Hall for hanzal

Idk if each team needs to add ++ but I want hanzal. I'm sure we could get more from arz.

This team needs to do something down the middle. Berflund could be had for cheaper, I wouldn't mind that haha. Soon enough drais will be contributing more and dominating and we'll have a good 1,2 punch down the middle. You can't build a team from the wings, trade some of it for center depth and a proven defenseman.

Hell look for pietroanglo(sp?) offer them hall or our first who really cares, address our needs already.

I might go two firsts, a second and Steve Santini for Hall.
- blizzzard

We need players, man, not picks.

I don't think the Oilers should trade Hall. He isn't the problem.
- JVR_42_PK81

would love to see eberle/hall or yak in toronto,,,I think Yak just needs a new team

I'd like to see some fresh faces in management. Even among those who believe that Lowe doesn't actually affect much change on a day to day basis (which I tend to), I'm beginning to believe that the optics are much better for a team committed to changing how they're perceived both internally or externally if that figurehead of the so-called old boys club is removed.

That's what I was feeling when I woke up this morning.

If I had to predict what the oilers WILL do to change, it's this: Eakins will be fired, MacT will step into interim head coach and do double-duty. They'll bring in an outside voice AGM to run the day-to-day workings of the team. At season's end, they'll promote that guy to GM and MacT will transition full time to head coach but will probably still be a pretty trusted voice in management.

I'd like to see some fresh faces in management. Even among those who believe that Lowe doesn't actually affect much change on a day to day basis (which I tend to), I'm beginning to believe that the optics are much better for a team committed to changing how they're perceived both internally or externally if that figurehead of the so-called old boys club is removed.

That's what I was feeling when I woke up this morning.

If I had to predict what the oilers WILL do to change, it's this: Eakins will be fired, MacT will step into interim head coach and do double-duty. They'll bring in an outside voice AGM to run the day-to-day workings of the team. At season's end, they'll promote that guy to GM and MacT will transition full time to head coach but will probably still be a pretty trusted voice in management.
- Morris

I thought the same for a while now. Even if Lowe really does not have a say in the final decisions and it is all MacT, it would deflect the fan base's ire and give the team a bit more time to try and get something going

Really? He isn't the turnover machine that thinks he can get through 3 players at the Blueline rather than dump it in?
- Jeropotato

Your vitriol is refreshingly honest and poignant.

Really? He isn't the turnover machine that thinks he can get through 3 players at the Blueline rather than dump it in?
- Jeropotato

How long are you going to be on the "Hall is the problem" train?

I have no idea what he's like as a teammate, and I'll even cede that he's got a lot to learn about playing a system game. But my inclination is that if he can half-ass his way to being a top 5 LW in the game playing a sometimes unintelligent game, than you hang on to that talent and get some guys he can learn from.

All in all, I think it's been a wakeup call that we need not just to add insulating veterans, but to utilize them as more than 'scoring depth' . Wouldn't surprise me if when the new coach came in if he played Purcell, Perron, Pouliot, Yaks and the 4th line more than Hall and Ebs. Over the past 5+ games they seem to be executing a system more than our top guys.

Hall has the skills to be Rick Nash and Marian Hossa rolled into one. But maybe the recent games just show he's not going to get there until he gets some more tutelage.

I'd like to see some fresh faces in management. Even among those who believe that Lowe doesn't actually affect much change on a day to day basis (which I tend to), I'm beginning to believe that the optics are much better for a team committed to changing how they're perceived both internally or externally if that figurehead of the so-called old boys club is removed.

That's what I was feeling when I woke up this morning.

If I had to predict what the oilers WILL do to change, it's this: Eakins will be fired, MacT will step into interim head coach and do double-duty. They'll bring in an outside voice AGM to run the day-to-day workings of the team. At season's end, they'll promote that guy to GM and MacT will transition full time to head coach but will probably still be a pretty trusted voice in management.
- Morris

Agreed except Scott Howson will run the day to day. Mac T will have a Roy like role in management.

So basically nothing will change in management.

would love to see eberle/hall or yak in toronto,,,I think Yak just needs a new team
- bazookajo

I am more interested in Perron to be honest.

I think part of Hall's problem is that he does not trust his new linemates (has been paired with guys other than Nuge and Ebs more often recently) enough and feels he needs to do it all on his own.

How long are you going to be on the "Hall is the problem" train?

I have no idea what he's like as a teammate, and I'll even cede that he's got a lot to learn about playing a system game. But my inclination is that if he can half-ass his way to being a top 5 LW in the game playing a sometimes unintelligent game, than you hang on to that talent and get some guys he can learn from.

All in all, I think it's been a wakeup call that we need not just to add insulating veterans, but to utilize them as more than 'scoring depth' . Wouldn't surprise me if when the new coach came in if he played Purcell, Perron, Pouliot, Yaks and the 4th line more than Hall and Ebs. Over the past 5+ games they seem to be executing a system more than our top guys.

Hall has the skills to be Rick Nash and Marian Hossa rolled into one. But maybe the recent games just show he's not going to get there until he gets some more tutelage.
- Morris

A couple more days at least.

I love Hallsy. He's not the problem but he is our best chip. Plus , he's a winger. Kessel, Kovalchuck, Ovechkin, Nash were all wingers that their teams tried to build around. I have yet to see much success at that ass backwards approach.

I am more interested in Perron to be honest.
- JVR_42_PK81

Ya for got to add him..allot of valuable parts on oilers..i think toronto has some players that could help them too..we laugh at phenough..but I think he would be well suited there...but to be honest with latest issues in toronto I question his leadership and don't know if oilers would want him with their young crew..

Agreed except Scott Howson will run the day to day. Mac T will have a Roy like role in management.

So basically nothing will change in management.
- Jeropotato

I was thinking about Howson.

Howson as GM was demonstrably no worse as GM than MacT has been, at least until he was on the hot seat and sort of poop the bed. Luckily he'll never be on the hot seat in Edmonton

Still, Howson as GM and MacT as coach is better than MacT as GM and Eakins as coach #plantheparade #herecometheoilers #swag4lyfe

Your vitriol is refreshingly honest and poignant.
- AdamFrench

Don't (frank) with me this morning Frenchy, I ain't in the mood.

A couple more days at least.

I love Hallsy. He's not the problem but he is our best chip. Plus , he's a winger. Kessel, Kovalchuck, Ovechkin, Nash were all wingers that their teams tried to build around. I have yet to see much success at that ass backwards approach.
- Jeropotato

Fair enough. Everyone is expendable is a good attitude to have.

Funny you bring up Ovie, because at present we're a bad imitation of them.

Hall = Ovie lite
Nuge = Backstrom lite
Eberle = Semin lite
Schultz = Green SUPER lite

so much for trying to build a team like the Blackhawks.

I'm especially vitriolic to the caps because my brother is a caps fan and the sting of my Edmonton Oilers losing a game 7, triple OT Stanley Cup loss to his Capitals on NHL '94 in the summer of 1996 will be with me for the rest of my life.

Ya for got to add him..allot of valuable parts on oilers..i think toronto has some players that could help them too..we laugh at phenough..but I think he would be well suited there...but to be honest with latest issues in toronto I question his leadership and don't know if oilers would want him with their young crew..
- bazookajo

I'm not taking a shot at Toronto, but unless they have a legit #1 Goalie, #1 Defender and a 2 Way 2C they can part with there isn't a trade.

Just to clarify, just because Reimer is better than Scrivens doesn't make him the goalie we need, ditto for Dion, he would be our best defensemen, but that doesn't make him the right guy.

In the year of Mcdavid why do you even want to do anything at this point, you are in the hunt for a top 2 pick and both are suppose to be franchise stars. This is the only year you want to be bad unlike the past few years in which the oilers needed to make trades and fire management.
At this point let it ride till the summer then make your whole sale changes,

I'm not taking a shot at Toronto, but unless they have a legit #1 Goalie, #1 Defender and a 2 Way 2C they can part with there isn't a trade.

Just to clarify, just because Reimer is better than Scrivens doesn't make him the goalie we need, ditto for Dion, he would be our best defensemen, but that doesn't make him the right guy.
- Jeropotato

agreed - like I said Toronto is looking for pretty similar so a trade between the two doesn't make sense.

I'm not taking a shot at Toronto, but unless they have a legit #1 Goalie, #1 Defender and a 2 Way 2C they can part with there isn't a trade.

Just to clarify, just because Reimer is better than Scrivens doesn't make him the goalie we need, ditto for Dion, he would be our best defensemen, but that doesn't make him the right guy.
- Jeropotato

is there a team in the NHL that can fill what you just said? I think that Oilers need to drop the standards a bit...ya they have good players, but as they continue to bleed nobody is trading with them..no shot here either..

I would consider Bernier not Reimer BTW

In the year of Mcdavid why do you even want to do anything at this point, you are in the hunt for a top 2 pick and both are suppose to be franchise stars. This is the only year you want to be bad unlike the past few years in which the oilers needed to make trades and fire management.
At this point let it ride till the summer then make your whole sale changes,
- jake24242

That's a sad and painful truth. Trust me , an Oilers tank is probably the right move....but man....were getting tired of this poop.

Fair enough. Everyone is expendable is a good attitude to have.

Funny you bring up Ovie, because at present we're a bad imitation of them.

Hall = Ovie lite
Nuge = Backstrom lite
Eberle = Semin lite
Schultz = Green SUPER lite

so much for trying to build a team like the Blackhawks.

I'm especially vitriolic to the caps because my brother is a caps fan and the sting of my Edmonton Oilers losing a game 7, triple OT Stanley Cup loss to his Capitals on NHL '94 in the summer of 1996 will be with me for the rest of my life.
- Morris

Are you saying your goalies will be retired, sent to Europe and traded for a first round in the next few seasons?

agreed - like I said Toronto is looking for pretty similar so a trade between the two doesn't make sense.
- BlowMonkey

tbh the leafs need to trade for myers he is what we need. Hes only 24 coming into his prime would fit right in to the age of our team. people say you need to draft those guys but we did it with kessel and it worked out ok. Plus not like there is a 6'7" D in the first round this year.

Are you saying your goalies will be retired, sent to Europe and traded for a first round in the next few seasons?
- AdamFrench

here's hoping.

is there a team in the NHL that can fill what you just said? I think that Oilers need to drop the standards a bit...ya they have good players, but as they continue to bleed nobody is trading with them..no shot here either..

I would consider Bernier not Reimer BTW
- bazookajo

We won't get all of that from one team mind you. But if we could Parlay both Hall and Enerle into that plus a RW And a sweetener in a series of trades we would have to consider it.

is there a team in the NHL that can fill what you just said? I think that Oilers need to drop the standards a bit...ya they have good players, but as they continue to bleed nobody is trading with them..no shot here either..

I would consider Bernier not Reimer BTW
- bazookajo

I think he means one of those components, not all three in the same trade.