothing for this team right now. They're better off keeping him.
- buffalofan19

You could get Eberle for him, the Oilers would do that all day long.
SABRES 89
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Nov 18 @ 2:45 PM ET

- homiedclown

Did we get Olli?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
New topic. Assuming the NYI and STL picks are outside of the top 10, and Murray goes the rote of trading them for proven NHL talent.

Who/what should we target?

- ImThatGuy

islanders are not far from being outside the playoffs


my guess is with the blues pick, sabres second rd pick and islanders pick they target a winger, a d man and a goalie
Maximum Signal
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Nov 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
60 outside today
- SABRES 89


Just shut it ! Or I am sending you a lifetime supply of glue !


HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
doughty, also 24 has 37 points a plus 18 and wins the cup
in an off year

- homiedclown


My point is that a guy that gets a lot of points isn't the be all end all either. I'd take Doughty over those other 2 any day. He scores, he's good in his own end, and he plays a physical game.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
You could get Eberle for him, the Oilers would do that all day long.
- SABRES 89



If that were the case, and that offer were really on the table, we'd have heard about it by now, from somewhere (i.e. Dreger, MacKenzie, etc.). I'm not saying that Murray would have taken it, but an offer like that doesn't go undetected. In today's day and age, someone would open their big mouth.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
Did we get Olli?
- SABRES 89

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 18 @ 2:48 PM ET
My point is that a guy that gets a lot of points isn't the be all end all either. I'd take Doughty over those other 2 any day. He scores, he's good in his own end, and he plays a physical game.
- HonkFortheGoose

karlsson is the type of player that gets your team to making the playoffs, kind of like soupy was here

doughty is the type of player that lets you compete for cups

SABRES 89
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Nov 18 @ 2:48 PM ET

- homiedclown

Stripes77
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Nov 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
How are my snow buried Buffalo friends doing?

My house is under 40 inches of snow right now so says my tenant.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
Funny observation, the people that want Myers gone are the same people that were convinced Bennett was going to be the pick.

Not just Gil, but Irish and a few others. I really think it has everything to do with the fact that Myers doesn't beat people up and he's resented for that. People obsessed with toughness and grit and disregard skill.
SABRES 89
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Nov 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
If that were the case, and that offer were really on the table, we'd have heard about it by now, from somewhere (i.e. Dreger, MacKenzie, etc.). I'm not saying that Murray would have taken it, but an offer like that doesn't go undetected. In today's day and age, someone would open their big mouth.
- buffalofan19

I'm not saying the deal waa talked about or mentioned but IMO Myers is worth Eberle and IMO the Oilers would do that deal.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
Some Bills players having fun with the snow

http://www.washingtonpost...wing-up-to-tuesdays-game/
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Nov 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
On this team?

Jesus Christ. We have had games with 10 shots on goal. And our defensemen who are constantly being pinned in their own end with no support should be all-stars?

I have heard it all

- sbroads24


How are the defensemen innocent in all this? They are part of the problem. That whole team is a train wreck in their own zone.

Has Myers been bad? No. But even all-star players shine on bad teams.


SABRES 89
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Nov 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
Just shut it ! Or I am sending you a lifetime supply of glue !



- Maximum Signal

Maximum Signal
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Nov 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
How are my snow buried Buffalo friends doing?

My house is under 40 inches of snow right now so says my tenant.

- Stripes77


Have gotten squat near the airport . The South towns are getting slammed . At least the ski areas are happy !
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Nov 18 @ 2:52 PM ET
Funny observation, the people that want Myers gone are the same people that were convinced Bennett was going to be the pick.

Not just Gil, but Irish and a few others. I really think it has everything to do with the fact that Myers doesn't beat people up and he's resented for that. People obsessed with toughness and grit and disregard skill.

- sbroads24



buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
Have gotten squat near the airport . The South towns are getting slammed . At least the ski areas are happy !
- Maximum Signal



From what I hear, the Ski areas haven't got much yet, but should later tonight. The band has been staying in one spot for quite a while now.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
How are the defensemen innocent in all this? They are part of the problem. That whole team is a train wreck in their own zone.

Has Myers been bad? No. But even all-star players shine on bad teams.

- grand-magus

Not on this team. Even Erik Karlsson had Daniel Alfredsson or Jason Spezza to play with when he "elevated" the Sens to the playoffs.

Shea Weber had Ryan Suter and Roman Josi with him, now has Seth Jones.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
Homie's assessment of Myers' trade value is probably correct. He probably could land a second line winger. That's probably all another team would (and should) give up for him right now. He's been good, not great. However, a 2nd line winger does next to nothing for this team right now. They're better off keeping him.
- buffalofan19


You know, you could have just said this on page 4.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 18 @ 2:55 PM ET
How are the defensemen innocent in all this? They are part of the problem. That whole team is a train wreck in their own zone.

Has Myers been bad? No. But even all-star players shine on bad teams.

- grand-magus



This. If you have to say a player "would be better if he had x", or "if he didn't have y", it means that he's a good player, not a great one 99 times out of 100.
gerbe42
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.10.2011

Nov 18 @ 2:59 PM ET
How are my snow buried Buffalo friends doing?

My house is under 40 inches of snow right now so says my tenant.

- Stripes77

over 50 here for sure
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 18 @ 3:00 PM ET
You know, you could have just said this on page 4.
- TheSabresTaco

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 18 @ 3:00 PM ET
This. If you have to say a player "would be better if he had x", or "if he didn't have y", it means that he's a good player, not a great one 99 times out of 100.
- buffalofan19

Yet there are examples of "All star" players being buried by sub par teams every season.

Mark Giordano was just a decent player for years while the Flames struggled, now at 31 he's going to be a Norris candidate, did he just all of the sudden get it at 30? Or did being stuck on a losing franchise make a really good player lose value?

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