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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 3 @ 11:17 AM ET
The expiring contract is the only lure. Would like to get Jokipakka or Nemeth (who won't be back til next season).
- bmeltzer


Can we make it Read and Umberger?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 3 @ 11:17 AM ET
Bill, thoughts on a deal that involves Read + L Schenn for Horcoff from Dallas? From a cap standpoint, Horcoff's $5.5M is gone with his UFA status at year's end.
- PhiFaninEdm


Why would the flyers do that? They can get an actual asset for read
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 11:18 AM ET
Time for our healthy squad to get battered by another battered patchwork one.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 3 @ 11:18 AM ET
Sorry to say, apathy has set in. For some reason, I can't become attached to this team and it's not because they are doing bad. Maybe it's too many band-aids which, I know, will not be here very long.

They're not fun at all to watch and for a fan to say that, it's detrimental for an organization. It makes me not want to buy merchandise & content with watching the game at home rather than be at the WFC.

Most nights this season, I even forgot that they were playing! And I counted the days in the summer until the season began.

/disappointed

- Fast_Eddie_1


This is why I fear Chairman Ed doing something drastic and stupid.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
Ice time actually usually is the biggest indicator of potential healthy scratches, especially with Chief. The Del Zotto ice time (which had been down on the whole) and MacDonald ice times were a bit of anomaly. Also, Berube clearly does not have much confidence in L. Schenn and his ice time was very low last night in a game where the Flyers either led or were tied most of the night and the Flyers didn't get much in the way of power play time (which is time on the bench for L. Schenn, Grossmann and usually Schultz).
- bmeltzer


Bill do you feel Luke has any trade value and if so, do you feel Berube's benching will hurt any value he may bring?
Fast_Eddie_1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Vorhees, NJ
Joined: 01.31.2012

Dec 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
I was impressed with the 10 - 49 - 17 line last night. Laughton is visible on the ice each shift.


Mason deserved a better fate last night.

- PhiFaninEdm


Loved the 10 whiff! I caught a cold.

I could have sworn I heard that before.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
I was impressed with the 10 - 49 - 17 line last night. Laughton is visible on the ice each shift.

Mason deserved a better fate last night.

- PhiFaninEdm


Laughton is not without his fair share of mistakes. But at least he's young and hungry
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 3 @ 11:20 AM ET
In general I agree, but I thought Grossmann was awful last night. Coburn truly has been a mess since he returned.
- BiggE

HATERS GONNA HATE ON GROSSMANN. I will admit I only caught the first period but I felt he was fairly solid. Everytime he struggled to get a puck out of the zone I couldn't see a forward in the screen at all. It tells me they aren't going back to support him. And ALL our defensemen need some support from the forwards for a clean exit from our zone - that's not just Grossmann...
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 3 @ 11:20 AM ET
I thought he was doing a last one on the bus kinda thing.
- mayorofangrytown

vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
I remember when the Flyers were the biggest draw on the road, now more like road kill
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
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3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
Laughton is not without his fair share of mistakes. But at least he's young and hungry
- Just5


He shows it every shift. He seems to be " noticeable" when he is out there. I like the 10 49 17 combination
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
HATERS GONNA HATE ON GROSSMANN. I will admit I only caught the first period but I felt he was fairly solid. Everytime he struggled to get a puck out of the zone I couldn't see a forward in the screen at all. It tells me they aren't going back to support him. And ALL our defensemen need some support from the forwards for a clean exit from our zone - that's not just Grossmann...
- FlyersGrace


True, I just thought he made some bonehead plays last night. Then again, you can say that for every Dman dressed last night save for maybe Streit.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:23 AM ET
I thought Grossmann was OK last night. Not great but OK. Statistically, he had a good enough line (three credited hits, a block, three shots on goal in four attempts, not out for any GAs in 25 shifts, played 19:12 worth of ES time). Did have one bad turnover but that's not cause for a healthy scratch, in any case.
- bmeltzer


11 CF - 22 CA last night.

He now has the worst possession stats of any defensemen on the team by a significant margin despite getting to play with Streit most of the time. And Streit has the best Corsi stats of any Flyers dman.

http://www.naturalstattri...eams.php?team=PHI&sit=5v5
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 3 @ 11:23 AM ET
True, I just thought he made some bonehead plays last night. Then again, you can say that for every Dman dressed last night save for maybe Streit.
- BiggE


It's like the cop who pulls a guy over for speeding when he's just keeping up with the flow of traffic.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 3 @ 11:24 AM ET
11 CF - 22 CA last night.

He's now has the worst possession stats of any defensemen on the team by a significant margin despite getting to play with Streit most of the time. And Streit has the best Corsi stats of any Flyers dman.

http://www.naturalstattri...eams.php?team=PHI&sit=5v5

- Feanor


You had to go there. Bring on the MJL...
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:24 AM ET
Anything less than going .500 over the next 4 games and I'm going in tank mode. Sad to say.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
HATERS GONNA HATE ON GROSSMANN. I will admit I only caught the first period but I felt he was fairly solid. Everytime he struggled to get a puck out of the zone I couldn't see a forward in the screen at all. It tells me they aren't going back to support him. And ALL our defensemen need some support from the forwards for a clean exit from our zone - that's not just Grossmann...
- FlyersGrace


The thing that frustrates me with Grossman (L Schenn also) are the loose pucks at the other teams blue line. He's backing up when you see the better teams D corp have the agility to be able to take off and win the race in order to keep the puck in their zone or just be able to tie it up until our forwards are back.

He doesn't do it, but now I'm supposed to be impressed when they get the puck and rush it into our zone so he can block a shot or pin his man to the glass. No I'm not impressed with it.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
Anything less than going .500 over the next 4 games and I'm going in tank mode. Sad to say.
- hereticpride


I've been there for over a week already. Come on and feel the power of the Dark Side!
Fast_Eddie_1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Vorhees, NJ
Joined: 01.31.2012

Dec 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
You had to go there. Bring on the MJL...
- jmatchett383


Haha...

Must we though? Can we postpone his arrival until very late in the day, preferably when i'm about to leave work and I don't look at HB until the next day?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 11:26 AM ET
Holy cow that Brendan Dillon is a real nice player love that deal for SJ
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:26 AM ET
Mason's deserved a better fate in general this season
- BulliesPhan87



Mason deserves a better team.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 3 @ 11:27 AM ET
This is why I fear Chairman Ed doing something drastic and stupid.
- BiggE

The big move is going to be a new coach. Do they wait and try to lure Babcock away from Detroit and the Leafs or do they pull the trigger sooner and hire Bylsma?

With all the moves they've made this season I can't believe a significant trade is coming to improve this team. Hextall's had 6 months to make moves to make this club better and he's done nothing but the opposite. One weak trade and patches.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 3 @ 11:28 AM ET
This is why I fear Chairman Ed doing something drastic and stupid.
- BiggE


He's tried that, a couple times, so hopefully Hexy keeps Ed's hands away from the red button and preaches smart moves and patience.

Of course, patience to someone in their 80's is a hard sell.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:28 AM ET
I've been there for over a week already. Come on and feel the power of the Dark Side!
- BiggE



I am also there.. It's less stressful
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