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EdEagle
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.27.2013

Dec 3 @ 12:38 AM ET
Just seems like it's a waste of time bringing him back. we have been down this road before failed. Ben will never be a number one goalie in the nhl even with a mentor, the sooner we realize this the better for us. I'm not sure where we find a number one but hopefully sooner then later.
- Snagglepuss

Unleash the Bryz!!!!!
Last year the team got slightly better when he came in..... Maybe he is the real leader in this poop show.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Dec 3 @ 12:38 AM ET
If you don't move it...

MacT=Tambs

Or Katz is a loser...

- whipper334


At least MacT looks unhappy to be losing. Tambellini would just smile and ask if you'd seen his baseball.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Dec 3 @ 12:39 AM ET

- mighty13duck

thats me (frank) face.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 3 @ 12:39 AM ET
Either way it burns .
- HouseArrest187

I have in my possessions the HOTTEST pic of Paige to date.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 3 @ 12:39 AM ET
thats me (frank) face.
- HouseArrest187

You're the real slim shady?
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Dec 3 @ 12:45 AM ET
I have in my possessions the HOTTEST pic of Paige to date.
- mighty13duck

I have a pic of a 1000 dallor lizard eating a 5000 dallor snake._. What would you rather see ?/?
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Dec 3 @ 12:46 AM ET
You're the real slim shady?
- mighty13duck

Yes.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 3 @ 12:47 AM ET
I have a pic of a 1000 dallor lizard eating a 5000 dallor snake._. What would you rather see ?/?
- HouseArrest187

The pic that I have. Obviously.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Dec 3 @ 12:49 AM ET
The pic that I have. Obviously.
- mighty13duck

Is that why your Richard dont work?
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 3 @ 12:50 AM ET
Is that why your Richard dont work?
- HouseArrest187

How old are you? Serious question. Majority of Paige worshippers are in their 20s. We appreciate hotness
hunter3333
Edmonton Oilers
Location: NE
Joined: 01.03.2008

Dec 3 @ 12:52 AM ET
I would destroy Meg Griffin


- LoveGun

You do know that Meg was once a boy.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 3 @ 12:53 AM ET
You do know that Meg was once a boy.
- hunter3333

OILER FANS....
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Dec 3 @ 12:53 AM ET
I'm not a professional, and I have no idea what goes on in that room.

But let's just assume one key player in the room wants out. Hypothetically, it's Eberle.

If we package Eberle and our 2015 1st, that's gonna return a hell of a package, I'd think. Going down that train of thought, let's say it was Keith Yandle and Antoine Vermette. There's a rationale there for both sides. I personally think as of today Edmonton gives up considerably more value, and Arizona has a couple of young dmen coming up in the world. Vermette's a UFA after this year, and Yandle after next year, so Arizona saves themselves a headache in renegotiation and maybe kicks in a sweetener.

If I'm sitting in that room, and MacT comes down and tells me a guy who wanted out is gone, and we get two veteran gamers back including by far our best defenseman, I'm stoked. Then, he says "listen boys. I traded the 1st. Forget McDavid. He's never going to be an Oiler. We're going to win without him. He does not figure into our future. What's more, we're going to win enough this year - right now - that we're not giving him up anyway".

If I'm in that room, I'd be motivated. Even if dealing picks is the furthest thing from my job. If I'm a player, I'm motivated to do my job better by a motivated management team doing their job.

- Morris


Are you kidding me ? It's a nice fantasy situation but we're trying to be a playoff team if you make that trade and it doesn't happen this year or next. Vermette is a good player, but he's not the kind of guy that brings a bunch of fire with him. Sure it's addition by subtraction getting rid of poopy pants Eberle , but Yandle is not enough to get this team out of the cellar .....I like both players but you're paying way too much ( still better than adding Lecavailier no matter how cheap he is ).



I have no issue with going after McDavid and building around him and Nuge , as long as on draft day or sooner we move Hall, Eberle and Schultz for some big pieces on Defense and goal, maybe even a replacement winger.adding mcDavid to this team is a waste of another good talent.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 3 @ 12:55 AM ET
Are you kidding me ? It's a nice fantasy situation but we're trying to be a playoff team if you make that trade and it doesn't happen this year or next. Vermette is a good player, but he's not the kind of guy that brings a bunch of fire with him. Sure it's addition by subtraction getting rid of poopy pants Eberle , but Yandle is not enough to get this team out of the cellar .....I like both players but you're paying way too much ( still better than adding Lecavailier no matter how cheap he is ).



I have no issue with going after McDavid and building around him and Nuge , as long as on draft day or sooner we move Hall, Eberle and Schultz for some big pieces on Defense and goal, maybe even a replacement winger.adding mcDavid to this team is a waste of another good talent.

- Jeropotato

Too long. Didn't read
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Dec 3 @ 12:57 AM ET
You do know that Meg was once a boy.
- hunter3333

#megoverpaige
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Dec 3 @ 12:58 AM ET
How old are you? Serious question. Majority of Paige worshippers are in their 20s. We appreciate hotness
- mighty13duck

31. I know better .
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Dec 3 @ 12:59 AM ET
jooris 8 goals
hall 8 goals
according to oiler fans jooris is elite

- monymonymony

You suck thats all that matters.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 3 @ 1:01 AM ET
31. I know better .
- HouseArrest187

You wish you was 23 and enjoying these 20 year old sexy chicks. 30 year old women
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Dec 3 @ 1:03 AM ET
Too long. Didn't read
- mighty13duck

Anytime you want to (frank) off, don't let me stop you.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Dec 3 @ 1:04 AM ET
Are you kidding me ? It's a nice fantasy situation but we're trying to be a playoff team if you make that trade and it doesn't happen this year or next. Vermette is a good player, but he's not the kind of guy that brings a bunch of fire with him. Sure it's addition by subtraction getting rid of poopy pants Eberle , but Yandle is not enough to get this team out of the cellar .....I like both players but you're paying way too much ( still better than adding Lecavailier no matter how cheap he is ).



I have no issue with going after McDavid and building around him and Nuge , as long as on draft day or sooner we move Hall, Eberle and Schultz for some big pieces on Defense and goal, maybe even a replacement winger.adding mcDavid to this team is a waste of another good talent.

- Jeropotato

being that all evidence is to the contrary that this will happen, I'm not that psyched about McDavid. I think they'll dig their heels in even more if they draft him. McDavid + Schultz still getting 25 minutes a game = no better off.

Maybe they'll trade Yakupov for Nathan Beaulieu or something
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 3 @ 1:07 AM ET
Anytime you want to (frank) off, don't let me stop you.
- Jeropotato

HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Dec 3 @ 1:07 AM ET
You wish you was 23 and enjoying these 20 year old sexy chicks. 30 year old women
- mighty13duck
1.Have you seen my wife. 2. Ive (frank)ed a many 20 year olds. One of my fav things to do but Overrated , plus there is no way that dirty vampire is under 300.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Dec 3 @ 1:09 AM ET
Are you kidding me ? It's a nice fantasy situation but we're trying to be a playoff team if you make that trade and it doesn't happen this year or next. Vermette is a good player, but he's not the kind of guy that brings a bunch of fire with him. Sure it's addition by subtraction getting rid of poopy pants Eberle , but Yandle is not enough to get this team out of the cellar .....I like both players but you're paying way too much ( still better than adding Lecavailier no matter how cheap he is ).

- Jeropotato

Wow, really?

I thought three things about the situation:
1) This team isn't as bad as it looks. Get motivated, or rather stop being so pointedly unmotivated, and things look different.
2) Remove a potential problem child, and maybe motivation comes a little easier.
3) Add two really talented players that fit our two biggest needs really well, we'll get better than the sum of our parts so far.

With these 3 things in mind, I don't think it's a stretch to say that we'd win our way out of McDavid territory after the trade. And as far as next year, assuming we got those guys re-upped it'd be the most jazzed I'd be for an Oilers season in a while.

As Whipper says though, it's an overpay and I hedged my bets. Yandle + Hanzal, OEL + Vermette. Arizona has a ton of intriguing potential offers.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 3 @ 1:17 AM ET
jooris 8 goals
hall 8 goals
according to oiler fans jooris is elite

- monymonymony


Sheesh bro...SHE-EESH
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Dec 3 @ 1:34 AM ET
being that all evidence is to the contrary that this will happen, I'm not that psyched about McDavid. I think they'll dig their heels in even more if they draft him. McDavid + Schultz still getting 25 minutes a game = no better off.

Maybe they'll trade Yakupov for Nathan Beaulieu or something

- Morris

Woah woah woah. Adding McDavid to this poisonous core will do nothing, except give us the flexibility to move a few pieces. Turn Draisaitl , Eberle and Hall up front and Jultz on the backend into a veteran Center and a couple D-Men, trade for a young goalie and were in good shape.
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