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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 3 @ 2:17 PM ET
It's that kind of day.
- NickTheKid87


i'm sorry to hear that.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Dec 3 @ 2:18 PM ET
What if we get Macdavid and he turns into a generational type talent like Crosby
What if he leads us to multiple stanley cups
What if he saves this franchise from the torture
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 3 @ 2:18 PM ET
If they have the #1 pick I think it NEEDS to be McDavid. I don't want any kind of tricks or nonsense. If Eichel turns out to be better I can live with that, but if they pick Eichel and McDavid turns out to be Sidney V2, I can not stomach something like that again.
- MBFlyerfan


Tough call, there some respected scouts that feel Eichel may just end up being the better player. All things equal, I'd still take McDavid, but if we are at #1 and the team at #2 is willing to give up the store to flip spots, I'd probably make the deal.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 3 @ 2:19 PM ET
I will not be upset if the Flyers get into the top 5 this year, they would be a one and done playoff team and I think the team will have a brite future
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
What if we get Macdavid and he turns into a generational type talent like Crosby
What if he leads us to multiple stanley cups
What if he saves this franchise from the torture

- Winning


What if we get McDavid and he blows out both of his knees, then gets a poopload of concussions?

It's the Flyers, you can almost see it happening.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Dec 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
Tough call, there some respected scouts that feel Eichel may just end up being the better player. All things equal, I'd still take McDavid, but if we are at #1 and the team at #2 is willing to give up the store to flip spots, I'd probably make the deal.
- BiggE


you make the pick. you don't trade it. for anything.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Dec 3 @ 2:21 PM ET
What if we get McDavid and he blows out both of his knees, then gets a poopload of concussions?

It's the Flyers, you can almost see it happening.

- BiggE


while walking to podium.
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Dec 3 @ 2:21 PM ET
It was one game. L.Schenn, Lecavalier, Bellemare and MacDonald have all been scrtached too. I'm sure after last night more are on the way.
- SuperSchennBros


I'll be happy if Umberger and Coburn are in the press box...until that time Chief isn't doing the team any favors by flip flopping who sits every other game.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 3 @ 2:21 PM ET
What if we get Macdavid and he turns into a generational type talent like Crosby
What if he leads us to multiple stanley cups
What if he saves this franchise from the torture

- Winning

Hexy takes McD with no hesitation
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
What if we get Macdavid and he turns into a generational type talent like Crosby
What if he leads us to multiple stanley cups
What if he saves this franchise from the torture

- Winning


vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
the sad part is that the Flyers do not have their 2nd round pick and that would have been a nice pick?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
I would trade Coburn for the Oilers 2nd rounder
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Dec 3 @ 2:28 PM ET
the sad part is that the Flyers do not have their 2nd round pick and that would have been a nice pick?
- vejim

I think Coburn gets us a 2nd.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Dec 3 @ 2:28 PM ET
I think Coburn gets us a 2nd.
- 2731color

could of got us three
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 3 @ 2:30 PM ET
the sad part is that the Flyers do not have their 2nd round pick and that would have been a nice pick?
- vejim


(frank)ing Bruins have it now, too.... thanks AMac.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 3 @ 2:30 PM ET
i'm sorry to hear that.
- stayinthefnnet


One-sided trade proposals that favor the opposition are more entertaining than the ones that heavily favor the Flyers though.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 3 @ 2:32 PM ET
could of got us three
- Winning

So when is the trade deadline?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 3 @ 2:36 PM ET
I dunno... I believe this team is legitimately bad. I also believe the Jackets (bad luck + injuries) and Oilers (bad luck) aren't as terrible as they look right now.
- Tomahawk

Just by benching Vinny and burying RJ on the 4th, they will get an immediate lift.

If Read/Couts and Simmonds get going they could beat some other bad teams and finish in the 10-12 spot.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Dec 3 @ 2:41 PM ET
Just by benching Vinny and burying RJ on the 4th, they will get an immediate lift.

If Read/Couts and Simmonds get going they could beat some other bad teams and finish in the 10-12 spot.

- Marc D


That would be about the right level of suck... not enough to turn it positive as a high draft pick, but enough to miss playoffs...
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 3 @ 2:42 PM ET
One-sided trade proposals that favor the opposition are more entertaining than the ones that heavily favor the Flyers though.
- NickTheKid87


yeah that is true. i just genuinely didnt understand that one.

oh well, like you said. more interesting than having to read the dreck of either things like brayden schenn for OEL or sutter and a third for taylor hall.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 3 @ 2:43 PM ET
I'll be happy if Umberger and Coburn are in the press box...until that time Chief isn't doing the team any favors by flip flopping who sits every other game.
- aantny88


90% of the team isn't playing well. It's ignorant to place blame on two or three players.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 3 @ 2:43 PM ET
M plan moving forward is hoping playoff teams lose dmen and need depth forwards. Then come TDL time I get teams to bid for Coburn, MacDonald, Read, Rinaldo, Gorssmann/Schenn(probably just one) and depending on offers even Del Zotto and Simmonds.

If you get lucky maybe you can find a taker for Vinny or Umberger. If not then after the TDL i waive umberger and use the 900k spaceto take a long look at someone like Leirer or Cousins or Straka.

I think with a couple moves and a little luck landing a top 2 pick this team could start the turnaround next year.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Dec 3 @ 2:44 PM ET
I'll save you some time, lol.

Only trade I would personally accept is Stamkos and a 1st from TB. I wouldn't even trade #1-2 this year for Crosby straight up.

- Tomahawk


I hear you, but playing Devil's Advocate, instead of having one superstar player in '92 we could have had a comparable superstar plus some pieces that would have perhaps made a more well-rounded team.

I think this team has a lot more talent than the 91/92 teams, so perhaps filling 3 or 4 holes with all-star level talent might be the smarter strategy.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 3 @ 2:44 PM ET
Any lineup news yet?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 3 @ 2:45 PM ET
M plan moving forward is hoping playoff teams lose dmen and need depth forwards. Then come TDL time I get teams to bid for Coburn, MacDonald, Read, Rinaldo, Gorssmann/Schenn(probably just one) and depending on offers even Del Zotto and Simmonds.

If you get lucky maybe you can find a taker for Vinny or Umberger. If not then after the TDL i waive umberger and use the 900k spaceto take a long look at someone like Leirer or Cousins or Straka.

I think with a couple moves and a little luck landing a top 2 pick this team could start the turnaround next year.

- J35Bacher

what would you realistically expect for him?
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