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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 3 @ 2:53 PM ET
At this point, do we pick up Lindback from the waiver wire to see if his 6'6" frame can stop pucks better than a 6'2" or 6' guy can?
- nated81


Do you know who else is 6'6"...Dubnyk
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 3 @ 2:53 PM ET
At this point, do we pick up Lindback from the waiver wire to see if his 6'6" frame can stop pucks better than a 6'2" or 6' guy can?
- nated81

ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 3 @ 2:53 PM ET
Do you know who else is 6'6"...Dubnyk
- DDM-Coga

my thoughts as well
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 3 @ 2:53 PM ET
The rangers picks those years ended up being Sundstrom, Dan Cloutier, and JS Giguere (traded to Hatford)
- DDM-Coga

Giggy!
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Dec 3 @ 2:54 PM ET
It's obviously a subjective argument, that said, we're talking about 22 yr old kids here. And, we're talking about hindsight here. Patrice Bergeron didn't have breakout year until he was 21, just like Seguin and Johansen.

Seguin is a natural center whether he's playing the wing or not, I think it's fair to say he's a much better center than either Hall or Tarasenko could ever be.

- LeftCoaster

What I meant by the Bergeron comment is that one way a centre can be truly effective over a winger is the defensive prowess. None of these guys have particularly polished defensive games.

Thus far, Johansen and Seguin essentially play centre exactly like they would play wing: do their best in their own end, look to make plays in the offensive end. So they're not that different from Hall and Tarasenko.

The argument that a centre is more important than a wing is best exemplified by Toews over Kane. But that's because Toews is such a polished two-way player who can still bring the heat offensively.

Tie goes to the centre more often than not because the centre holds a lot of defensive responsibility in the NHL and thus centres are often groomed to have more defensive acumen. But if you look at another example of Jason Spezza vs Marian Hossa. Both comparable output, size, etc. I'm not going to take Spezza over Hossa just because he's a centre, in part because Hossa is a firmly better defensive player.

So I see the important characteristic to be two-way skill, not position. And on the subject of these four, there's only burgeoning evidence that they'll become two-way threats.
nated81
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ON
Joined: 07.09.2013

Dec 3 @ 2:55 PM ET
YES...
- saskoil21

It couldn't make things worse, right? I realize Tampa doesn't think he can stop pucks but we just lost 10 in a row, not all goaltendings fault, but a couple of saves a key times could have made for better results.
nated81
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ON
Joined: 07.09.2013

Dec 3 @ 2:57 PM ET
Do you know who else is 6'6"...Dubnyk
- DDM-Coga

And he also has better numbers than both of our goalies as well as his own teams starting goalie.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 3 @ 3:04 PM ET
Giggy!
- ChetManly


apparently its Jiggy, I know seems dumb
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 3 @ 3:05 PM ET
apparently its Jiggy, I know seems dumb
- DDM-Coga

Yeah, i figured it was spelt that way.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Dec 3 @ 3:16 PM ET
Just personally I wouldn't trade Hall/Nuge/Ebs

next season i would like to see them draft McDavid. Offer up Yak, Perron, Purcell, J Schultz, one of the d prospects and the 2016 1st rounder as trade bait..... looking to bring two defenders that can play and eat up minutes.

I really like the current 4th line so i'd keep that the same. I don't think you'd get too much for moving Ebs so i would keep him over Yak. As for the 2nd line rw spot I wonder if any ufa's would consider Edmonton????? Chris Stewart is having a bad year maybe he'd come for a reasonable price. Add some grit in the top 6. Beleskey, Nick Foligno, Thomas Kopecky, and Joel Ward would be a decent target for the 3rd line.

Pouliot/Nuge/Ebs
Hall/McJesus/???
???/Draisaitl/?Pitlick
Hendricks/Gordon/Pinizzotto/Gazdic

As for the defense I would hope for a Weber but I doubt that will happen

Phaneuf, Coburn, Jay Harrison, Johnny Boychuk, and Mark Staal would all be defenders that the oilers should target.

Goalies would have to be done via Trade.

I guess we all dream
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Dec 3 @ 3:17 PM ET
Finally (frank)ing unbanned.

Jesus refs are panzies on this site. Way to power hungry.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:19 PM ET
What I meant by the Bergeron comment is that one way a centre can be truly effective over a winger is the defensive prowess. None of these guys have particularly polished defensive games.

Thus far, Johansen and Seguin essentially play centre exactly like they would play wing: do their best in their own end, look to make plays in the offensive end. So they're not that different from Hall and Tarasenko.

The argument that a centre is more important than a wing is best exemplified by Toews over Kane. But that's because Toews is such a polished two-way player who can still bring the heat offensively.

Tie goes to the centre more often than not because the centre holds a lot of defensive responsibility in the NHL and thus centres are often groomed to have more defensive acumen. But if you look at another example of Jason Spezza vs Marian Hossa. Both comparable output, size, etc. I'm not going to take Spezza over Hossa just because he's a centre, in part because Hossa is a firmly better defensive player.

So I see the important characteristic to be two-way skill, not position. And on the subject of these four, there's only burgeoning evidence that they'll become two-way threats.

- Morris


I agree with this post! Obviously there is a lot more that goes into rating players but that is a good breakdown.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Dec 3 @ 3:20 PM ET
Finally (frank)ing unbanned.

Jesus refs are panzies on this site. Way to power hungry.

- Oilers4Life14

This post should get them off your back
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:20 PM ET
Finally (frank)ing unbanned.

Jesus refs are panzies on this site. Way to power hungry.

- Oilers4Life14


I PMd you a Churchill quote which you should take to heart. Calling a ref a pansy is a great way to get banned.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 3 @ 3:21 PM ET
Finally (frank)ing unbanned.

Jesus refs are panzies on this site. Way to power hungry.

- Oilers4Life14


did you learn you lesson
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Dec 3 @ 3:23 PM ET
And he also has better numbers than both of our goalies as well as his own teams starting goalie.
- nated81



agree... cant be any worse...
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:24 PM ET
agree... cant be any worse...
- saskoil21


What if he is? How do we get rid of him?
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Dec 3 @ 3:32 PM ET
What if he is? How do we get rid of him?
- Dangles13

Guy is on a one yr 925k deal. They could send him to OKC and only retain a 25000 cap hit. Seems like a legit risk
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Dec 3 @ 3:33 PM ET
Do you know who else is 6'6"...Dubnyk
- DDM-Coga

Was just going to point this out
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Dec 3 @ 3:34 PM ET
did you learn you lesson
- DDM-Coga


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The way I see it, petry is gone at the deadline for at most a mid round pick. So it's basically eberle, Klefbom, a first and a third/fourth. It's understandable that no one wants to move that 1st. Maybe a first in 2016?
- Zinner21



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HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Dec 3 @ 3:35 PM ET
Finally (frank)ing unbanned.

Jesus refs are panzies on this site. Way to power hungry.

- Oilers4Life14

andddddd your banned.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
Finally (frank)ing unbanned.

Jesus refs are panzies on this site. Way to power hungry.

- Oilers4Life14

Maybe if you would shut up and stop dissing the refs you wouldn't be banned
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
Guy is on a one yr 925k deal. They could send him to OKC and only retain a 25000 cap hit. Seems like a legit risk
- Bieksa#3

hahahhhaha 5x post!
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
andddddd your banned.
- HouseArrest187

if only
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Dec 3 @ 3:42 PM ET
hahahhhaha 5x post!
- ChetManly

Guess my internet wanted to get the point across
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