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ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:51 AM ET
I don't have a problem with that. Those guys wear letters on this team and if they are not doing their best to lead this team then they don't deserve those As.
- Dangles13

Agreed.
Frank.Grimes
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall's been pretty much nothing but potential so far, then I saw his numbers from last year-GOODPLAY, AB
Joined: 12.02.2014

Dec 5 @ 11:51 AM ET
Hall isn't Messier, but he does need to do more in other areas. Jultz is muffcabbage, Eberle is injured. Jultz should not be apart of the core. Eberle needs to get healthier. But, yes, both of those guys need to be doing a bigger impact.
- ChetManly

This to me just screams that we don't need to hold our best players accountable. Just the secondary guys need to be held accountable even though there the ones busting there a$$es night in and night out while they watch Schultz and hall give up brutal turnover over and over. Hall is a selfish player and should be nowhere near a leadership role or expected to hold anyone else accountable. And Schultz should be sitting in the press box until he actually gives a sh!t about playing the game of hockey.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 5 @ 11:52 AM ET
And I'm all for making the right changes. I'm not saying anyone should be protected. I'd trade anyone for the right price. But the deals being talked about are ridiculous.
- Iggysbff

Nobody should be safe on this team. Nobody.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Dec 5 @ 11:52 AM ET
And I'm all for making the right changes. I'm not saying anyone should be protected. I'd trade anyone for the right price. But the deals being talked about are ridiculous.
- Iggysbff

This. I agree, we gotta wait for the right deal. But we need to start making the correct personnel decisions with the personnel we have. Like Marincin playing, no more Nitikin, Pitlick staying in the lineup if he continues to play like he is.
Frank.Grimes
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall's been pretty much nothing but potential so far, then I saw his numbers from last year-GOODPLAY, AB
Joined: 12.02.2014

Dec 5 @ 11:53 AM ET
This. I agree, we gotta wait for the right deal. But we need to start making the correct personnel decisions with the personnel we have. Like Marincin playing, no more Nitikin, Pitlick staying in the lineup if he continues to play like he is.
- Oilfan19

But didn't u hear MacT say nikitin was noticeably missed against the Jets. We missed his play making ability.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Dec 5 @ 11:54 AM ET
Boychuk, Leddy?
- Oilfan19

Lol. Those deals were done after we had signed Nikitin and Fayne. They were not available for those prices back when Mact tried.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Dec 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
But didn't u hear MacT say nikitin was noticeably missed against the Jets. We missed his play making ability.
- Frank.Grimes

And thats what blows my mind. They need to throw there ego aside, when you (frank) up own it. He (frank)ed up with Niki. OWN IT. We played arguably our best period of the year when Niki was out.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
No but we need actual NHL centres. I would guess that a couple mid round picks, say a 3rd and a 4th gets you a guy like Kyle Brodziak which would've helped this team.
- ystoil

For a 4th and a 5th. Always hated that move.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
This. I agree, we gotta wait for the right deal. But we need to start making the correct personnel decisions with the personnel we have. Like Marincin playing, no more Nitikin, Pitlick staying in the lineup if he continues to play like he is.
- Oilfan19


I would rather Marincin in the AHL, keep him away from this garbage and learn to play at a high level. I'd say bye to Draisaitl and Klefbom as well.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
This to me just screams that we don't need to hold our best players accountable. Just the secondary guys need to be held accountable even though there the ones busting there a$$es night in and night out while they watch Schultz and hall give up brutal turnover over and over. Hall is a selfish player and should be nowhere near a leadership role or expected to hold anyone else accountable. And Schultz should be sitting in the press box until he actually gives a sh!t about playing the game of hockey.
- Frank.Grimes

Yes and no. How much more do people expect Hall to be doing everything for everyone? It's a team game and this team isn't producing. Yes Hall needs to be more of a leader. Yes Eberle needs to backcheck more and also finish his shots. Yes, Jultz needs to be sitting in the presser until he realizes that his NCAA skills aren't working in the NHL.

But do we seriously pin all the teams problems and results onto those three guys only?

How much influence is Purcell doing? Yakupov is still receiving limited ice time. Gazdic was given his roster spot. Perron is getting frustrated. Let him go out there for key moments rather than letting the guys that aren't producing be on the ice.

Nikitin should've be receiving so much ice time. Why isn't Fayne and Petry being leaned on more? They are more capable than a combination of Aulie-Niktin-Ference-Jultz.

(frank) our team sucks.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Dec 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
Lol. Those deals were done after we had signed Nikitin and Fayne. They were not available for those prices back when Mact tried.
- Iggysbff

I'm just throwing out examples of guys that can be had for mid picks. Brodziak was mentioned which would at least let us send LD down
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:56 AM ET
Nobody should be safe on this team. Nobody.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Even the Octane?
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Dec 5 @ 11:57 AM ET

Im not liking EK`s new rumor about the OIL
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:57 AM ET
For a 4th and a 5th. Always hated that move.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Never made sense to me.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 5 @ 11:57 AM ET
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Dec 5 @ 11:58 AM ET
Im not liking EK`s new rumor about the OIL
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Why do we need another D prospect?
Frank.Grimes
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall's been pretty much nothing but potential so far, then I saw his numbers from last year-GOODPLAY, AB
Joined: 12.02.2014

Dec 5 @ 11:58 AM ET
This organization is a joke any other owner in the league would've brought in an experienced GM by now for the sole purpose of moving players out to make a culture change. Or as I call it pulling a Burke.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:58 AM ET
Im not liking EK`s new rumor about the OIL
- Byfuglien Ate Me

holy (frank) that's a steaming pile of poop. Why in the sweet hell would Edmonton bring in a defensive prospect that isn't trending to be a top pairing dman?

We need a immediate top 2 dman, not a "potential" one when we already have 3 solid d prospects.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:59 AM ET

- Dangles13

Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Dec 5 @ 11:59 AM ET
No but we need actual NHL centres. I would guess that a couple mid round picks, say a 3rd and a 4th gets you a guy like Kyle Brodziak which would've helped this team.
- ystoil

You'd guess? That's what's wrong here folks. You think you know what's available and what's been discussed or offered.

Stuaffer has said Mact has been looking for a center since the draft. You think he doesn't know exactly who is available and what the price is?
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:59 AM ET
This organization is a joke any other owner in the league would've brought in an experienced GM by now for the sole purpose of moving players out to make a culture change. Or as I call it pulling a Burke.
- Frank.Grimes

As long as we don't pull a Feaster.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Dec 5 @ 11:59 AM ET
Why do we need another D prospect?
- Oilfan19


Exactly
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Dec 5 @ 12:00 PM ET
Exactly
- Byfuglien Ate Me

I see what you did there
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Dec 5 @ 12:02 PM ET
I was getting my daughter dressed and realized she had on blue pants with orange socks, I almost puked.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 5 @ 12:02 PM ET
The continued protection of Lowe baffles me. We constantly hear about "accountability" yet the one constant from 2006 to now, Kevin Lowe, continues his mystifying run. Would it make the team better? No, but it would sure as hell lend some action the usual words we hear. In any other business organization, any President with such am abysmal track record would have been turfed and blackballed long ago. At this point, he's pretty solidly entrenched in the losing culture that Edmonton has. Want the fans to stop being angry? Then show us that when you say "accountability" that it has more substance than a mustard fart.
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