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batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 22 @ 4:18 PM ET
How did into get banned yesterday?
- YzermanIsTheMan

I'm.assuming you mean, "how didn't I get banned". And the answer to that is I have no (frank)ing idea.
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Nov 22 @ 4:19 PM ET
I'm.assuming you mean, "how didn't I get banned". And the answer to that is I have no (frank)ing idea.
- batjester

Fixed. Stupid kindle
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Nov 22 @ 4:21 PM ET
How did i not get banned yesterday?
- YzermanIsTheMan

Cause no one loves your sorry ass.....
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Nov 22 @ 4:21 PM ET
Cause no one loves your sorry ass.....
- spitfire187

Except you big boy.
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Nov 22 @ 4:23 PM ET
Except you big boy.
- YzermanIsTheMan

Always and forever....
YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Nov 22 @ 4:32 PM ET
Always and forever....
- spitfire187

What's up my monkey?
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Nov 22 @ 4:33 PM ET
That may be true but why can't Hall stand up in the dressing room and mention this? The fans know it's his team and so do the players.
- OilerFan16


I think this is the whole problem, Hall is the obvious captain/leader of the team but it's probably tough for a 20yr old to just walk in and take over. I'll bet there is at least a small issue with youth vs. vets on this team (for quite a few years). It puts Ference in an awkward position and it sucks for the young guys who probably want to be more vocal but perhaps feel that they would be out of line or disrespectful. It's not in Nuge nor Eberle's DNA to bang the drum but Hall probably wants to scream out loud but maybe holds back.

This is why I've been saying they need to trade "whoever it takes" to get that leader. They've tried everything else, I think this is a big issue with EDM. Who are Nuge/Hall/Yak/Eberle/everyotheryoungstud accountable TO? Ference? David Perron? c'mon.

Slide in a Thornton, M.Richards, Backas, Toews type player, slap the C on his sweater and give him a few vets to stand behind him and I think we'd see a different work ethic and cohesiveness from the kids. Schultz is already tainted I think...he doesn't seem to care at all. I would package him out to get this leader (that probably isn't attainable).

Until they actually give Hall the C, he's probably going to be apprehensive to kick ass in the room.
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Nov 22 @ 4:34 PM ET
What's up my monkey?
- YzermanIsTheMan

Not much my gorilla of the mist.....
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 22 @ 4:36 PM ET
I think this is the whole problem, Hall is the obvious captain/leader of the team but it's probably tough for a 20yr old to just walk in and take over. I'll bet there is at least a small issue with youth vs. vets on this team (for quite a few years). It puts Ference in an awkward position and it sucks for the young guys who probably want to be more vocal but perhaps feel that they would be out of line or disrespectful. It's not in Nuge nor Eberle's DNA to bang the drum but Hall probably wants to scream out loud but maybe holds back.

This is why I've been saying they need to trade "whoever it takes" to get that leader. They've tried everything else, I think this is a big issue with EDM. Who are Nuge/Hall/Yak/Eberle/everyotheryoungstud accountable TO? Ference? David Perron? c'mon.

Slide in a Thornton, M.Richards, Backas, Toews type player, slap the C on his sweater and give him a few vets to stand behind him and I think we'd see a different work ethic and cohesiveness from the kids. Schultz is already tainted I think...he doesn't seem to care at all. I would package him out to get this leader (that probably isn't attainable).

Until they actually give Hall the C, he's probably going to be apprehensive to kick ass in the room.

- JLO961

We usually disagree, but not this time. There is evidence enough to suggest that a culture change is needed within the locker room and a guy like you mentioned just might be able to provide such. But in order for such a change to really take affect, I think you'd almost have to change head coaches as well (which I'm still kinda averse to).
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Nov 22 @ 4:36 PM ET
No he isn't dippoop. Perry is easier to replace than Getzlaf.
- Jeropotato


100%

If we could magically slot Getzlaf into our #1C spot...it is aaaaalmost a done deal. It's so important, having a stud C to carry the load.

Lately I've been wishing that Boyd Gordon could make a deal with the devil and get some hockey skills. He's got all of the pieces...except for the hands part. lol

EDIT: by "done deal" I meant that we almost wouldn't need anything else...nothing to do with trades etc. I have zero knowledge of anything trade related or players under 30yrs old. lol
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Nov 22 @ 4:39 PM ET
There is a rumour that the Oilers will be a good team one day, but it hasn't been confirmed (E2).
- Jeropotato

laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Nov 22 @ 4:44 PM ET
DD same as the show. There's other poop too like shooting ducks and catching frogs... But it's fun as (frank) playing uncle si....
- spitfire187


Ohhh is Uncle Si the one who is the homophobic a-hole?
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Nov 22 @ 4:46 PM ET
Ohhh is Uncle Si the one who is the homophobic a-hole?
- laughs2907

No that's phil.
OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

Nov 22 @ 4:47 PM ET
So Nashville loves his contract and wouldn't dream of making changes with all the cups they're piling up?
Also, Weber is top 10, top 3 is a stretch.

- Jeropotato

I think he's the best all around dman in the league
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Nov 22 @ 4:49 PM ET
No that's phil.
- spitfire187


Ahhh...

Seems like a nice guy.
hunter3333
Edmonton Oilers
Location: NE
Joined: 01.03.2008

Nov 22 @ 5:04 PM ET
It's cock-man now.....
- spitfire187

spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Nov 22 @ 5:05 PM ET
[quote=hunter3333]
Only when I visit your mom....
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Nov 22 @ 5:06 PM ET
Ahhh...

Seems like a nice guy.

- laughs2907

YzermanIsTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: TN
Joined: 09.29.2013

Nov 22 @ 5:06 PM ET
Not much my gorilla of the mist.....
- spitfire187

Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 22 @ 5:17 PM ET
part of it is the leadership qualities. Part of it is just focusing more.

Everyone talking about Perron's comments as if they're entirely about taking more initiative. He also makes the great, simple point that we need to stop carrying in the puck 1 on 3 like a bunch of mavericks.

So I agree with the need to work on the team culture and all that, but let's not let that betray the fact that if you 'play hard' like a moron, you're still playing like a moron. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the 1 on 3 do it myself nonsense from Hall/Eberle comes out of a misguided desire from them to 'will themselves to win'.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 22 @ 5:19 PM ET
All this bullpoop about acquiring the Schenns is just moronic.

That's going to help the Oilers? Acquiring a pair of unestablished brothers and treating them like a package deal. We've already got enough sects in the locker room the happiness of whom apparently depends on how you treat their friends.

No more of that poop.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Nov 22 @ 5:23 PM ET
All this bullpoop about acquiring the Schenns is just moronic.

That's going to help the Oilers? Acquiring a pair of unestablished brothers and treating them like a package deal. We've already got enough sects in the locker room the happiness of whom apparently depends on how you treat their friends.

No more of that poop.

- Morris

agreed...
bhawks86
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.09.2012

Nov 22 @ 5:27 PM ET
Honestly I'm not even the biggest hall supporter. I think he makes some pretty stupid plays at times. I'd trade him today if it meant a real 1 d was coming back. Don't think any getting moved tho and I don't want to trade him/Ebs/nuge for depth guys etc . If we are trading an impact player I want one coming right back
- OilerFan16



Im not saying they should trade Hall but they need to trade at least one of the top guys. Things can't get much worse if you do since they have finished at the bottom for at least the last 4 years. The main problem is with the GM, you can't build a team with the same type of players that are top draft picks. They need to make some changes and get some character guys in. And you can't say if you that if you trade hall/ebs/nuge etc that you need an impact player because non of these players have proven anything. Yes they are skilled but a lot of players in the league are skilled.
jazzca1974
Calgary Flames
Location: Rehab
Joined: 09.12.2010

Nov 22 @ 5:28 PM ET
part of it is the leadership qualities. Part of it is just focusing more.

Everyone talking about Perron's comments as if they're entirely about taking more initiative. He also makes the great, simple point that we need to stop carrying in the puck 1 on 3 like a bunch of mavericks.

So I agree with the need to work on the team culture and all that, but let's not let that betray the fact that if you 'play hard' like a moron, you're still playing like a moron. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the 1 on 3 do it myself nonsense from Hall/Eberle comes out of a misguided desire from them to 'will themselves to win'.

- Morris



I agree with your opinion on guys trying to be the hero, doing too much which translates into big steaming piles of poop. Their has to be a fracture or two in that room preventing this thing from righting itself.

They need someone with massive balls to grab the reigns and take no prisoners. MacT has to stop polishing Tambellini's turds.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Nov 22 @ 5:28 PM ET
I think he's the best all around dman in the league
- OilerFan16

I would say that OEL, Doughty, Suter, Giordano and Keith are all as good if not better, with Pietrangelo, McDonough,Subban, Karrlson not in the same class.
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