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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 9:38 PM ET
True. My recent rants and persistant efforts to pursue trading Hall and criticism of MacTaint and his tiny little raisin balls is putting me dangerously close to Alex-Oil/SpoiledbyOil and Needsmorehorsecock levels of annoying.
- Jeropotato

Nah.
You're entitled.

Youre still seeing the big picture, and not neccasarily blaming one single thing because it's any number of problems. And probably all of them combined into one big cluster fuk. But U just want changes. And that makes sense.

I'm pissed and so over it too. I want a move ASAP. But I think now's the time where losing our head will completely fuk us.

I'm convinced Mact is furiously trying to make a deal. But the fact that a deal hasn't been made is one of two things;
He hasn't been offered fair value
And/or
Is expecting too much.

If it's the first, I'm glad he's actually trying to make a prudent move instead of panicking.
If it's the second, he'll come down to earth and make a deal once it's apparent no one is going to give him what he wants.
But trying to get that value is better than accepting less off the hop.
nanook82
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Nov 22 @ 9:38 PM ET
I'm ok with losing a trade 'talent wise' or actual output, as long as we improve in the areas we need.


It's not the sexiest trade by any means, but a healthy coburn helps us more than yakupov does right now for example.
Would it hurt to see yaks pot 35 next year? Maybe. But if we had a solid dcore and were in the hunt for the playoffs with a reasonable top pairing of petry and coburn and lower minutes for Schultz and ference, plus some solid nhl experience for nurse/klefbom/marincin (plus another year closer to them being those true experienced impact defenders we hoped)
it's a solid deal for us

- hugefemale dog77

Agree 110%
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Nov 22 @ 9:39 PM ET
I'm ok with losing a trade 'talent wise' or actual output, as long as we improve in the areas we need.


It's not the sexiest trade by any means, but a healthy coburn helps us more than yakupov does right now for example.
Would it hurt to see yaks pot 35 next year? Maybe. But if we had a solid dcore and were in the hunt for the playoffs with a reasonable top pairing of petry and coburn and lower minutes for Schultz and ference, plus some solid nhl experience for nurse/klefbom/marincin (plus another year closer to them being those true experienced impact defenders we hoped)
it's a solid deal for us

- hugefemale dog77

Is that the rumoured deal? I don't know, I think Philly would have to add a little bit, like Matt Read, but I would probably do it.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 9:42 PM ET
Is that the rumoured deal? I don't know, I think Philly would have to add a little bit, like Matt Read, but I would probably do it.
- Jeropotato

No.

Ek just mentioned coburn.

No names were mentioned on our side.
Just a hypothetical where we lose a kid with high potential for a guy that has some drawbacks for different reasons. Some fans wouldn't like it if it happened. And that's kinda the point.

It's no secret we've liked coburn for ages, but us being any closer to acquiring him is all guesswork
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Nov 22 @ 9:45 PM ET
Build around Hall unfortunately. He should be wearing the C and telling management what we need.
Ebs and Yak can both go for immediate team needs. Dangle them out there and add draft picks. I could care less if they go out and put up 60/70 point seasons with their new team.

If SJ is blowing things up.... do whatever it takes to get Big Joe. Move Nuge down to the 2nd line. Imagine Joe teaching Nuge/Leon how to be a complete Centre/Pro, etc.

Something needs to happen because this team just doesn't have it. I'm tired of the "process"

- nanook82

Why can't we switch gears and build around Nuge? I'm not saying we should trade or we must trade Hall but why is Hall, our greatest trade chip, off limits? What's the worst that will happen? We already know he'll be a PPG player for the next 10 or more seasons, how much worse can we get? Demand a high price and see what we get.

Tell me if this does not make us a better team.
To columbus: Hall
To Edmonton: Dubinski, Jenner and Murray .
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Nov 22 @ 9:49 PM ET
Not that Lowetide is plugged in or anything but he and his co-host today were saying he expects a deal with Philly or Columbus in a week.

Well. Anyway. Apparently the Jackets could use a winger.

Hypothetically if it is Eberle being dangled, I wonder how severe or hampering that six million dollar contract is considered. Poop I wonder if a guy like Ebs at that price even garners interest in the here and now.

Jesus-Santa, our upcoming schedule is nasty. The first 19 were very favorable for an above .500 record.

Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 22 @ 9:51 PM ET
Why can't we switch gears and build around Nuge? I'm not saying we should trade or we must trade Hall but why is Hall, our greatest trade chip, off limits? What's the worst that will happen? We already know he'll be a PPG player for the next 10 or more seasons, how much worse can we get? Demand a high price and see what we get.

Tell me if this does not make us a better team.
To columbus: Hall
To Edmonton: Dubinski, Jenner and Murray .

- Jeropotato


I think we could get more for Hall :/
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Nov 22 @ 9:53 PM ET
I think we could get more for Hall :/
- Oilers4Life14

Bedtime is sneaking up...

I know it's not a school night but it is your homework done?
FlamesNOTLames
Calgary Flames
Location: Strathmore, AB
Joined: 11.09.2014

Nov 22 @ 9:53 PM ET
I wonder if they fire EEKins after the Oilers lose tonight?
nanook82
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Nov 22 @ 9:53 PM ET
Not that Lowetide is plugged in or anything but he and his co-host today were saying he expects a deal with Philly or Columbus in a week.

Well. Anyway. Apparently the Jackets could use a winger.

Hypothetically if it is Eberle being dangled, I wonder how severe or hampering that six million dollar contract is considered. Poop I wonder if a guy like Ebs at that price even garners interest in the here and now.

Jesus-Santa, our upcoming schedule is nasty. The first 19 were very favorable for an above .500 record.

- Salvo

Did they mention any kind of return??
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 9:54 PM ET
I think we could get more for Hall :/
- Oilers4Life14

I don't agree.

That's a massive return.

In fact, I bet Cbj doesn't do it.
They love Jenner
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 22 @ 9:55 PM ET
Bedtime is sneaking up...

I know it's not a school night but it is your homework done?

- whipper334


Ya man. Special ed homework is all done.

And no bed time on weekend mother fuuuuuckkkkkkkkkkeerrrr
nanook82
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Nov 22 @ 9:55 PM ET
I wonder if they fire EEKins after the Oilers lose tonight?
- FlamesNOTLames

Hopefully right after San Jose announces the firing of Todd McLellan
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 9:55 PM ET
I wonder if they fire EEKins after the Oilers lose tonight?
- FlamesNOTLames

Not a lot of confidence going into this one
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 22 @ 9:56 PM ET
I don't agree.

That's a massive return.

In fact, I bet Cbj doesn't do it.
They love Jenner

- hugefemale dog77




I meant from another team, we could get something else.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Nov 22 @ 9:58 PM ET
I don't agree.

That's a massive return.

In fact, I bet Cbj doesn't do it.
They love Jenner

- hugefemale dog77

Possibly but if we could get a return like this shouldn't MacT entertain it? I think it makes us better today and for theft 7-10 years.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 9:59 PM ET
Possibly but if we could get a return like this shouldn't MacT entertain it? I think it makes us better today and for theft 7-10 years.
- Jeropotato

That's what I meant.

I'd hate to let hall go.
But for that package, I consider
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Nov 22 @ 9:59 PM ET


I meant from another team, we could get something else.

- Oilers4Life14

(frank) your dumb, you're missing the point.
Does that trade make us better today and I the future?
nanook82
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Nov 22 @ 10:00 PM ET
Why can't we switch gears and build around Nuge? I'm not saying we should trade or we must trade Hall but why is Hall, our greatest trade chip, off limits? What's the worst that will happen? We already know he'll be a PPG player for the next 10 or more seasons, how much worse can we get? Demand a high price and see what we get.

Tell me if this does not make us a better team.
To columbus: Hall
To Edmonton: Dubinski, Jenner and Murray .

- Jeropotato


Well if you put it that way, then nobody should be untouchable on this team. And you're right.... how much worse can it actually get??

This just in.... Buffalo ties Edm with 14 points :ash:

edit: I think CBJ would do that trade in a heartbeat.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Nov 22 @ 10:00 PM ET
That's what I meant.

I'd hate to let hall go.
But for that package, I consider

- hugefemale dog77

Why would hate to see Hall go? I don't care about any of our players.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 22 @ 10:02 PM ET
Possibly but if we could get a return like this shouldn't MacT entertain it? I think it makes us better today and for theft 7-10 years.
- Jeropotato


Okay, give trade ideas for these players

Eberle
Yakupov
2015 1st
2016 1st
Perron
Purcell

You can combine.
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Nov 22 @ 10:03 PM ET
I wonder if they fire EEKins after the Oilers lose tonight?
- FlamesNOTLames


Could happen.

I hate your handle.

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 10:03 PM ET
Why would hate to see Hall go? I don't care about any of our players.
- Jeropotato



I know

Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Nov 22 @ 10:04 PM ET
(frank) your dumb, you're missing the point.
Does that trade make us better today and I the future?

- Jeropotato


Yeah, it can, and probably would.

Oooorrrr it could go terribly wrong and Jenner, Dubinsky and Murray suffer career ending injuries

Nah, it would make us better though.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 22 @ 10:05 PM ET
Eberle + a solid pick/prospect for Anisimov and Tyutin?
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