Might be time for a coach like this

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- Dangles13

Glad someone in the organization has the balls to speak his mind.

Might be time for a coach like this

- Dangles13

The Oilers problem is part coaching and part lack of NHL caliber depth on the roster.
When Keith Aulie is in your top pairing you're in trouble.

I hate to say it but I'm now on the mcdavid train

Welcome to my world.... (frank) THE OILERS , (frank) MAC-T (non gay way), and most of all (frank) DARYL KATZ AND HIS DEMON SPAWN SON
- Reveen

All members of the Organization that need to (frank) off:
Kevin Lowe
Craig MacTavish
Scott Howson
Stu MacGreggor
Dallas Eakins
Craig Ramsey
Keith Acton
Taylor Hall
Ryan Nugent Hopkins
Jordan Eberle
Nail Yakupov
Justin Schultz
Andrew Ferrence
Marc Arcobello
Nikita nikitin
ben Scrivens
Victor Fasth
Mark Fayne
Leon Draisaitl
Luke Gazdic
Brad Hunt

http://video.oilers.nhl.c...console?id=678839&catid=4
- Dangles13

That sums everything up pretty well

It is right there in front of them, there's just more to it than can be done as swiftly as we would like. I mean it must be difficult to check off all those boxes, but (frank), can we start with one of them?
- Jeropotato

We're assuming it's easily done.
If this was the case, it would've been.

Let's not forget, it's Eakins and Mact that are on the hot seat to lose work. Not the players. They'll just go play on another team. At present is that even a punishment?

These irrational and illogical comments that Mact and Eakins are content, or have some conspiracy to give ice time to player a more than player b, are silly.
A logical argument can absolutely be made to play yakupov less. Or bench marincin. Or play nikitin. Or have ference as our captain, or stick with Fasth/scrivens instead of going after hiller or Harding. etc. Etc etc.

Agreeing with them is a whole other ball of wax, but IMO, despite what many of the frustrated fans say, these are far from out of the box decisions. they might be hasty and abit desperate, But not ludicrous. And hindsight is always easy.
I will say I'm confused with the Schultz love, but he is a talented offensive player with a lot of upside.

We don't actually know that Myers is available for anything
Less than a ridiculous overpay. And furthermore, if he was, I'm sure a deal would already be done.
Yandle? Phoenix isn't out of this thing yet. They've been playing better. Maybe they Arent ready to make a deal. Same goes for Cbj. Same for Winnipeg.
Is be willing to bet that the only team that is definitively willing to part with roster impact players at present is buffalo. But they've also accepted tanking this year, so have no Reason to just unload players unless they're happy with the return. They have no pressure to change things.

The Oilers problem is part coaching and part lack of NHL caliber depth on the roster.
When Keith Aulie is in your top pairing you're in trouble.
- Reveen

Just listening to Eakins defend Schultz is too much for me. Schultz plays like garbage and he's going to play 25 minutes tonight while Marincin and Petry will get 18.

All members of the Organization that need to (frank) off:
Kevin Lowe
Craig MacTavish
Scott Howson
Stu MacGreggor
Dallas Eakins
Craig Ramsey
Keith Acton
Taylor Hall
Ryan Nugent Hopkins
Jordan Eberle
Nail Yakupov
Justin Schultz
Andrew Ferrence
Marc Arcobello
Nikita nikitin
ben Scrivens
Victor Fasth
Mark Fayne
Leon Draisaitl
Luke Gazdic
Brad Hunt
- Jeropotato

Scott Howson actually brought a lot o good players into Columbus that's allowing them to have success...outside of injury of course.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he brought in the following players for them.

Ryan Johansen
Boone Jenner
Brandon Dubinsky
Sergei Bobrovsky
Artem Anisimov
Cam Atkinson
Jack Johnson
James Wisniewski
Ryan Murray
2013 first - (Kirby Rychel)

I hate to say it but I'm now on the mcdavid train
- Snagglepuss

Ummmm....what other (frank)ing choice have we got?

Here's the sad part. We're gonna be sitting here in a year or so with McDavid or Eichel and all this talent , more than any other team in the league, wondering why we still suck balls, and too afraid to trade any of it because God only knows why, and we'll look around the NHL baffled by the fact that we have more pure talent than LA, Chicago and all the other good teams and are looking at a 2016 lottery pick.

Talent - hard work, team play, fight, desire and willingness = the Edmonton Oilers.

Might be time for a coach like this

- Dangles13

The only way we'll get that sort of emotion from Eakins is if 3-4 Oilers squirt him with Gatorade.

We're assuming it's easily done.
If this was the case, it would've been.

Let's not forget, it's Eakins and Mact that are on the hot seat to lose work. Not the players. They'll just go play on another team. At present is that even a punishment?

These irrational and illogical comments that Mact and Eakins are content, or have some conspiracy to give ice time to player a more than player b, are silly.
A logical argument can absolutely be made to play yakupov less. Or bench marincin. Or play nikitin. Or have ference as our captain, or stick with Fasth/scrivens instead of going after hiller or Harding. etc. Etc etc.

Agreeing with them is a whole other ball of wax, but IMO, despite what many of the frustrated fans say, these are far from out of the box decisions. they might be hasty and abit desperate, But not ludicrous. And hindsight is always easy.
I will say I'm confused with the Schultz love, but he is a talented offensive player with a lot of upside.

We don't actually know that Myers is available for anything
Less than a ridiculous overpay. And furthermore, if he was, I'm sure a deal would already be done.
Yandle? Phoenix isn't out of this thing yet. They've been playing better. Maybe they Arent ready to make a deal. Same goes for Cbj. Same for Winnipeg.
Is be willing to bet that the only team that is definitively willing to part with roster impact players at present is buffalo. But they've also accepted tanking this year, so have no Reason to just unload players unless they're happy with the return. They have no pressure to change things.
- hugefemale dog77

Hey man, when a player in that room comments on the lack of accountability from the coaches and leadership core I have to think something is up. Something stinks. Whatever happened to Coach Lowe smashing his stick Into smithereens ? Mac T was a demanding coach as well, and as players, forget about it there was no questioning their desire or work ethic. How the (frank) do they get this culture of no accountability that Perron speaks of?

If you want to feel better about your team, look at my teams line up against the canes tonight. Woof

O’Reilly-Duchene-Briere
Landeskog-MacKinnon-Iginla
Agozzino-Street-Vincour
McLeod-Cliche-Talbot

I've been saying for two years that Schultz has no heart...I thought it was obvious then.
Ference and arcobello need to go as we'll.

I am very happy to be so wrong about Yakupov, the kid wants to play/skate/score/help so much. I love watching his effort this year.

I'm starting to not like seeing Eberle in an Oiler sweater.

I've been saying for two years that Schultz has no heart...I thought it was obvious then.
Ference and arcobello need to go as we'll.

I am very happy to be so wrong about Yakupov, the kid wants to play/skate/score/help so much. I love watching his effort this year.

I'm starting to not like seeing Eberle in an Oiler sweater.
- JLO961

I don't think Ference is part of the problem, I've been happy with him this year. Arcobello and Draisaitl both need upgrades and Draisaitl needs to go NOW.

Hey man, when a player in that room comments on the lack of accountability from the coaches and leadership core I have to think something is up. Something stinks. Whatever happened to Coach Lowe smashing his stick Into smithereens ? Mac T was a demanding coach as well, and as players, forget about it there was no questioning their desire or work ethic. How the (frank) do they get this culture of no accountability that Perron speaks of?
- Jeropotato

I don't disagree with this statement at all.

But It doesn't mean that changes are easy to make which was the enter point of my post. In fact, maybe even harder if there's a perception that our players don't care.

I have my opinions on why they are where they are, and maybe it's too late to fix it.
But End of the day, we could unload our coach and our core for hard working pluggers.
Do we think this is the answer?
U might not have this level of frustration with a team like that as they'll stay in games and be respectable, but Ull never have any real chance of being a contender either.

I get the frustration, and essentially speaking we want the same changes. I just don't know how difficult it is to make them

I don't think Ference is part of the problem, I've been happy with him this year. Arcobello and Draisaitl both need upgrades and Draisaitl needs to go NOW.
- Dangles13

So this


I don't think he has his finger on the pulse of the problem at all. (No disrespect intended jL- just sayin)

I don't think Ference is part of the problem, I've been happy with him this year. Arcobello and Draisaitl both need upgrades and Draisaitl needs to go NOW.
- Dangles13

I sincerely think Ference is THE problem. A slow, small, low skilled, easy to skate either through OR around 5th defenseman simply cannot be your team captain. Having this guy lead a bunch of 18yr old hot shots...is an even worse recipe.

I agree that adding a legit C is high on the list...it would be nice to make a huge splash and make him the captain too.

Anyways, gotta spend Saturday in the fukin library getting some final projects done.

Not looking forward to the beat down tonight....

Later

I sincerely think Ference is THE problem. A slow, small, low skilled, easy to skate either through OR around 5th defenseman simply cannot be your team captain. Having this guy lead a bunch of 18yr old hot shots...is an even worse recipe.

I agree that adding a legit C is high on the list...it would be nice to make a huge splash and make him the captain too.
- JLO961

Are you saying Ference is the problem because he is on the team or just because he is the captain? Just to clarify.

Agree with your observations. It is getting to be so difficult to watch these games.
Can't believe Eakins is still coaching---he's clearly in over his head.

With Pouliot out, they've got no sizeable winger on the top 2 lines, except Hall. If they put Purcell up there, well, he's playing soft and on the perimeter, so he'll be no help. Tampa was happy to get rid of him.

The only chance we have to win games is if the opponent takes a night off and plays the backup G. Somethings got to give. Oiler Fans can only take so much.
- haymac

Heres my thoughts, for what theyre worth..... Target a solid dman,, byfuglin, brent burns, yandle.. give up what you have to !! Target wayne simmonds, again give up what you have too !!!! Dallass eakins..... OMFG firing him wouldnt do justice, it has to be worse

I sincerely think Ference is THE problem. A slow, small, low skilled, easy to skate either through OR around 5th defenseman simply cannot be your team captain. Having this guy lead a bunch of 18yr old hot shots...is an even worse recipe.

I agree that adding a legit C is high on the list...it would be nice to make a huge splash and make him the captain too.
- JLO961

Ferrence being our captain is the least of our problems. If Hall, Nuge, Ebs, Schultz, Perron want to be leaders they will be. These guys don't need a C on their jersey to influence the dressing room or step up in the game. Having a C on your jersey is so overrated. You obviously have never been in a dressing room

I don't disagree with this statement at all.

But It doesn't mean that changes are easy to make which was the enter point of my post. In fact, maybe even harder if there's a perception that our players don't care.

I have my opinions on why they are where they are, and maybe it's too late to fix it.
But End of the day, we could unload our coach and our core for hard working pluggers.
Do we think this is the answer?
U might not have this level of frustration with a team like that as they'll stay in games and be respectable, but Ull never have any real chance of being a contender either.

I get the frustration, and essentially speaking we want the same changes. I just don't know how difficult it is to make them
- hugefemale dog77

Here's a thought:
A)I have read many times that fans are concerned that Taylor Hall will eventually ask for a trade because he is unhappy .
B)I have heard several times that if the Oilers trade ( or hold accountable) His buddies Eberle and Schultz that Hall will be unhappy.
C) Taylor Hall does not want to play on a loser forever.

It seems to me like there are about 16 playoff teams without a Taylor Hall. In fact, last season there were probably a good 10 playoff teams without a comparable talent.

Maybe we place too much importance on ol Hallsy. Maybe the team suffered because they are too concerned with keeping him Happy?

Maybe the Oilers can improve the depth and change the culture with one massive trade?
Seriously, who builds a team around a Left Winger anyway? Oh yeah, Washington.

Here's a thought:
A)I have read many times that fans are concerned that Taylor Hall will eventually ask for a trade because he is unhappy .
B)I have heard several times that if the Oilers trade ( or hold accountable) His buddies Eberle and Schultz that Hall will be unhappy.
C) Taylor Hall does not want to play on a loser forever.

It seems to me like there are about 16 playoff teams without a Taylor Hall. In fact, last season there were probably a good 10 playoff teams without a comparable talent.

Maybe we place too much importance on ol Hallsy. Maybe the team suffered because they are too concerned with keeping him Happy?

Maybe the Oilers can improve the depth and change the culture with one massive trade?
Seriously, who builds a team around a Left Winger anyway? Oh yeah, Washington.

- Jeropotato

Im willing to bet that big changes will come!!!! After the next draft!!!!!!!!

Ferrence being our captain is the least of our problems. If Hall, Nuge, Ebs, Schultz, Perron want to be leaders they will be. These guys don't need a C on their jersey to influence the dressing room or step up in the game. Having a C on your jersey is so overrated. You obviously have never been in a dressing room
- OilerFan16

Hey man, I have no problem with Ference as a number 6 d man on the Oilers, but if there are accountability issues on the Oilers at least some of that is on el Capitan.