It's funny that Leafs fans keep telling us how awesome their goalie with the .750 sv% tonight is the guy that will fix our goalie problems.

The only way tonight can get any better is if Calgary loses to Anaheim 8-0

It's funny that Leafs fans keep telling us how awesome their goalie with the .750 sv% tonight is the guy that will fix our goalie problems.

The only way tonight can get any better is if Calgary loses to Anaheim 8-0
- Horseguts

You know its bad when ever Gardiner Express says it's time to blow things up. That guy can spin even the worst losses into something positive about the Leafs.

Our Left D suck right now, so he'd be another middle depth guy right now, but long term would be a waste of money for us.

XXXX-Fayne
Ference-Petry
Marincin-Schultz

That's what I see the defense as next year. Methot likely isn't ever going to be that #1 guy.
- Morris

Would not surprise me one bit to see Nurse up full time next year- and Marincin/Klefbom

I saw the stupidest thing today... it was about hockey right, and it was a newspaper artical. Basically it was stating that hockey fans "crave blood" because only 15,000 fans showed up at a Columbus vs Ottawa game while 20,000 showed up at an Ottawa vs Toronto game.

I'll take a picture if it tomorrow and show you guys, it'll give ya guys a laugh
- Oilers4Life14

I don't think that's far off. I watch Boston vs MTL/TOR/VAN games for that reason.

and Kadri/Bozak still >>RNH
- TheNugeIsHuge

I can't wait till they start trading away assets and the tank label can be thrown at them

And I still wouldn't trade Reimer for yak...Dreger what a knob goblin
- DDM-Coga

I think he may have hit his head a year or two ago and has never recovered.

You know its bad when ever Gardiner Express says it's time to blow things up. That guy can spin even the worst losses into something positive about the Leafs.
- Nucker101

Did he say that? That's awesome! I'd go into the Leafs thread but it would result in a ban with the first post.

I can't wait till they start trading away assets and the tank label can be thrown at them
- DDM-Coga

I told them to hire Tambellini so he could use his wizard powers to draft McDavid 1st overall but some guy seemed to think that was a stupid idea.

You know its bad when ever Gardiner Express says it's time to blow things up. That guy can spin even the worst losses into something positive about the Leafs.
- Nucker101

Where's iggy tonight, he must be in heaven

We never talk about Fleury, is he untouchable, and if he isn't, what would we have to give up?
- Oilers4Life14

(frank) he would be little to no improvement on this team...

(frank) he would be little to no improvement on this team...
- saskoil21

Sarcasm or serious?

I don't think that's far off. I watch Boston vs MTL/TOR/VAN games for that reason.
- Dangles13

Hmmph. I mean Columbus vs Ottawa games are born as poop. No rivalry whatsoever, but Toronto vs Ottawa is a massive rivalry. Plus there are a lot more Toronto fans in Ottawa.

Hmmph. I mean Columbus vs Ottawa games are born as poop. No rivalry whatsoever, but Toronto vs Ottawa is a massive rivalry. Plus there are a lot more Toronto fans in Ottawa.
- Oilers4Life14

The comparison was bad on their part but people love violence, sex and just about every other taboo thing.

I agree with this... the dude turns over the puck- cant hit sweet (frank) all in the dzone and gaffes in the coverage consistently... not sure other than jumping up in the play as a fwd he brings... his (frank)ing wrist shots get blocked all the time or he bobbles at the (frank)ing blue line
- saskoil21

I guess the only thing I'll say is that Schultz' problems are the problems inherent in the high-risk high-reward skillset of an offensive dman. There are a fair number of offensive dmen who are better than him defensively, but there aren't actually many who are better than him defensively at his age, and there are many dmen his age just as bad defensively but with little puck moving skill/confidence.

So I hesitate to present criticisms about Schultz that aren't simply criticisms that apply to all offensive dmen. Because unless you're arguing all teams would be better off without any offensive dmen, it seems sort of narrow.

If that's what you are arguing, than of course I disagree for a variety of reasons.

Sarcasm or serious?
- Dangles13

For his price via trade no to mention his cap hit- people would be wanting to kill him as we have terrible back end and how he gambles in games for Pittsburgh we would regret it - we don't have the defense to support his game IMO

I guess the only thing I'll say is that Schultz' problems are the problems inherent in the high-risk high-reward skillset of an offensive dman. There are a fair number of offensive dmen who are better than him defensively, but there aren't actually many who are better than him defensively at his age, and there are many dmen his age just as bad defensively but with little puck moving skill/confidence.

So I hesitate to present criticisms about Schultz that aren't simply criticisms that apply to all offensive dmen. Because unless you're arguing all teams would be better off without any offensive dmen, it seems sort of narrow.

If that's what you are arguing, than of course I disagree for a variety of reasons.
- Morris

With the proper partner he may just blossom to the point where is not public enemy #1.

I guess the only thing I'll say is that Schultz' problems are the problems inherent in the high-risk high-reward skillset of an offensive dman. There are a fair number of offensive dmen who are better than him defensively, but there aren't actually many who are better than him defensively at his age, and there are many dmen his age just as bad defensively but with little puck moving skill/confidence.

So I hesitate to present criticisms about Schultz that aren't simply criticisms that apply to all offensive dmen. Because unless you're arguing all teams would be better off without any offensive dmen, it seems sort of narrow.

If that's what you are arguing, than of course I disagree for a variety of reasons.
- Morris

I will agree with you that we have no better dmen with his offensive abilities at present- but he does not have the defensive stalwart that can make up for his miscues- and that presents itself consistently in games

For his price via trade no to mention his cap hit- people would be wanting to kill him as we have terrible back end and how he gambles in games for Pittsburgh we would regret it - we don't have the defense to support his game IMO
- saskoil21

The price to acquire him would too high for sure. His cap hit is rather friendly though, only 5.7 mil.

Pittsburgh isn't exactly stacked on the back-end though. He has put up decent numbers in front of some porous d.

Our Left D suck right now, so he'd be another middle depth guy right now, but long term would be a waste of money for us.

XXXX-Fayne
Ference-Petry
Marincin-Schultz

That's what I see the defense as next year. Methot likely isn't ever going to be that #1 guy.
- Morris

If EDM swung Klefbom for (extended) Sekera, I'd be confident in

Sekera-Fayne
Ference-Petry
Marincin-Schultz

with Nurse soon making his way up

Would not surprise me one bit to see Nurse up full time next year- and Marincin/Klefbom
- saskoil21

Probably. That's my preference, but with any likelihood they'll move on from Petry and go with Ference, Nikitin, Schultz, Fayne, Klefbom, Nurse, and Marincin.

The Leafs thread is fantastic! All the fight is gone out of them and it's a great read. Now is the time for Iggy to make an appearance there.

The price to acquire him would too high for sure. His cap hit is rather friendly though, only 5.7 mil.

Pittsburgh isn't exactly stacked on the back-end though. He has put up decent numbers in front of some porous d.
- Dangles13

again tho its apples to oranges because our offense doesn't currently compare to Pittsburgh- fleury can be subpar and they still score enough goals to be in games and get a win...

The Leafs thread is fantastic! All the fight is gone out of them and it's a great read. Now is the time for Iggy to make an appearance there.
- Horseguts

It's full suicide watch

I will agree with you that we have no better dmen with his offensive abilities at present- but he does not have the defensive stalwart that can make up for his miscues- and that presents itself consistently in games
- saskoil21

That's a fair point.

In the go-ahead, I'd like to see him with Ference, against weaker competition. Hopefully he'll improve more and more and by the time Nurse steps in as a solid defensive D, Justin will be a little more rounded even if he never becomes a two-way guy.

Reimer at sub .900 SV% right now.

Just recall Perron+Petry for him