What was the offer? I heard RNH, Klefbom and our 7th.....or did I hear that from your lord and master Esplen, I can't remember?
- Jeropotato

What is up man?

How does one guy have more ability than another to trade a player?
Some people are dumber, I suppose , but this can't come down to ability or willingness, it has as much to do with the other 29 GM's.
If they don't want to give you a top pair DMan or Center for Perron you're not going to convince them.


C'mon man, be better at this.
- Jeropotato

Better than what?

Why do you think Perron is the chip I'm dangling?

The oil have draft picks to trade. What's wrong with trading draft picks? The draft is a crapshoot anyway and prospects usually take 3-5 years to progress into full time NHL players.

Why do you think it's that way? Because it's cold? Nothing to do but to hang out in a big mall? ESPN not available on local cable?

There is nothing wrong with Edmonton as a city. That's a horse poop excuse.

Maybe players don't want to sign there because the organization is run by a bunch of tards. It's a second tier franchise that's lost any credibility it once had from those glory days.

The oil have had loads of draft picks to give up without losing their core. Start spending those picks and get yourself some talent and fix this situation.
- bloatedmosquito

I have no issues with doing that, I haven't for over a year now. The picks should be on the table, but with us a lock for a top 2 or 3 pick.
Problem is, the only players I would trade it for are the types that all but garauntee it won't be that great a pick. The other GM's know this, and won't take that chance u til the draft position is written in stone.

What was the offer? I heard RNH, Klefbom and our 7th.....or did I hear that from your lord and master Esplen, I can't remember?
- Jeropotato

It wasn't that high. Maybe MacT put that out there to make himself look like a savy GM but you have to be an idiot to think that was the deal offered by Gillis.

Gillis eventually accepted a single 1st round pick. Don't you think the oil could have beat that offer?

What is up man?
- time2produce

Same old bullpoop

It wasn't that high. Maybe MacT put that out there to make himself look like a savy GM but you have to be an idiot to think that was the deal offered by Gillis.

Gillis eventually accepted a single 1st round pick. Don't you think the oil could have beat that offer?
- bloatedmosquito

I think they did beat that offer, that's why Mac T was so pissed when he went for the bargain basement price he did eventually trade him for.
Gillis wasn't too keen on trading him within the division, I think that had as much to do with it as Mac T's "ability" to make a deal.

"Last year was such a debacle from start to finish in so many ways," Oilers general manager Craig MacTavish explained to TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie, "that we are for sure going to better, it's just a measure of how much."

http://www.tsn.ca/mactavi...elieves-in-eakins-1.84757

"Last year was such a debacle from start to finish in so many ways," Oilers general manager Craig MacTavish explained to TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie, "that we are for sure going to better, it's just a measure of how much."

http://www.tsn.ca/mactavi...elieves-in-eakins-1.84757
- laughs2907

Hiya laughs ya dirty plum smuggler!

Hiya laughs ya dirty plum smuggler!
- Jeropotato

Hi Jero... How are you this fine Monday night?

It wasn't that high. Maybe MacT put that out there to make himself look like a savy GM but you have to be an idiot to think that was the deal offered by Gillis.

Gillis eventually accepted a single 1st round pick. Don't you think the oil could have beat that offer?
- bloatedmosquito

Gillis and MacT mad the same mistake. Talk big and do nothing. Add Doug Wilson of the Sharks to that group. It got Gillis fired and if it was not for the 80's love fest in Edmonton probably the same for MacT

Better than what?

Why do you think Perron is the chip I'm dangling?

The oil have draft picks to trade. What's wrong with trading draft picks? The draft is a crapshoot anyway and prospects usually take 3-5 years to progress into full time NHL players.
- bloatedmosquito

More of the oilers should do this the oilers should do that bullshat. Mact is not a dummy, again just because its not happening doesnt mean it can and should! Jesus i would trade Eberle and our 1st for Yandle but the coyotes wouldnt make the trade does that make Mact a bad GM or does that just mean the deal does not work for both sides?

Same old bullpoop
- Jeropotato

Things are ugly in Oilerville....

Trade our first round draft pick right now while it is high (Every team probably thinks we are crashing and burning, and everyone thinks/knows that Mcdavid is going to be a franchise star). We can still turn the season around. We got 60 games left. If MacT can do it, he can pull of one of the biggest game changing trades in Hockey History. Let me explain (It might be a long shot, but we can all agree that we want to see playoff action, the time when Rexall Place is the loudest place on earth):

Step 1:

2nd Round Draft pick + Ference + Yakupov = Seguin (add a 2017 2nd Rounder if Dallas counters)

Yakupov was and is the odd puzzle out of this top 6. He has the potential, but he just isn't fitting into the group (Was a big supporter for Ryan Murray). We get Tyler Seguin, whom is very acquainted with Hall and RNH. He will fit in quite well. The 1 or 2 2nd draft picks make this deal a great one for Dallas especially since this draft might be the best one in a Decade. A decade ago, you saw Pavel Datsyuk buried in the 7th round. Ference as captain is just not working out and he is alright in defense, but we have tons of top 4 defensemen. We all have agreed that this is Hall's team. He is the turning corner of this team.

and then

1st Round Draft Pick + Petry + Musil = Seabrook + Hjal

Might look like the worst trade ever, but lets remember that that 1st Draft pick could become a franchise star (Even though Chicago already has one). Petry is a good top 4 defenseman, but we have tons of those that are going to start popping up later on (Nurse, Marincin, Klefbom, Gernat possibly). We need elite-consistent defense from the best and Seabrook provides it. Hjal, however might be the turning point on how this trade might play out as he still hasn't shown what he truely has to offer, only glimpses of potential (Had one hell of a good playoff run). We would need to waiver Luke, Pini, and Aulie in order to pass the trade.

Step 2:

Change the Scouting Staff and retool it in a way that models the Detroit's style of scouting.
For this year, scout mainly on Goalies and focus on looking for that elite late boomer. It might be harder than catching fly's with chopsticks, but it is possible (Ask Daniel).

Step 3:

Hire Mark Messier as a Associate Coach and fire Acton. (Let both of the Actons go). Messier was a hard-working, consistent player. I think he has the potential to impact that on the Players. The main reason why Gretzky didn't do well as a coach was because he was more Talent gifted than hard-working. Messier was the heart and soul of the Oilers in 1991. In fact, it would be very, very interesting to see Messier as a Head Coach and Gretzky as an Associate Coach. Messier would teach and influence the players with hardwork and playing with a passion, while Gretzky could fine the edges on the players and give them a more tactical and technical apporach (Gretzky was all tactics, especially behind the net).

Step 4: Win the Cup.

All of this can be done. It can be done! For some of the trades, it might take 1 or 2 more draft picks, but we are DONE DRAFTING, SAY IT WITH ME, WE ARE DONE DRAFTING. We wouldn't need any high draft picks for the next 5-6 years (We got Big K, Yak2, Chase, and more offense. Our defense pool is amazing depth wise) as long as we draft smart (Liek the red wings) and we don't jsut go with the concensus.

In the end, our lineup could look like this in JUST 1-2 WEEKS:

Hall-Seguin-Purcell
Perron-RNH-Eberle
Arco-Leon-Pouliot
Joensuu-Gordon-Hendricks

Seabrook-Hjal
Marincin-Fayne
Schultz-Nikitin

Scrivens
Fasth

Any thoughts or considerations on what you would do?
Please no hate, I jsut want to see a change in this team as much as any other Oiler fan would want to.
- EdmHockeyMan

The ONLY way you get Seguin is if you pony up Hall, and Dallas won't even do that. The only way to get Seabrook...is to pony up Hall. And Chicago likely doesn't even do that.

Trade our first round draft pick right now while it is high (Every team probably thinks we are crashing and burning, and everyone thinks/knows that Mcdavid is going to be a franchise star). We can still turn the season around. We got 60 games left. If MacT can do it, he can pull of one of the biggest game changing trades in Hockey History. Let me explain (It might be a long shot, but we can all agree that we want to see playoff action, the time when Rexall Place is the loudest place on earth):

Step 1:

2nd Round Draft pick + Ference + Yakupov = Seguin (add a 2017 2nd Rounder if Dallas counters)

Yakupov was and is the odd puzzle out of this top 6. He has the potential, but he just isn't fitting into the group (Was a big supporter for Ryan Murray). We get Tyler Seguin, whom is very acquainted with Hall and RNH. He will fit in quite well. The 1 or 2 2nd draft picks make this deal a great one for Dallas especially since this draft might be the best one in a Decade. A decade ago, you saw Pavel Datsyuk buried in the 7th round. Ference as captain is just not working out and he is alright in defense, but we have tons of top 4 defensemen. We all have agreed that this is Hall's team. He is the turning corner of this team.

and then

1st Round Draft Pick + Petry + Musil = Seabrook + Hjal

Might look like the worst trade ever, but lets remember that that 1st Draft pick could become a franchise star (Even though Chicago already has one). Petry is a good top 4 defenseman, but we have tons of those that are going to start popping up later on (Nurse, Marincin, Klefbom, Gernat possibly). We need elite-consistent defense from the best and Seabrook provides it. Hjal, however might be the turning point on how this trade might play out as he still hasn't shown what he truely has to offer, only glimpses of potential (Had one hell of a good playoff run). We would need to waiver Luke, Pini, and Aulie in order to pass the trade.

Step 2:

Change the Scouting Staff and retool it in a way that models the Detroit's style of scouting.
For this year, scout mainly on Goalies and focus on looking for that elite late boomer. It might be harder than catching fly's with chopsticks, but it is possible (Ask Daniel).

Step 3:

Hire Mark Messier as a Associate Coach and fire Acton. (Let both of the Actons go). Messier was a hard-working, consistent player. I think he has the potential to impact that on the Players. The main reason why Gretzky didn't do well as a coach was because he was more Talent gifted than hard-working. Messier was the heart and soul of the Oilers in 1991. In fact, it would be very, very interesting to see Messier as a Head Coach and Gretzky as an Associate Coach. Messier would teach and influence the players with hardwork and playing with a passion, while Gretzky could fine the edges on the players and give them a more tactical and technical apporach (Gretzky was all tactics, especially behind the net).

Step 4: Win the Cup.

All of this can be done. It can be done! For some of the trades, it might take 1 or 2 more draft picks, but we are DONE DRAFTING, SAY IT WITH ME, WE ARE DONE DRAFTING. We wouldn't need any high draft picks for the next 5-6 years (We got Big K, Yak2, Chase, and more offense. Our defense pool is amazing depth wise) as long as we draft smart (Liek the red wings) and we don't jsut go with the concensus.

In the end, our lineup could look like this in JUST 1-2 WEEKS:

Hall-Seguin-Purcell
Perron-RNH-Eberle
Arco-Leon-Pouliot
Joensuu-Gordon-Hendricks

Seabrook-Hjal
Marincin-Fayne
Schultz-Nikitin

Scrivens
Fasth

Any thoughts or considerations on what you would do?
Please no hate, I jsut want to see a change in this team as much as any other Oiler fan would want to.
- EdmHockeyMan

Crazy, I read something equally as stupid on the other thread.

Are you,like, 11 years old or something?

Crazy, I read something equally as stupid on the other thread.

Are you,like, 11 years old or something?

- Jeropotato

Didn't read it but can we also trade Nikitin for Weber?

What was the offer? I heard RNH, Klefbom and our 7th.....or did I hear that from your lord and master Esplen, I can't remember?
- Jeropotato

I heard that it was a ton at the draft. When I look back at reports from Rishaug, he said 7th, great young player and a 2nd

Gillis and MacT mad the same mistake. Talk big and do nothing. Add Doug Wilson of the Sharks to that group. It got Gillis fired and if it was not for the 80's love fest in Edmonton probably the same for MacT
- vols94

MacT hasn't done nothing. You can say his fault is making a bunch of changes that didn't work, but you can't really say that the guy who made that many transactions and almost got at least 3 more done (Coburn, Schneider, Clarkson) "did nothing"

Trade our first round draft pick right now while it is high (Every team probably thinks we are crashing and burning, and everyone thinks/knows that Mcdavid is going to be a franchise star). We can still turn the season around. We got 60 games left. If MacT can do it, he can pull of one of the biggest game changing trades in Hockey History. Let me explain (It might be a long shot, but we can all agree that we want to see playoff action, the time when Rexall Place is the loudest place on earth):

Step 1:

2nd Round Draft pick + Ference + Yakupov = Seguin (add a 2017 2nd Rounder if Dallas counters)

Yakupov was and is the odd puzzle out of this top 6. He has the potential, but he just isn't fitting into the group (Was a big supporter for Ryan Murray). We get Tyler Seguin, whom is very acquainted with Hall and RNH. He will fit in quite well. The 1 or 2 2nd draft picks make this deal a great one for Dallas especially since this draft might be the best one in a Decade. A decade ago, you saw Pavel Datsyuk buried in the 7th round. Ference as captain is just not working out and he is alright in defense, but we have tons of top 4 defensemen. We all have agreed that this is Hall's team. He is the turning corner of this team.

and then

1st Round Draft Pick + Petry + Musil = Seabrook + Hjal

Might look like the worst trade ever, but lets remember that that 1st Draft pick could become a franchise star (Even though Chicago already has one). Petry is a good top 4 defenseman, but we have tons of those that are going to start popping up later on (Nurse, Marincin, Klefbom, Gernat possibly). We need elite-consistent defense from the best and Seabrook provides it. Hjal, however might be the turning point on how this trade might play out as he still hasn't shown what he truely has to offer, only glimpses of potential (Had one hell of a good playoff run). We would need to waiver Luke, Pini, and Aulie in order to pass the trade.

Step 2:

Change the Scouting Staff and retool it in a way that models the Detroit's style of scouting.
For this year, scout mainly on Goalies and focus on looking for that elite late boomer. It might be harder than catching fly's with chopsticks, but it is possible (Ask Daniel).

Step 3:

Hire Mark Messier as a Associate Coach and fire Acton. (Let both of the Actons go). Messier was a hard-working, consistent player. I think he has the potential to impact that on the Players. The main reason why Gretzky didn't do well as a coach was because he was more Talent gifted than hard-working. Messier was the heart and soul of the Oilers in 1991. In fact, it would be very, very interesting to see Messier as a Head Coach and Gretzky as an Associate Coach. Messier would teach and influence the players with hardwork and playing with a passion, while Gretzky could fine the edges on the players and give them a more tactical and technical apporach (Gretzky was all tactics, especially behind the net).

Step 4: Win the Cup.

All of this can be done. It can be done! For some of the trades, it might take 1 or 2 more draft picks, but we are DONE DRAFTING, SAY IT WITH ME, WE ARE DONE DRAFTING. We wouldn't need any high draft picks for the next 5-6 years (We got Big K, Yak2, Chase, and more offense. Our defense pool is amazing depth wise) as long as we draft smart (Liek the red wings) and we don't jsut go with the concensus.

In the end, our lineup could look like this in JUST 1-2 WEEKS:

Hall-Seguin-Purcell
Perron-RNH-Eberle
Arco-Leon-Pouliot
Joensuu-Gordon-Hendricks

Seabrook-Hjal
Marincin-Fayne
Schultz-Nikitin

Scrivens
Fasth

Any thoughts or considerations on what you would do?
Please no hate, I jsut want to see a change in this team as much as any other Oiler fan would want to.
- EdmHockeyMan

Are you (frank)ing nuts?????

Why would Chicago, who are a "TOP" contender trade a top pairing dman & a 2nd pairing shutdown dman for a 1st round pick & a pending UFA who isn't as good as either of the dmen they give up, & a c prospect. They aren't stupid that 1st round pick from the oilers has a very low percentage of being the #1 overall at this point. They will drop out of the playoff race & punch their own lottery ticket. Thats just assinide.

Then you think Dallas is going to give their #1 centre with huge chemistry with their other top line forward Jamie Benn for Ference & Yakapov. Sorry, but Yaks value is not what it was when Dallas made the deal for Sequin. In fact the Oilers should have traded that undeserved lottery winning Santa Claus pick that got you Yaks & parlayed it into a top goalie & a top young defender by trading that pick at the draft.

Give your head a shake.

Are you (frank)ing nuts?????

Why would Chicago, who are a "TOP" contender trade a top pairing dman & a 2nd pairing shutdown dman for a 1st round pick & a pending UFA who isn't as good as either of the dmen they give up, & a c prospect. They aren't stupid that 1st round pick from the oilers has a very low percentage of being the #1 overall at this point. They will drop out of the playoff race & punch their own lottery ticket. Thats just assinide.

Then you think Dallas is going to give their #1 centre with huge chemistry with their other top line forward Jamie Benn for Ference & Yakapov. Sorry, but Yaks value is not what it was when Dallas made the deal for Sequin. In fact the Oilers should have traded that undeserved lottery winning Santa Claus pick that got you Yaks & parlayed it into a top goalie & a top young defender by trading that pick at the draft.

Give your head a shake.
- Kevin R

I agree with all except the last comment.....Tambo shopped the Yak pick but the response was Luke warm.....or so he says. Pretty sure if he could get a Goalie and top young defender he would have.

Sorry, I meant 2nd last comment

We need a scoring machine like Steven Weiss

Are you (frank)ing nuts?????

Why would Chicago, who are a "TOP" contender trade a top pairing dman & a 2nd pairing shutdown dman for a 1st round pick & a pending UFA who isn't as good as either of the dmen they give up, & a c prospect. They aren't stupid that 1st round pick from the oilers has a very low percentage of being the #1 overall at this point. They will drop out of the playoff race & punch their own lottery ticket. Thats just assinide.

Then you think Dallas is going to give their #1 centre with huge chemistry with their other top line forward Jamie Benn for Ference & Yakapov. Sorry, but Yaks value is not what it was when Dallas made the deal for Sequin. In fact the Oilers should have traded that undeserved lottery winning Santa Claus pick that got you Yaks & parlayed it into a top goalie & a top young defender by trading that pick at the draft.

Give your head a shake.
- Kevin R

And yet most of the other posts on here are saying, "why hasn't he made a trade for the pieces he needs?" Because the price is very high and the pieces the Oilers need are just not traded often. The Oilers need a 1d 1g and a good 2c more than anything else. Easy according to some, but when you really look at it, not so much. Edmonton has also had some good trades made in the past 8 years where the NMC prevented it from happening.

I agree with all except the last comment.....Tambo shopped the Yak pick but the response was Luke warm.....or so he says. Pretty sure if he could get a Goalie and top young defender he would have.

Sorry, I meant 2nd last comment
- Jeropotato

Guess everyone knew that Yak wouldn't turn out to be anything special?

Guess everyone knew that Yak wouldn't turn out to be anything special?
- rangerdanger94

watch him play... theres a reason he put up a rediculous amount of points in junior. Crosby wouldnt even be able to produce on this team at this point. (in his rookie years that is.)

Guess everyone knew that Yak wouldn't turn out to be anything special?
- rangerdanger94

Could be. But then again it was the pick, not Yak, dummy, so they could have taken Murry or Galchenyuk if they were wise to Yak.

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