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GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 5 @ 10:20 AM ET
Would you trade Stamkos for something like Shea Weber, Filip Forsberg, and a 2016 first rounder?How about for PK Subban, Alex Galchenyuk, and a 2015 1st rounder?
- jmatchett383

YES
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 5 @ 10:21 AM ET
2015 first rounder for OEL.
- jmatchett383


I would do it. Not sure the Yotes would.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
They aren't getting McDavid, or Eichel. That being said, this years first round pick is probably their most valuable trade chip.
- PLindbergh31


They won't. As many problems as they have, this isn't a bottom 5 feeder team right now providing G And jake stay healthy. If One of them goes down for awhile all bets are off
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
Flyers are due for some good luck.....
- GOA88


Scary thing is, they haven't really been that unlucky. Not that many posts, or bad deflections, or fluky bounces... they've just been really consistently bad.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 5 @ 10:23 AM ET
2015 first rounder for OEL.
- jmatchett383



As long as it isn't the 1-2 overall pick
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 5 @ 10:24 AM ET
Scary thing is, they haven't really been that unlucky. Not that many posts, or bad deflections, or fluky bounces... they've just been really consistently bad.
- Tomahawk

What I meant was they are due because we got screwed by having to pick JVR instead of Kane.... We know how that turned out.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 5 @ 10:24 AM ET
Would you trade Stamkos for something like Shea Weber, Filip Forsberg, and a 2016 first rounder?
How about for PK Subban, Alex Galchenyuk, and a 2015 1st rounder?

- jmatchett383



Yes, and yes.

But do you really think the Flyers get that kind of deal?


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
They won't. As many problems as they have, this isn't a bottom 5 feeder team right now providing G And jake stay healthy. If One of them goes down for awhile all bets are off
- Just5


I don't think picking in the # 4 range is that far of a stretch.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
They won't. As many problems as they have, this isn't a bottom 5 feeder team right now providing G And jake stay healthy. If One of them goes down for awhile all bets are off
- Just5

Hopefully Giroux gets put on LTIR so we can make that happen.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 5 @ 10:26 AM ET
What I meant was they are due because we got screwed by having to pick JVR instead of Kane.... We know how that turned out.
- GOA88


Yeah, that was poopty.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 5 @ 10:27 AM ET
Scary thing is, they haven't really been that unlucky. Not that many posts, or bad deflections, or fluky bounces... they've just been really consistently bad.
- Tomahawk


They've had some injuries on the backend, but being they all take turns being healthy scratches does it really matter? What a mess.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 5 @ 10:27 AM ET
Yeah, that was poopty.
- Tomahawk

(frank)ing horrible. It basically cost us a cup or two.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:27 AM ET
I wouldn't this time. MacDavid is supposed to be a cant miss like Crosby or Stamkos. You cant pass up something like that.
- MBFlyerfan



If you can get the right deal for him, I think you can. The top teams have the core of a few top forwards, and top puck moving two way defenseman to build on year after year. If the Flyers can get one of those defenseman, plus other top assets for the player, I'd do it. That's how important that defenseman is. It would have to be a deal that is so good, you can't turn it down.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
(frank)ing horrible. It basically cost us a cup or two.
- GOA88


In an alternate universe, they lose patience w Pat Kane's off-ice behavior, and trade him to Chicago for future franchise-dman Cam Barker.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 5 @ 10:29 AM ET
In an alternate universe, they lose patience w Pat Kane's off-ice behavior, and trade him to Chicago for future franchise-dman Cam Barker.
- Tomahawk

Could you imagine Giroux and Kane on the same line?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:30 AM ET
Scary thing is, they haven't really been that unlucky. Not that many posts, or bad deflections, or fluky bounces... they've just been really consistently bad.
- Tomahawk



Over the course of this season, the Flyers have a ridiculous amount of defelctions into their net for goals. While it seems every time the Flyers deflect a puck, I hear Jackson say "deflected just wide". So they have had a lot of bad luck in that area. However, I think a lot of times, you make your own luck.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 5 @ 10:31 AM ET
You know one player I like from Arizona that I think would look nice here. Mikkel Boedker. I think he would nice as a 2nd line winger. I know it isn't this sexy type player but i think his game would be nice on this team.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 5 @ 10:31 AM ET
What I meant was they are due because we got screwed by having to pick JVR instead of Kane.... We know how that turned out.
- GOA88


Yeah our GM made a bonehead trade
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 5 @ 10:33 AM ET
A Tampa fan was so mad with Carle's play this season they offered him for $1 on craigslist.

https://tampa.craigslist....g/hil/spo/4771190103.html

Barely used NHL defenseman - $1 (Tampa)

Up for grabs we have NHL defenseman Matt Carle. He's played with several NHL teams that don't want him anymore so here is your chance to get in on the disappointment the Lightning, Sharks and Flyers endured. It is not necessary that he play hockey, he's great at cooking pancakes as he has lots of experience turning things over. Also makes a good lawn ornament as he enjoys standing around doing nothing. Made in America.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:34 AM ET
A Tampa fan was so mad with Carle's play this season they offered him for $1 on craigslist.

https://tampa.craigslist....g/hil/spo/4771190103.html

Barely used NHL defenseman - $1 (Tampa)

Up for grabs we have NHL defenseman Matt Carle. He's played with several NHL teams that don't want him anymore so here is your chance to get in on the disappointment the Lightning, Sharks and Flyers endured. It is not necessary that he play hockey, he's great at cooking pancakes as he has lots of experience turning things over. Also makes a good lawn ornament as he enjoys standing around doing nothing. Made in America.

- Feanor


Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 5 @ 10:35 AM ET
You know one player I like from Arizona that I think would look nice here. Mikkel Boedker. I think he would nice as a 2nd line winger. I know it isn't this sexy type player but i think his game would be nice on this team.
- J35Bacher


I might trade Read for him. I think Berube chaining Coots and Read together all the time is not working anymore.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 5 @ 10:35 AM ET
A Tampa fan was so mad with Carle's play this season they offered him for $1 on craigslist.

https://tampa.craigslist....g/hil/spo/4771190103.html

Barely used NHL defenseman - $1 (Tampa)

Up for grabs we have NHL defenseman Matt Carle. He's played with several NHL teams that don't want him anymore so here is your chance to get in on the disappointment the Lightning, Sharks and Flyers endured. It is not necessary that he play hockey, he's great at cooking pancakes as he has lots of experience turning things over. Also makes a good lawn ornament as he enjoys standing around doing nothing. Made in America.

- Feanor


J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 5 @ 10:37 AM ET
If you can get the right deal for him, I think you can. The top teams have the core of a few top forwards, and top puck moving two way defenseman to build on year after year. If the Flyers can get one of those defenseman, plus other top assets for the player, I'd do it. That's how important that defenseman is. It would have to be a deal that is so good, you can't turn it down.
- MJL




I wouldn't mess around this year IF you did get one of the top two picks. I mean there was all this hype to get Seth Jones yet the Avalanche still went with pure talent in McKinnon.

If that number one defender is so important then why would they offer them up. You might get the number 2 guy but would they rob peter to pay paul?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:39 AM ET
I wouldn't mess around this year IF you did get one of the top two picks. I mean there was all this hype to get Seth Jones yet the Avalanche still went with pure talent in McKinnon.

If that number one defender is so important then why would they offer them up. You might get the number 2 guy but would they rob peter to pay paul?

- J35Bacher



I made that point several times. I don't think the player the Flyers would need in return would be made available.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 5 @ 10:45 AM ET
I made that point several times. I don't think the player the Flyers would need in return would be made available.
- MJL



And I know eeryone keeps saying IF you got McDavir Eichel you trade Couturier in a package to get Weber but is he realy the guy anymore or are getting another Pronger type situation. Player getting older, have to give up ton to get him what is his expiration date.
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