He is amazing. I just wish I knew how he does what he does.
- Dangles13

How one can thrive on getting under random strangers skin and constantly attempt to agitate people on a discussion form?
It's really fukin weird.
Guaranteed both those dudes have some serious issues in real life

He still is crazy. That vanek trade was terrible.
- ILoveLamp

Maybe so but he has a competitive team on the ice!

How one can thrive on getting under random strangers skin and attempting to agitate people on a discussion form?
It's really fukin weird.
Guaranteed both those dudes have some serious issues in real life
- hugefemale dog77

I don't understand that either. I'm going to try and ruin someones day because (frank) it I've got nothing else on the docket. Hur hur hur.

How one can thrive on getting under random strangers skin and constantly attempt to agitate people on a discussion form?
It's really fukin weird.
Guaranteed both those dudes have some serious issues in real life
- hugefemale dog77

The life of an internet troll. My favorites are the people who drop in occasionally to derp and kick the team/fans while they are face down in the mud, yet are too chicken sh!t to list who their team is. They display definite anti social and histrionic personality disorders.

The life of an internet troll. My favorites are the people who drop in occasionally to derp and kick the team/fans while they are face down in the mud, yet are too chicken sh!t to list who their team is. They display definite anti social and histrionic personality disorders.
- ruttager17

Hall is like Kessel.

Unreal at putting up pts, and offensively top 10.... but does that alone win you games when they matter? I still question his character as a leader.

I believe Eberle has the heart and determination to lead this team with Hall taking over the offensive load, but don't kid yourself... Hall is far away from being elite with the exception of pts alone. BUT if the argument is by player comparision vs Hall... Tatar/Nyquist are not even close, but both are champions at a pro level (AHL) and that proved worthy last year when half of the Griffins got the Wings into the playoffs.

that is EXACTLY what Hall is missing.
- BooBoo997

the real problem isn't a guys stats. It is the team.

Every team has to score some goals. When you lose 4-2, somebody pots the 2

Maybe so but he has a competitive team on the ice!
- redwolf

Don't forget that New York is a little more desirable than Edmonton. As far as the trades go good for him. But I think MacT would have liked to get grabovski

eberle is not the guy over hall. for sure not. ebs is the complimentary scorer type that's gonna go silent for stretches, its just hus game. those guys are integral to winning as well, but not your leaders and cornerstones.
maybe nuge, but hes the quiet type.
this is halls team. but all of these kids need some roster help to eke out some wins and learn how to close games even when ur not playing ur A game.

halls defensive warts are overstated. his passing is way underrated.
hes a great player and elite imo
- hugefemale dog77

I agree, because that is what I said -- Eberle should have the "C" while Hall carries the offensive load. Being Elite is not an automatic leader. On my Wings, Datsyuk is superior when it comes to skill, but by far and large our leader is Zetterberg.

the most skilled, is not always a "leader".

i could argue with all of the names mentioned.
for example;
ovie is a right winger.


or like;
parise is better two way, but not the offensive machine that hall can be etc etc etc.
but most are great players so its arguable.


but pacioretty and kunitz don't even belong in this debate. ridiculous.

im not gonna argue this any further though. your skills are weak
- hugefemale dog77

Haha I'll bite, are you sure about patches? Your disdain for mtl blinds you usually decent insight into hockey and its players.

I'd almost be willing to bet patches pots 50 in a season b4 hall, I say almost because I think they are both excellent players and are in the same realm talent wise both can do it. Not only that look at his center vs halls. I'm also going to call out your take on the habs preseason. Soo off.

The life of an internet troll. My favorites are the people who drop in occasionally to derp and kick the team/fans while they are face down in the mud, yet are too chicken sh!t to list who their team is. They display definite anti social and histrionic personality disorders.
- ruttager17

Haha trolls are hilarious. I don't have words to say how pathetic and sad people are for putting down random people on the net. Not only putting down people for a pov, opinion or for a team they cheer for. Pretty useless people...

Edit
poop now I'm the random dude putting down the random idiots out there... (frank). ignore the paradox I created.

Haha I'll bite, are you sure about patches? Your disdain for mtl blinds you usually decent insight into hockey and its players.

I'd almost be willing to bet patches pots 50 in a season b4 hall, I say almost because I think they are both excellent players and are in the same realm talent wise both can do it. Not only that look at his center vs halls. I'm also going to call out your take on the habs preseason. Soo off.
- munky123

I don't think he will. 50 is rare these days.

Crosby, Ovechkin, Perry are your 50 goal guys. Obviously there will be new guys to hit this number.

But unless the Habs acquire Thornton to dish the puck to Patches every night I don't see it.

Taylor Hall just might.

edit: not sure how I forgot Stamkos' name.

I agree, because that is what I said -- Eberle should have the "C" while Hall carries the offensive load. Being Elite is not an automatic leader. On my Wings, Datsyuk is superior when it comes to skill, but by far and large our leader is Zetterberg.

the most skilled, is not always a "leader".
- BooBoo997

From the outside looking in, (not actually in the dressing room but on ice - interviews, public interaction etc) hall is our leader in every way.
He's a far more domineering personality and player. He's far more vocal, emotional and is the driving force behind the team.
Offence certainly isn't the only reason why hall is undoubtedly our leader. It's just one of them

Wow some of you guys need a second job or get a job,the amount of hours you guys spend here at HB everyday is crazy,again who ever needs a job in edmonton contact me,is Christmas season I got few temp jobs to offer

Haha I'll bite, are you sure about patches? Your disdain for mtl blinds you usually decent insight into hockey and its players.

I'd almost be willing to bet patches pots 50 in a season b4 hall, I say almost because I think they are both excellent players and are in the same realm talent wise both can do it. Not only that look at his center vs halls. I'm also going to call out your take on the habs preseason. Soo off.
- munky123

Pacioretty is not in halls class.
period.

I think it's ludicrous to disagree, and I doubt very many outside of the hab fan base would disagree.

But you're entitled to your opinion

How was I way off on my take?
I guess the habs are near the top instead of 3rd5th which I assumed. But I'm not surprised.
With Boston fighting injuries, I don't think there's anyone outside of Pitts that is a shoe in.
the east isn't very strong imo and the habs are a decent team. I'm not surprised they are where they are

Not sure if this has been posted in this thread yet: Enjoy

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...udly-boo-team-after-loss/

Pacioretty is not in halls class.
period.

I think it's ludicrous to disagree, and I doubt very many outside of the hab fan base would disagree.

But you're entitled to your opinion
- hugefemale dog77

I agree hall is much Better than Patches.

Haha I'll bite, are you sure about patches? Your disdain for mtl blinds you usually decent insight into hockey and its players.

I'd almost be willing to bet patches pots 50 in a season b4 hall, I say almost because I think they are both excellent players and are in the same realm talent wise both can do it. Not only that look at his center vs halls. I'm also going to call out your take on the habs preseason. Soo off.
- munky123

You should have posted this after your post about trolling and creating a paradox.

I agree hall is much Better than Patches.
- JVR_42_PK81

The oilers struggles have made these conversations possible somehow.

I think his leadership could be questioned.
Maybe even his defensive effort.

But his team being terrible doesn't change his place in the big picture imo.
Which is an elite winger.
There are guys I would entertain a solid argument that might be better - zetterberg, Parise etc.

But max isn't one of them

The oilers struggles have made these conversations possible somehow.

I think his leadership could be questioned.
Maybe even his defensive effort.

But his team being terrible doesn't change his place in the big picture imo.
Which is an elite winger.
There are guys I would entertain a solid argument that might be better - zetterberg, Parise etc.

But max isn't one of them
- hugefemale dog77

Dreger says Perron is on the block for a top C. Newmy confirms this.

1) What a stupid list of coaches. Give me a F***in break. Paul Maclean 29th LOL. 1st year in Ottawa he is runner up for Jack Adams. 2nd year his whole bloody team is out -- Spezza, Michalek, KARLSSON, Cowen, ANDERSON [mvp that year] -- and he wins the Jack Adams. So fast track 17 months later and he's 29th

2) On the oilers front: the oilers fans have a perspective on here far greater than anyone else. EDM has had to endure game after game of losses. On top of that being told to be patient and that things would get better. This team needs a culture change (not one that is tough/zombie style coaching) but they need a coach that will light a fire under all this potential (like Roy did in COL). You don't need Roy for that. Even a coach like Dan Bylsma -- who had to work with a young Crosby, Staal, Malkin, and Fluery to win a cup. He is a vet coach -- one of the best tactical and attention to detail coaches. Personally I think Ray Shero (as GM) and Dan Bylsma (head coach) make tons of sense. But I'm just spitballing here.

BUT WHY MESS WITH THIS TEAM RIGHT NOW? Perhaps the biggest motivation for Edmonton to finish 30th this year is to draft one of the most talked about prospects since OV/Crosby. Imagine getting that type of player into this organization. Now the odds have changed (for the draft lottery) but still -- 30th means 20% chance of landing him compared to other %s. I'd leave it to oilers fans but personally I'd want to tank and get either McDavid or Eichel then do what I need to do in the summer. Or else you make the culture change now, fire sale anyone outside the young big guns and risk getting a 6th-14th pick which won't really be that bad but certainly not going to blow your socks off like those 2

Dreger posts on TSN that Oilers looking to trade Peron for a Top line center. Window Lickers interpret this as Oilers overrate their players because they think they can trade a second line winger for a 1c. Nowhere in the article does it quote MacT. Nowhere does it state that MacT expects it to be a one for one trade. Then we have idiots in here and on TSN saying Oiler Fans over rate our players based on this article. The gene pool clearly need some chlorine.

Dreger posts on TSN that Oilers looking to trade Peron for a Top line center. Window Lickers interpret this as Oilers overrate their players because they think they can trade a second line winger for a 1c. Nowhere in the article does it quote MacT. Nowhere does it state that MacT expects it to be a one for one trade. Then we have idiots in here and on TSN saying Oiler Fans over rate our players based on this article. The gene pool clearly need some chlorine.
- Al Hacker

He doesn't even say top line C. He says top C which- if the past is any indication- means top-6 C.

He doesn't even say top line C. He says top C which- if the past is any indication- means top-6 C.
- MaximumBone

Did you read the comments on the article? Most of the (frank)tards believe it is a 1c.

Dreger posts on TSN that Oilers looking to trade Peron for a Top line center. Window Lickers interpret this as Oilers overrate their players because they think they can trade a second line winger for a 1c. Nowhere in the article does it quote MacT. Nowhere does it state that MacT expects it to be a one for one trade. Then we have idiots in here and on TSN saying Oiler Fans over rate our players based on this article. The gene pool clearly need some chlorine.
- Al Hacker

I don't watch much Oiler hockey.

My question for you guys: Is Nugent-Hopkins not a top line Center?

If anything my opinion is the Oilers need some defensemen. And maybe a second line center.

He doesn't even say top line C. He says top C which- if the past is any indication- means top-6 C.
- MaximumBone

You'd think he'd clarify it and use a better choice of works. Is adding "6" that much work for him. He's the worst.