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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
I think what Edmonton wants is Coburn and I think it's foolish to weaken our D even more. best case scenario is the current team gets going and then Hexy can deal from a position of strength at the deadline.. maybe try to fleece a desperate club.
- Hextall271



Agreed. Flyers aren't exactly in a strong bargaining position right now. Any team calling the Flyers is looking to get over on them. They just have to get straightened out and get some players who should be playing better, do just that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 11:06 AM ET
i think it would be hard to get value at this point because all the pieces that are not named G, jake and mason are underperforming. i would wait until the deadline to make moves. i think you have a better idea of what if possible (for the team this year, and as far as needs for potential trade partners) at that time
- hogweed



Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 11:15 AM ET
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Nov 28 @ 11:19 AM ET
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
- Just5

dez bryant is a total clown.......running around poking guys in the chest on the sideline and what does he do on the beasley fumble? stands there and watches as allen gets up and runs it down to the 11!! he should punch himself in the face for spectating. then he female dogs about the eagles dirty play.......please, please, please eagles, shut him the (frank) up in 2 weeks
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 28 @ 11:25 AM ET
The worst thing Hextall could do, is make a reactionary trade due to how the Flyers are currently playing. He should make deal from the viewpoint of even if the team was winning and high up in the standings, would he still make a proposed deal. If the answer is yes, then make it. Otherwise, stand pat.
- MJL


I'm torn. I feel Hextall should be kicking tires to see if there is a deal to be made now. I think we could be tougher and more gritty. I think we could get deeper within the bottom six. I think we're weak at Left Wing. I think we're missing that number stud defenseman. All these holes obviously cannot be filled this season but some of them can. Enter guys like Chris Stewart and/or Jordan Nolan, if we can fit them in. Heck, maybe Umberger could be useful to Hitchcock in St Louis for Steve Ott.

As for Berube, I wonder if he'd consider splitting Giroux and Voracek to see if possible offense can be created. It's a gamble but why not try Simmonds on the right of Giroux?
DocEmrickVocab
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.04.2013

Nov 28 @ 11:36 AM ET
Anybody know of a reliable site to stream the game? Stuck at work
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 28 @ 11:37 AM ET
Hey guys what do you think about Shea Theodore? ETA? Ceiling?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 11:38 AM ET
dez bryant is a total clown.......running around poking guys in the chest on the sideline and what does he do on the beasley fumble? stands there and watches as allen gets up and runs it down to the 11!! he should punch himself in the face for spectating. then he female dogs about the eagles dirty play.......please, please, please eagles, shut him the (frank) up in 2 weeks
- hogweed


Cowboys didnt show up. I expect a much different game in philly. With seattle and dallas coming back in 2 weeks its a critical time, but yesterday sure felt great!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
Agreed. Flyers aren't exactly in a strong bargaining position right now. Any team calling the Flyers is looking to get over on them. They just have to get straightened out and get some players who should be playing better, do just that.
- MJL


Not worried about Hexy making a short sighted move for this season. He pretty much said so, something like hes not going to make a move to try and get certain players going. I expect him to obtain a 2nd rounder in this springs draft in a trade this year.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
I'm torn. I feel Hextall should be kicking tires to see if there is a deal to be made now. I think we could be tougher and more gritty. I think we could get deeper within the bottom six. I think we're weak at Left Wing. I think we're missing that number stud defenseman. All these holes obviously cannot be filled this season but some of them can. Enter guys like Chris Stewart and/or Jordan Nolan, if we can fit them in. Heck, maybe Umberger could be useful to Hitchcock in St Louis for Steve Ott.

As for Berube, I wonder if he'd consider splitting Giroux and Voracek to see if possible offense can be created. It's a gamble but why not try Simmonds on the right of Giroux?

- SuperSchennBros



I'm sure that Hextall is doing just that. I think NHL GM's are always doing that. Not a fan of Chris Stewart right now, and I don't know what it would cost to get him. Probably too much. I think the Flyers need a playmaker more then another grinder. I don't think Nolan does much to help the Flyers.
Why would St. Louis make that deal?
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Nov 28 @ 11:49 AM ET
How bout breaking a few legs instead??

Cough, cough, Umberger, VLC, cough, cough

- BiggE


Get the limo driver from Detroit who got into the accident after a team party in the late 1990's
problem solved.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Nov 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
I'm torn. I feel Hextall should be kicking tires to see if there is a deal to be made now. I think we could be tougher and more gritty. I think we could get deeper within the bottom six. I think we're weak at Left Wing. I think we're missing that number stud defenseman. All these holes obviously cannot be filled this season but some of them can. Enter guys like Chris Stewart and/or Jordan Nolan, if we can fit them in. Heck, maybe Umberger could be useful to Hitchcock in St Louis for Steve Ott.

As for Berube, I wonder if he'd consider splitting Giroux and Voracek to see if possible offense can be created. It's a gamble but why not try Simmonds on the right of Giroux?

- SuperSchennBros


Ron should be whacking the tires out there with a sledge hammer to see if there are deals to be made, specifically moving any of the underachieving bodies he inherited. Not an easy task by any means, but you never know.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
Not worried about Hexy making a short sighted move for this season. He pretty much said so, something like hes not going to make a move to try and get certain players going. I expect him to obtain a 2nd rounder in this springs draft in a trade this year.
- Just5

I agree...Hexy is a patient man and will have a good draft
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Nov 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
Get the limo driver from Detroit who got into the accident after a team party in the late 1990's
problem solved.

- Steelmanpa


Pretty creepy thought there, bro.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
if MDZ continues to improve Hexy might get a 2nd rounder for him
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 28 @ 11:55 AM ET
What exactly does getting prongered mean? That's just listing some names. What kind of trade market do you think exists right now for Umberger and Lecavalier?
- MJL

none thats shy they gotta get prongered (early retirement)
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 28 @ 11:55 AM ET
Id be pretty happy with a split the next two games. They'd better bring their A game today because winning at MSG seems about as likely as BiggE's proposed threesome.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
Ron should be whacking the tires out there with a sledge hammer to see if there are deals to be made, specifically moving any of the underachieving bodies he inherited. Not an easy task by any means, but you never know.
- 77rams

yes! and chief needs to scratch like an alley cat with fleas!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
if MDZ continues to improve Hexy might get a 2nd rounder for him
- vejim


Keep him with Schultz and away from Coburn
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Nov 28 @ 11:57 AM ET
Pretty creepy thought there, bro.
- 77rams


Just piling on to BigEEE's theme.
They should donate their salaries to charity, since they certainly arent earning them
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 11:57 AM ET
none thats shy they gotta get prongered (early retirement)
- JoeRussomanno



You also said the Schenn should get prongered. You want B. Schenn to retire early?
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Nov 28 @ 11:59 AM ET
if MDZ continues to improve Hexy might get a 2nd rounder for him
- vejim


If he continues to improve, he's a keeper.
ManCity
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pike County, PA
Joined: 05.24.2014

Nov 28 @ 11:59 AM ET
I think the only move that might be worth doing is getting rid of Umberger and Vinny's contract, but they will need to add an asset to make that happen.

I don't want to see Read go, but if they could get a 2nd round pick for Read and Umberger that could be a deal worth doing. It would be hard to replace Read, but it would be easier to replace Read than it would be to trade Umberger.

The same with Vinny, though I think Vinny still adds some value to the team.

Creating cap space by trading Umberger, Vinny, and maybe Luke Schenn and adding draft picks for the 2015 draft would bring some success to this season, even it they don't make it to the playoffs.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Nov 28 @ 12:00 PM ET
You also said the Schenn should get prongered. You want B. Schenn to retire early?
- MJL


Pronger didn't retire.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
if its possible I would be very happy with a totally new D in 2015
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