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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:23 PM ET
VLC and a 20 foot pole for an 8X10 glossy of Savard, Lapointe, and Robinson.
- 77rams

Depends on what those three gentlemen are doing I guess.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 2 @ 3:24 PM ET
I want to give Berube for being the one guy with his eyes on the prize


- Jsaquella

Very delicate facial features
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 2 @ 3:24 PM ET
I'm a fairly big Coburn defender, but he had a couple of games after he came back form his injury where he was breathtakingly awful.
- Feanor

Thrillingly horrendous
Awe-insipringly catastrophic

I could get into this "adjectives which normally don't go with stinks"...
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 2 @ 3:24 PM ET
Berube is from the old school of scratching
- vejim

So we need catnip?
Or are we talking girl fight? Cuz i'm usually close fisted when I fight. Just sayin.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 2 @ 3:25 PM ET
I didn't see Saturday's game, but Del Zotto must've been pretty (frank)ing bad to get the hook before every other defenseman except Streit
- AllInForFlyers


I watched most of it and he didn't stand out as having a bad game.

I think they should just play 7 D and sit VdV. The guy is -7 in 115 pretty easy ES minutes, but Berube loves him for some reason.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 2 @ 3:25 PM ET
I didn't see Saturday's game, but Del Zotto must've been pretty (frank)ing bad to get the hook before every other defenseman except Streit
- AllInForFlyers

he was distracted by all the hookers in the crowd
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 2 @ 3:26 PM ET
I'm a fairly big Coburn defender, but he had a couple of games after he came back form his injury where he was breathtakingly awful.
- Feanor


Here is my take on this problem. The team sucks. The system sucks. The coach sucks. The management sucks. What can we remove quickly ? The coach. Berube needs to go. Need new meet to throw to the lions and see where we are. If we are tanking by feb that change needs to happen and begin training camp with a new voice and system if that can't be had now. This mess isn't working. And I find it hard that 20 players suddenly forgot how to play hockey.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 2 @ 3:26 PM ET
he was distracted by all the hookers in the crowd
- vejim


You so went there...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:26 PM ET
Very delicate facial features
- PhillySportsGuy


fragile hands, too...punch one piece of glass and it's broken
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 2 @ 3:26 PM ET
I didn't see Saturday's game, but Del Zotto must've been pretty (frank)ing bad to get the hook before every other defenseman except Streit
- AllInForFlyers


He wasn't.

Streit and Grossmann were awful all weekend. Schultz's carriage has clearly turned back into a pumpkin. Coburn was still in his Delorean, revisiting '12-13.

The only other guy who didn't look like complete poop was Luke Schenn, who had himself a good game on Sat, by his standards.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 2 @ 3:28 PM ET
He wasn't.

Streit and Grossmann were awful all weekend. Schultz's carriage has clearly turned back into a pumpkin. Coburn was still in his Delorean, revisiting '12-13.

The only other guy who didn't look like complete poop was Luke Schenn, who had himself a good game on Sat, by his standards.

- Tomahawk

Which means Schenn met the "you must be this tall to ride" requirements.
NICE!
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 2 @ 3:28 PM ET
He wasn't.

Streit and Grossmann were awful all weekend. Schultz's carriage has clearly turned back into a pumpkin. Coburn was still in his Delorean, revisiting '12-13.

The only other guy who didn't look like complete poop was Luke Schenn, who had himself a good game on Sat, by his standards.

- Tomahawk


By his standards? He looked like a number one pairing dman on this team. And that's not good believe it or not.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 2 @ 3:29 PM ET
I want to give Berube for being the one guy with his eyes on the prize


- Jsaquella

we're doomed to lose the lottery anyways
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 2 @ 3:29 PM ET
I watched most of it and he didn't stand out as having a bad game.

I think they should just play 7 D and sit VdV. The guy is -7 in 115 pretty easy ES minutes, but Berube loves him for some reason.

- Feanor


I swear, it's one step forward, one step back
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 3:29 PM ET
Irrelevant topic but I was thinking about current players that will make the HoF and here's what I got:

Definite: Jagr, Crosby, Ovechkin, Thornton, Chara, Brodeur, Iginla, St. Louis, Malkin

Probable: Datsyuk, Hossa, Lundqvist, Alfredsson, Toews

Possible: Sedins, Elias, Marleau, Lecavalier, Brad Richards, Heatley, Gonchar, Zetterberg, Spezza, E. Staal, Getzlaf, Perry, Kopitar, Bergeron, P. Kane, Luongo, Miller, Nash, Ribeiro, Weber, Keith, Kessel

Long shot: Doan, O. Jokinen, N. Backstrom, Dan Boyle, Morrow, Briere, Tanguay, Gaborik, Nabokov, Fleury, Vanek, Havlat, Timonen, Sharp

On track: Tavares, Stamkos, Doughty, Rask, Quick, Giroux, Subban, Price, Karlsson, Seguin, Parise, Suter

Others to consider for the future: Pietrangelo, Benn, Ekman-Larsson, Landeskog, MacKinnon, Hall, McDonagh, Duchene

I probably missed some guys but the main reason for this post is so I could get my thoughts down and maybe have some of you bounce your own around.

- NickTheKid87


I don't think that Ovechkin, Thornton, and Malkin are locks. I'd put them as probables, although Ovechkin and Malkin have time to change that. I don't think Hossa ever makes it because he was never "that guy." He was always second fiddle or lower, whether it was on Ottawa (Alfredsson), Atlanta (Kovalchuk), Pittsburgh (Crosby, Malkin), Detroit (Datsyuk, Zetterberg), or Chicago (Toews, Kane).

If we're counting Pronger, then he's a definite for me. If Shea Weber ever gets the hardware that is annually stolen from him, he would be a probable. He's also got time on his side a bit.

Patrick Kane is probably inching closes to a definite, as he may be the most explosive player in hockey. If I need a goal late in the game, I may want the puck on his stick.

It's not a bad list, but there's a few too many "very good" players for my liking. Gaborik, Havlat, and Timonen are all guys that any team would have liked in their primes, but they were never dominant enough for the HHOF.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Dec 2 @ 3:29 PM ET
we're doomed to lose the lottery anyways
- BulliesPhan87


At this point, you'll have to convince me this team can win anything.. including the lottery..
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Dec 2 @ 3:30 PM ET
Wait, some of you were actually surprised that Berube would combine a logical move like scratching Vinny with a WTF? one like scratching MDZ?



Fools

- Jsaquella

Del Zotto was scratched for reacting too slowly to that fake cobra in the cooler.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 2 @ 3:30 PM ET
He wasn't.

Streit and Grossmann were awful all weekend. Schultz's carriage has clearly turned back into a pumpkin. Coburn was still in his Delorean, revisiting '12-13.

The only other guy who didn't look like complete poop was Luke Schenn, who had himself a good game on Sat, by his standards.

- Tomahawk

you know your D is doomed when LSchenn is your best Dman
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:30 PM ET
Breaking News..

Craig Berube will continue to scratch a different forward/defender combo each game until the Flyers win.

Jack Craig Adams
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 2 @ 3:30 PM ET
We would like to be impressed by Berube benching high priced veterans who had bad games.

But then he also benches Bellemare and now, apparently Del Zotto, so we have to assume he's just doing it at random.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 3:30 PM ET
Doan will make it strictly because he is Captain Canada at the World Championships.

/kiddingish

- johndewar


Ah, the Rick Nash argument.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 2 @ 3:30 PM ET
we're doomed to lose the lottery anyways
- BulliesPhan87


It's fool-proof this year. Lose the lottery, worst you can do is Eichel.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 2 @ 3:31 PM ET
I think Dallas were in on him, too, but would only go to 4 years.
- Feanor

You guys signed amac on april 15th I believe... so no one else could talk to him, hence no one else bid against you.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 2 @ 3:31 PM ET
fragile hands, too...punch one piece of glass and it's broken
- Jsaquella


Handle with care
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Dec 2 @ 3:31 PM ET
Grossmann, Coburn and Streit have all been bad lately, too. But we know they actually are immune.
- Jsaquella

Need a star to favorite this, because thumbs up is not the vibe I'm going for.
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