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saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Nov 18 @ 10:46 PM ET
Reimer at sub .900 SV% right now.

Just recall Perron+Petry for him

- TheNugeIsHuge


saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Nov 18 @ 10:46 PM ET
That's a fair point.

In the go-ahead, I'd like to see him with Ference, against weaker competition. Hopefully he'll improve more and more and by the time Nurse steps in as a solid defensive D, Justin will be a little more rounded even if he never becomes a two-way guy.

- Morris


I hope so...
Horseguts
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.22.2009

Nov 18 @ 10:47 PM ET
It's full suicide watch
- DDM-Coga


They're not sure who to blame for the losses so they're just attacking all the players and management.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Nov 18 @ 10:50 PM ET
They're not sure who to blame for the losses so they're just attacking all the players and management.
- Horseguts


where the heck is Iggy, this is his christmas
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Nov 18 @ 10:50 PM ET
I guess the only thing I'll say is that Schultz' problems are the problems inherent in the high-risk high-reward skillset of an offensive dman. There are a fair number of offensive dmen who are better than him defensively, but there aren't actually many who are better than him defensively at his age, and there are many dmen his age just as bad defensively but with little puck moving skill/confidence.

So I hesitate to present criticisms about Schultz that aren't simply criticisms that apply to all offensive dmen. Because unless you're arguing all teams would be better off without any offensive dmen, it seems sort of narrow.

If that's what you are arguing, than of course I disagree for a variety of reasons.

- Morris


Jultz has fewer hits than any other Dman in the top 40 points-wise this year . He's also in the bottom third for SOG (and he's gt a whopping 8 points while riding unbelievably slanted Ozone starts). He doesn't have a slap shot, and every other team knows it.

He might get better defensively (position), but he has no innate ability to throw the body, and I think it'll always be something he'll hesitate to do, and therefore do it badly if he does.

I don't get the love for this guy, but then again I don't get the hate for Petry.




Horseguts
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.22.2009

Nov 18 @ 10:51 PM ET
where the heck is Iggy, this is his christmas
- DDM-Coga


Yeti probably prebanned him as a precaution.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Nov 18 @ 10:54 PM ET
Yeti probably prebanned him as a precaution.
- Horseguts


Hes going to be busy in that thread tonight, its like we can get away with whatever we want in here
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 18 @ 10:54 PM ET
That's a fair point.

In the go-ahead, I'd like to see him with Ference, against weaker competition. Hopefully he'll improve more and more and by the time Nurse steps in as a solid defensive D, Justin will be a little more rounded even if he never becomes a two-way guy.

- Morris


Ference is just looking better now that he's with a real partner (Petry). I'd put Marincin with him
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 18 @ 10:57 PM ET
The price to acquire him would too high for sure. His cap hit is rather friendly though, only 5.7 mil.

Pittsburgh isn't exactly stacked on the back-end though. He has put up decent numbers in front of some porous d.

- Dangles13

Maata and Letang say hi



While Pittsburgh doesn't have an intimidating defense, we do have guys who can move the puck out of the zone either by skating or pass.


That's one thin I've noticed about the Oilers, even dumping the puck out it either gets blocked or iced.

As for Fleury, he'd be an upgrade for you, but not by much. He isn't steady enough (maybe calm enough is a better phrase) for a team without a veteran defense.
Horseguts
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.22.2009

Nov 18 @ 10:57 PM ET
Hes going to be busy in that thread tonight, its like we can get away with whatever we want in here
- DDM-Coga


I really want to post in there but I am holding back, it will result in a ban so I am better off just staying here. You're right though, it's fair game here to do what you want.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 18 @ 10:58 PM ET
Jultz has fewer hits than any other Dman in the top 40 points-wise this year . He's also in the bottom third for SOG (and he's gt a whopping 8 points while riding unbelievably slanted Ozone starts). He doesn't have a slap shot, and every other team knows it.

He might get better defensively (position), but he has no innate ability to throw the body, and I think it'll always be something he'll hesitate to do, and therefore do it badly if he does.

I don't get the love for this guy, but then again I don't get the hate for Petry.

- BigDre

I don't get the hate for Petry either.

I don't love Schultz, but I think a lot of people's dislike about his game stems in part from the fact that management seems to adore him and call him a future Norris candidate, and that they're likely going to let Petry walk and give the money he ought to be getting to Justin.

His shot is bad for an offensive dman, and in fact we need to get someone with a better shot. Whether it's overplaying Nikitin or playing Hunt at all, we're hampered by his lack of shot.

On the other hand, he sneaks into the slot better than many dmen in the league, and in when he does it successfully it's pretty hard to stop. I don't think he can make a living on it, but hopefully the threat of that will keep opposing players at bay more often and give him the opportunity to shoot more from the point.

I think he's a useful, pedestrian, supporting player. He'll be increasingly useful if he continues to progress, but the most annoying thing about Schultz to me by far is still that MacT swoons over him, and not anything he's doing or not doing on the ice.
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 18 @ 10:58 PM ET
Hes going to be busy in that thread tonight, its like we can get away with whatever we want in here
- DDM-Coga

Break out the Boobies!!!!
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Nov 18 @ 10:59 PM ET
12-6 Islanders! Oilers get in on this and lets get that Stanley cup rematch.
Horseguts
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.22.2009

Nov 18 @ 10:59 PM ET
Break out the Boobies!!!!
- batjester


Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 18 @ 10:59 PM ET
Ference is just looking better now that he's with a real partner (Petry). I'd put Marincin with him
- TheNugeIsHuge

Yeah, you may be right.

PS, with any luck they'll have read this Ference-Petry situation completely assbackwards: "Petry looks like he's finally settling down. I guess he just needed Ference to show him the ropes. We should re-sign him"
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 18 @ 11:01 PM ET
I don't get the hate for Petry either.

I don't love Schultz, but I think a lot of people's dislike about his game stems in part from the fact that management seems to adore him and call him a future Norris candidate, and that they're likely going to let Petry walk and give the money he ought to be getting to Justin.

His shot is bad for an offensive dman, and in fact we need to get someone with a better shot. Whether it's overplaying Nikitin or playing Hunt at all, we're hampered by his lack of shot.

On the other hand, he sneaks into the slot better than many dmen in the league, and in when he does it successfully it's pretty hard to stop. I don't think he can make a living on it, but hopefully the threat of that will keep opposing players at bay more often and give him the opportunity to shoot more from the point.

I think he's a useful, pedestrian, supporting player. He'll be increasingly useful if he continues to progress, but the most annoying thing about Schultz to me by far is still that MacT swoons over him, and not anything he's doing or not doing on the ice.

- Morris

I think he needs a mentor. Just another reason I think Yandle would be a good fit here.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 18 @ 11:01 PM ET
12-6 Islanders! Oilers get in on this and lets get that Stanley cup rematch.
- mighty13duck

yeah, cause the real thing that's been holding the franchise back is the lack of an interesting Stanley Cup opponent
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Nov 18 @ 11:02 PM ET
yeah, cause the real thing that's been holding the franchise back is the lack of an interesting Stanley Cup opponent
- Morris

yes
Horseguts
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.22.2009

Nov 18 @ 11:02 PM ET


That's for you Ymen
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 18 @ 11:03 PM ET
Off to peruse the Leafs thread. If I don't come back #freebatjester
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 18 @ 11:05 PM ET
I think he needs a mentor. Just another reason I think Yandle would be a good fit here.
- batjester

We probably couldn't get away with ever playing them together at ES if that's what you mean, but yes I'm into Yandle.

- He's a left shot and plays left D
- He's got an excellent shot.
- He's got more a mean streak than he's given credit for
- He's a good enough skater that he's able to make up for defensive inability better than advertised.
- He can single-handedly change the fortunes of a teams powerplay.

Plus Arizona is cash-strapped, could use some offensive punch, and Yandle is arguably underutilized there. He's a really really intriguing candidate to improve our D.
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Nov 18 @ 11:12 PM ET
What up b!tchs... Just got back from the pats-oil kings game.... It was a pretty good show. Pats one 5-4 in overtime... Whoot whoot...
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Nov 18 @ 11:14 PM ET
What up b!tchs... Just got back from the pats-oil kings game.... It was a pretty good show. Pats one 5-4 in overtime... Whoot whoot...
- spitfire187

Did you see the Leafs - Preds score?
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Nov 18 @ 11:19 PM ET
Did you see the Leafs - Preds score?
- YzermanIsTheMan

Nope, just got home...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 18 @ 11:20 PM ET
Nope, just got home...
- spitfire187


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