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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 29 @ 2:34 PM ET
Emery needs to start a brawl, level St Louis
- vejim


Maybe he'll punch Umberger
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
It isn't pride, balls or work ethic. The Flyers are a mediocre team, full of ill fitting parts.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
Emery needs to start a brawl, level St Louis
- vejim

That would be better than two points.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
It isn't pride, balls or work ethic. The Flyers are a mediocre team, full of ill fitting parts.
- Jsaquella


Yup
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
Brought to you by Luke Schenn.
- hereticpride

was it Schenn's man or Delzotto's?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
It isn't pride, balls or work ethic. The Flyers are a mediocre team, full of ill fitting parts.
- Jsaquella

Like a supped up Dodge Neon.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 29 @ 2:37 PM ET
was it Schenn's man or Delzotto's?
- FlyerGuy

Might have MDZs. Schenn took a guy to the boards when the puck was in front of the net though.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 2:37 PM ET
How?
- wolfhounds


It was sarcasm.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 2:37 PM ET
It isn't pride, balls or work ethic. The Flyers are a mediocre team, full of ill fitting parts.
- Jsaquella


vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 29 @ 2:38 PM ET
was it Schenn's man or Delzotto's?
- FlyerGuy

Schenn for a 3rd rounder and MDZ for a 2nd rounder...lets go Hexy
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 29 @ 2:38 PM ET
It isn't pride, balls or work ethic. The Flyers are a mediocre team, full of ill fitting parts.
- Jsaquella



Exactly..two dynamic all world players in Giroux and Voracek with the rest being average or slightly above average.

Just not good enough.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 29 @ 2:38 PM ET
It isn't pride, balls or work ethic. The Flyers are a mediocre team, full of ill fitting parts.
- Jsaquella

they could use a skilled physical winger like jamie benn or bobby ryan
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 2:39 PM ET
you're twisting my words...my original projection was 40 to 60 points... of course, you gravitate toward the 60 and are trying to hold my feet to the fire on it ...he scored at 41 point pace last season when in a more suitable role...do you think he could put up 40? And its not that unreasonable to think he could find an extra point every 4 games as he developed to get to that 60 mark, which was again, a best case, top of the projection number, and was not meant to be the most likely outcome.
- exlund


I'm not twisting your words. In two of my posts I stated that the 60 points was on the upper end of the spectrum of the potential that you think Akeson has. 40 would not be impossible if he develops further and blooms late as a player. But right now, it's questionable if Akeson is ever going to be a regular NHL player, and put up any kind of point total.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 29 @ 2:40 PM ET
Because PEB has been effective & that can't be in the lineup each game.
- ob18


I just turned on radio. Is Bellemare scratched?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 2:43 PM ET
Flyers big problem is not only in the D zone with the breakdowns in coverage. Vigneault is well known for favoring quick up and over-over breakouts. The Flyers are dumping the puck in with out any speed, Ranger d-men making easy retrievals, quick up breakout to an unmarked winger along the boards, short pass to a streaking wingers, and easy rushes and entry into the Flyers zone. Flyers losing puck battles and bad coverages, lots of chances against. Flyers have no neutral zone back pressure, and can't sustain a forecheck.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 29 @ 2:43 PM ET
I just turned on radio. Is Bellemare scratched?
- Just5



Yah, replaced by VDV..
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
I just turned on radio. Is Bellemare scratched?
- Just5


Yep, all so they could play Lecavalier 3:31 through two periods
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
Exactly..two dynamic all world players in Giroux and Voracek with the rest being average or slightly above average.

Just not good enough.

- opeth_pa


They are also a really stupid team at times.
mjh609
New York Rangers
Location: YT
Joined: 01.21.2009

Nov 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
they could use a skilled physical winger like jamie benn or bobby ryan
- 2Real



Or wayne simmonds? You are worse than homer. Why would you add offense? Your defensemen are god awful and the system you play doesn't do anything to help them out. You have plenty of very talented offensive players the problem is you can't get out of your own zone to generate offense because your defense stinks.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Nov 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
Flyers big problem is not only in the D zone with the breakdowns in coverage. Vigneault is well known for favoring quick up and over-over breakouts. The Flyers are dumping the puck in with out any speed, Ranger d-men making easy retrievals, quick up breakout to an unmarked winger along the boards, short pass to a streaking wingers, and easy rushes and entry into the Flyers zone. Flyers losing puck battles and bad coverages, lots of chances against. Flyers have no neutral zone back pressure, and can't sustain a forecheck.
- MJL

So is this better or worse than when Peter Laviolette was coach? Cause I remember people complaining about his teams not being able to beat the Rangers. Is there a coach out there that can? Umberger, Vinny, and a 3rd rounder for Darryl Sutter.
CACannon18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Miami, FL
Joined: 03.12.2014

Nov 29 @ 2:45 PM ET
I'm about ro punch Thai rags fan behind me in the face
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 29 @ 2:46 PM ET
Yep, all so they could play Lecavalier 3:31 through two periods
- Jsaquella


So haven't been able to watch... shots 11 to 29, possession 30 to 70. Is that indicative of the way the game has gone?
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Nov 29 @ 2:47 PM ET
Can't Vinny take pride and retire
3:31 -1
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Nov 29 @ 2:47 PM ET
Or wayne simmonds? You are worse than homer. Why would you add offense? Your defensemen are god awful and the system you play doesn't do anything to help them out. You have plenty of very talented offensive players the problem is you can't get out of your own zone to generate offense because your defense stinks.
- mjh609

I don't disagree with this.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Nov 29 @ 2:47 PM ET
I'm about ro punch Thai rags fan behind me in the face
- CACannon18


How do you know he's from Thailand?
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