Rinaldo has been the least of our worries. One of the few players you don't have to worry about effort each night. If more guys with better skill did that this team would be competing better
- J35Bacher

He's already -6 in very limited minutes against weak competition. That's a worry.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...lusMinus&viewName=summary

http://www.behindthenet.c...+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67#

I agree they didn't expect Umberger to be better than Hartnell, but I do think they felt getting Umberger was better than getting nothing at all (which, if we had to dump the contract, I would've preferred at this point). Speaking just to Hartnell's trade value, I think they could've done better, but instead it looks as though they jumped on their first chance to "get rid of the problem".

Hartnell undoubtedly has his warts, but the reasoning (which I think you're probably right about) is mean and weak.
- BulliesPhan87

Honestly, I don't have enough information to know that. They were taking on a potential problem in return. I think that Hextall is a smart enough hockey guy, that if there was a better deal out there, he would've taken it. And I think it's possible that maybe the better deal was to simply keep Hartnell. I honestly think the culture change was, and is a big deal to Hextall and Berube.

Giroux out tomorrow and Thursday. No definitive timeline on return.

Giroux out tomorrow night. No definitive timeline on return.
- PLindbergh31

But Hextall said last night he was "fine" remember....

This organization and their injury updates are nothing but awful.

The difference is that Rinaldo is making less then 1M and is not a player that is looked to for leadership.
- MJL

oh i know. it really isnt a good legitimate comparison at all.

just the way you described it was dead on for rinaldo if we viewed it in a vacuum.

But Hextall said last night he was "fine" remember....

This organization and their injury updates are nothing but awful.
- Buzzo

No.... Every team handles injuries the same way the Flyers do.

oh i know. it really isnt a good legitimate comparison at all.

just the way you described it was dead on for rinaldo if we viewed it in a vacuum.
- stayinthefnnet

What's this we crap! I like Rinaldo.

Giroux out tomorrow and Thursday. No definitive timeline on return.
- PLindbergh31

Good he is pulling down the team Anchor if you ask me

But Hextall said last night he was "fine" remember....

This organization and their injury updates are nothing but awful.
- Buzzo

Well he was fine last night. Somewhere in between last night and today, he became not so fine.

No.... Every team handles injuries the same way the Flyers do.
- PLindbergh31

Yep

Giroux out tomorrow and Thursday. No definitive timeline on return.
- PLindbergh31

Oh.

Rinaldo has been the least of our worries. One of the few players you don't have to worry about effort each night. If more guys with better skill did that this team would be competing better
- J35Bacher

agree with the vast majority of this.

if everyone played as hard as he did, the flyers would for sure be better.

and i would never say rinaldo is the one thing holding the team back from being great. i dont think he has much talent to speak of whatsoever, but it would be foolish to look at one player on the fourth line and say that he is the issue. however, i just dont think he deserves to have his name written into an NHL lineup with pen.

you dont look at a car with a flat tire and go damn, if only the cd player wasnt broken, it would surely run great. but at the same time, you dont need to keep the cd player in such a state of repair forever, either.

Oh.
- NickTheKid87

Other then that he's fine.

What's this we crap! I like Rinaldo.
- MJL

haha i know you do.

but come on, you cant tell me that if we took that little snippet i snatched and bolded out of context, and replaced hartnell with rinaldo, it doesnt ring dead on.

hahah giroux is injured bring on mcdavid

some dope dropped giroux in one of my leagues as the news was announced! plz let me get him!

hahah giroux is injured bring on mcdavid
- 2Real

What are you talking about? Giroux isn't injured.

Philadelphia Flyers @NHLFlyers
Claude Giroux was evaluated by team doctors tonight and he is fine, according to #Flyers GM Ron Hextall.

haha i know you do.

but come on, you cant tell me that if we took that little snippet i snatched and bolded out of context, and replaced hartnell with rinaldo, it doesnt ring dead on.
- stayinthefnnet

I question the hockey IQ that Rinaldo has. I don't expect him to become that 4th line veteran that is always in the right spot, and always makes the right play. But I don't agree that he doesn't have any talent. He's made himself into an NHL player, so he's doing something right.

I have a sense of deja vue here. Haven't we had this conversation before?

Well it's time for VL to step up in Girouxs absence , man how many times have we heard or said that...

I question the hockey IQ that Rinaldo has. I don't expect him to become that 4th line veteran that is always in the right spot, and always makes the right play. But I don't agree that he doesn't have any talent. He's made himself into an NHL player, so he's doing something right.

I have a sense of deja vue here. Haven't we had this conversation before?
- MJL

i mean talent and nhl talent are 2 different things. i love making fun of the guy, but im sure if i was playing against him at a local rink and i didnt know who he was he would leave me absolutely in the dust.

and as far as your last part, i mean that could apply to literally 99 percent of all discussion on here

Well it's time for VL to step up in Girouxs absence , man how many times have we heard or said that...
- Buzzo

Eskin says Giroux hit in the foot with shot at practice. Hope he went to the same X-ray center Coburn went to.

So Giroux has an ankle injury, per Panotch. Curious that Schenn was moved to center, when in the preseason Berube refused to move him to center. Does that mean G is out for more than a couple games?
- TheGreat28

Lindros top-line center Thursday night.

What are you talking about? Giroux isn't injured.

Philadelphia Flyers @NHLFlyers
Claude Giroux was evaluated by team doctors tonight and he is fine, according to #Flyers GM Ron Hextall.
- PLindbergh31

i just got a text from the NHL saying he's out with an LBI

i just got a text from the NHL saying he's out with an LBI
- 2Real

It's incorrect. Hextall said he's fine.

Giroux out tomorrow and Thursday. No definitive timeline on return.
- PLindbergh31

This (frank)ing season is already really testing me