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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:22 AM ET
Jonathan Quick and his two stanley cup championships say hi. Before last season Hank hadn't made it to the final dance.
- Hextall271

Were you here for the eli manning debate?

Also hank has a gold and silver medal. Quick has nothing.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:23 AM ET
He is the best goalie in the league and thats not debatable
- rangerdanger94


Well, that is debatable.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:23 AM ET
It absolutely is. Quick is better. Hands down.
- GOA88


Quick has a better team around him (not better than the Panthers though), but one thing is for sure, the topic IS debateable.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 21 @ 8:24 AM ET
Yeah, I'm sure the Kings wish they had him instead of Quick. Go back to your own blog before you embarrass yourself even more.



I thought it was pretty bad. They ended up with both forwards on the right side because VandeVelde didn't rotate over to the left as Umberger pressured the puck.

And why did VdV get more PK time than the superior Bellemare?

- Feanor


The Flyers played a very good overall game & got killed by fundamental breakdowns. Umberger blew coverage on the first goal, and Emery was slow to get across. VandeVelde left his side of the ice and that opened the path for the second goal.

MacDonald tried to do too much with the puck, instead of the smart, simple play, and then Luke Schenn lost his guy. Simple, routine Hockey 101 stuff.

Give credit to the Wild, and especially Kuemper. They did a good job defensively on a night where they got outplayed. Usually they dictate the pace, and the Flyers didn't let them last night.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:24 AM ET
Were you here for the eli manning debate?

Also hank has a gold and silver medal. Quick has nothing.

- rangerdanger94


Yes, but to say that Quick has nothing is BS. Two cups and a Conn Smythe don't count??? please.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:24 AM ET
Laughton moved his feet and showed some hustle which creates chances. I guess when have a player like that on your line it will help even a Zombie look some what alive ( Umberger)
There is no way Laughton should be taken out of this lineup
IMO... Much better player than RJ Hamburglar

- 3flyerkids


Umberger still needs to come out of this lineup, asap
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:24 AM ET
I have to question the decision to put 2 dmen, one with a sore shoulder and one playing his first game in weeks on the ice protecting a lead in the last minute of a game. I also have to question the decision to have Grossmann on the ice with the top line with under 7 minutes left in a game you are trailing.
- BiggE



I do too. Schultz should have been out there
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:25 AM ET
It absolutely is. Quick is better. Hands down.
- GOA88

In the same way eli manning is better than dan marino, sure
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 21 @ 8:26 AM ET
I have to question the decision to put 2 dmen, one with a sore shoulder and one playing his first game in weeks on the ice protecting a lead in the last minute of a game. I also have to question the decision to have Grossmann on the ice with the top line with under 7 minutes left in a game you are trailing.
- BiggE


There were some curious usage patterns. But that's commonplace now
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:26 AM ET
78 was in the box for 2 min, that may have done it?
- KaKa_


Good point. I am just sick of VdV being on the team. He belongs in the AHL.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:28 AM ET
Quick has a better team around him (not better than the Panthers though), but one thing is for sure, the topic IS debateable.
- Hextall271

The thing about the King is he always has a great shot blocking defense in front of him. He rarely is forced to make big stops. Not that he cant make them but his numbers struggle badly when his defense is not saving the puck for him. He is overrated. IMO. Good goalie. Better than most, but not even in the top 3.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:28 AM ET
In the same way eli manning is better than dan marino, sure
- rangerdanger94

who cares about Manning, Marino, Lundquist, or Quick
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:28 AM ET
Moral victories are for failures
- rangerdanger94


You 're awfully cocky for being a fan of team that's won all of one championship since 1940. The Rags aren't exactly the standard bearer of NHL success.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:29 AM ET
I have to question the decision to put 2 dmen, one with a sore shoulder and one playing his first game in weeks on the ice protecting a lead in the last minute of a game. I also have to question the decision to have Grossmann on the ice with the top line with under 7 minutes left in a game you are trailing.
- BiggE



Who is Grossmann's partner? Is there a chance that with the team down a goal, that they're going to be taking some chances, and need a good defensive defenseman that is good at breaking up plays, in case that leads to some good chances against? Grossmann is paired with Striet. You want Streit out there in that situation. Schenn and MacDonald overall, played well. No reason why you can't have them out there. This is just another case of pretty much questioning anything and everything.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:29 AM ET
In the same way eli manning is better than dan marino, sure
- rangerdanger94

You just lost this debate. Goodbye sir
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:29 AM ET
The thing about the King is he always has a great shot blocking defense in front of him. He rarely is forced to make big stops. Not that he cant make them but his numbers struggle badly when his defense is not saving the puck for him. He is overrated. IMO. Good goalie. Better than most, but not even in the top 3.
- GOA88

Lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:29 AM ET
There were some curious usage patterns. But that's commonplace now
- Jsaquella


All the usage patterns get criticized. That is pretty much commonplace. Nothing wrong with the coaching in that game.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:29 AM ET
Umberger still needs to come out of this lineup, asap
- BiggE

He was directly responsible for the 1st goal. Left his man wide open.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:30 AM ET
Lol
- rangerdanger94

Well, how is he doing now with weak defense??? Thought so
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:30 AM ET
Umberger still needs to come out of this lineup, asap
- BiggE


Umberger played a decent game last night. I want to see him play his way out of it. And I think that he can.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Nov 21 @ 8:31 AM ET
Umberger played a decent game last night. I want to see him play his way out of it. And I think that he can.
- MJL

Already has. They are playing him because his contract
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:31 AM ET
He was directly responsible for the 1st goal. Left his man wide open.
- GOA88


Not sure about that. And it's on the PK. It's not man on man coverage.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:31 AM ET
There were some curious usage patterns. But that's commonplace now
- Jsaquella


Yet another reason I've grown tired of Berube
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 21 @ 8:31 AM ET
Well, how is he doing now with weak defense??? Thought so
- GOA88

Really well actually
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:31 AM ET
Already has. They are playing him because his contract
- GOA88


Nothing to do with his contract.
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