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chriscmc
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.02.2014

Dec 5 @ 8:35 PM ET
If his own team doesn't see him as a top line forward when they don't have a ton of top tier talent then I'm not really interested. With his attitude, no thanks.
- Isles_since_6


His attitude issues are blown out of proportion by the media. Ho sang and kane are very similar
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 5 @ 8:35 PM ET
Bc of a lousy team and no players to play with, am I correct on that? He's the focal point from any opposing team bc he could change the game w/his speed & skill. If Kane played on a better team, his production will be much better.
- Ur Not Me


Kane doesn't use his line-mates enough probably because they are poop. He usually gets second pairing defense though because the Ladd line is so good at cycling the puck. Kane is just not mature enough as a player yet but he's still a game breaker who will only get better.

In Winnipeg all I ever hear is ripping of Evander. "He shoots too much and doesn't look to pass, plus he misses the net a lot. He also goes out of his way to play a physical game instead of focusing on offense." Stupid reasons to hate a player in my opinion, especially because most people love Byfuglien for the same reason.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 5 @ 8:37 PM ET
If his own team doesn't see him as a top line forward when they don't have a ton of top tier talent then I'm not really interested. With his attitude, no thanks.
- Isles_since_6


He's young and rich and likes to have fun, I've never heard of any player not liking him. He doesn't get to play top line because Ladd is the Captain, Kane still gets loads of minutes but its with scrubs.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 5 @ 8:38 PM ET
Kane doesn't use his line-mates enough probably because they are poop. He usually gets second pairing defense though because the Ladd line is so good at cycling the puck. Kane is just not mature enough as a player yet but he's still a game breaker who will only get better.

In Winnipeg all I ever hear is ripping of Evander. "He shoots too much and doesn't look to pass, plus he misses the net a lot. He also goes out of his way to play a physical game instead of focusing on offense." Stupid reasons to hate a player in my opinion, especially because most people love Byfuglien for the same reason.

- Dangles13


Just asking but since when has Ladd been on the 1st line? Or is it this year only?
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 5 @ 8:39 PM ET
If his own team doesn't see him as a top line forward when they don't have a ton of top tier talent then I'm not really interested. With his attitude, no thanks.
- Isles_since_6


The Jets are lousy so I really cant consider what line he plays, just my take.....
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 5 @ 8:42 PM ET
Just asking but since when has Ladd been on the 1st line? Or is it this year only?
- Ur Not Me


Him, Little and Wheeler have been for the past few years. Wheeler leads the Jets in points usually.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 5 @ 8:45 PM ET
Him, Little and Wheeler have been for the past few years. Wheeler leads the Jets in points usually.
- Dangles13



Thanks, I know usually Wheeler leads team in pts but just almost proves my point about Kane, in a way.....
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 5 @ 8:48 PM ET
Thanks, I know usually Wheeler leads team in pts but just almost proves my point about Kane, in a way.....
- Ur Not Me


I'm sure Okposo and Kane are close. I don't get to see Okposo as much as I'd like, I would just like Kane to mature and learn to use his line more. Like I said Winnipeg fans are frustrated with him for whatever reason so maybe you could get him.
goirish
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.08.2010

Dec 5 @ 8:52 PM ET
I'd rather have Okposo IMO. He's cheaper and no attitude problem.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:06 PM ET
I'd rather have Okposo IMO. He's cheaper and no attitude problem.
- goirish

So would just about every islander fan
chriscmc
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.02.2014

Dec 5 @ 9:09 PM ET
So would just about every islander fan
- Vukota


I'd take both of them
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:10 PM ET
I'm a die hard fan but sorry not a fan of his, personally I think he's overrated by most and in 6yrs had 1 consistent season and others think he's turned the corner but hasn't been displaying the same type of play of last year, shat, he actually looks better on Fran's line which is considered the 2nd or 3rd line.... I don't like his game and NEVER will......

Here's a shocker, hope Snow trade's him.....

- Ur Not Me


Yeah he only leads the team in assists and is 1 point behind Nelson for the team lead in points Hurry up trade him
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 5 @ 9:25 PM ET
Yeah he only leads the team in assists and is 1 point behind Nelson for the team lead in points Hurry up trade him
- Vukota


We have some draft picks just sitting around if you're interested.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 5 @ 9:30 PM ET
Yeah he only leads the team in assists and is 1 point behind Nelson for the team lead in points Hurry up trade him
- Vukota



For another very good player, in a second !!!!
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:37 PM ET
For another very good player, in a second !!!!
- Ur Not Me

So trading a good player for another good player helps them how especially if they are both forwards?
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 5 @ 9:44 PM ET
So trading a good player for another good player helps them how especially if they are both forwards?
- Vukota



Depending on who the other player is, even though I'm not a fan of his, I won't trade him for trade sake. But if I'm upgrading the W for JT I'm looking at all options. U can be all giddy about his play, but it shows there's a lack of consistency with him for many years besides last.

Dude we tend to differ on KO, no big deal.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:07 PM ET
Depending on who the other player is, even though I'm not a fan of his, I won't trade him for trade sake. But if I'm upgrading the W for JT I'm looking at all options. U can be all giddy about his play, but it shows there's a lack of consistency with him for many years besides last.

Dude we tend to differ on KO, no big deal.

- Ur Not Me

Of course its no big deal. He was great last year and he is basically on the same pace this year. Sure he was inconsistent a couple of years ago but everybody develops at a different pace. He is just entering his prime and is a completely different player now. Plus he has great chemistry with JT. Like him damn it!
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:10 PM ET
For another very good player, in a second !!!!
- Ur Not Me


Hurry up and trade for Evander. The Jets are hammering the Avalanche 5-1 and Kane has 0 points.
islander4cups
New York Islanders
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 5 @ 10:10 PM ET
Martin especially, cal is more responsible about it takes less dumb penalties.
- chriscmc


Wrong. Cal isn't more responsible. He got off to a very slow start this year. He didn't start playing well until they left Arizona. Cal won't fight. Martin will. Cal is an "agitator" trying to get other teams to take penalties, but there have been times he should have dropped the gloves to protect a teammate and didn't.

Martin has been a far more consistent player this season than Cal. Where Cal has improved is he's been very good on the pk when we've used him there.

The two of them have helped give us one of the best 4th lines in the league. They just wear down opponents. Look at last night's game v. Ottawa. Martin throws a hit in the offensive zone...actually misses the hit...but the defender blindly throws the puck low into his own end and Cizikas picks it off leading to a goal and the win. Our 4th line has been excellent.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:14 PM ET
Wrong. Cal isn't more responsible. He got off to a very slow start this year. He didn't start playing well until they left Arizona. Cal won't fight. Martin will. Cal is an "agitator" trying to get other teams to take penalties, but there have been times he should have dropped the gloves to protect a teammate and didn't.

Martin has been a far more consistent player this season than Cal. Where Cal has improved is he's been very good on the pk when we've used him there.

The two of them have helped give us one of the best 4th lines in the league. They just wear down opponents. Look at last night's game v. Ottawa. Martin throws a hit in the offensive zone...actually misses the hit...but the defender blindly throws the puck low into his own end and Cizikas picks it off leading to a goal and the win. Our 4th line has been excellent.

- islander4cups


I love that 4th line of yours. Cizikas is one of my favourite heart and soul players, fell in love with him here.

islander4cups
New York Islanders
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 5 @ 10:19 PM ET
Simply put, who's KO played with in comparison to Kane? It took KO 6yrs to have 1 legitimate season, Kane plays with who again??? Kane has produced being on a lousy Winnipeg team which he is the focal point from the opposition. I could keep going but I'll stop .....
- Ur Not Me


Good because you are kinda being nuts. While I love Kane and would love to see a move to get him, you seem to forget that KO was progressing well and should have been on the last two Olympic teams. He was clearly a better choice than Callahan in '08 but USA choose Cally so he and Drury could PK together like they did for the Rags. But at that point Okposo was better. Then he lost more than an entire season to the shoulder injury. Both he and Streit had the same injury. Neither player was fully recovered for a season and half.

If you think KO's play has not been what it was last season, then you are watching Rangers or Devils games, not Islanders games. For the past 2 full seasons, KO has found what its been to be a pro and has been excellent.

I think the criticism of Kane is overblown. He doesn't fit the "modest, say nothing, don't draw attention to yourself" stereotype that Canadians want their players to show.

I think if you drop Kane on that line with KO and JT- JT and Kane net 40, KO will net 30-35 and probably have more assists than both JT and Kane. It would be the best line in the east and probably the best line in the nhl.

JMHO
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:28 PM ET
Wrong. Cal isn't more responsible. He got off to a very slow start this year. He didn't start playing well until they left Arizona. Cal won't fight. Martin will. Cal is an "agitator" trying to get other teams to take penalties, but there have been times he should have dropped the gloves to protect a teammate and didn't.

Martin has been a far more consistent player this season than Cal. Where Cal has improved is he's been very good on the pk when we've used him there.

The two of them have helped give us one of the best 4th lines in the league. They just wear down opponents. Look at last night's game v. Ottawa. Martin throws a hit in the offensive zone...actually misses the hit...but the defender blindly throws the puck low into his own end and Cizikas picks it off leading to a goal and the win. Our 4th line has been excellent.

- islander4cups


Actually I would agree with him. Martin was terrible for the first 12 games if not more. He was on the verge of being scratched IMO. Clutterbuck wasn't great either but he is the all around better player out of the two
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Dec 5 @ 10:47 PM ET
Good because you are kinda being nuts. While I love Kane and would love to see a move to get him, you seem to forget that KO was progressing well and should have been on the last two Olympic teams. He was clearly a better choice than Callahan in '08 but USA choose Cally so he and Drury could PK together like they did for the Rags. But at that point Okposo was better. Then he lost more than an entire season to the shoulder injury. Both he and Streit had the same injury. Neither player was fully recovered for a season and half.

If you think KO's play has not been what it was last season, then you are watching Rangers or Devils games, not Islanders games. For the past 2 full seasons, KO has found what its been to be a pro and has been excellent.

I think the criticism of Kane is overblown. He doesn't fit the "modest, say nothing, don't draw attention to yourself" stereotype that Canadians want their players to show.

I think if you drop Kane on that line with KO and JT- JT and Kane net 40, KO will net 30-35 and probably have more assists than both JT and Kane. It would be the best line in the east and probably the best line in the nhl.

JMHO

- islander4cups


lol typical islander fan, with such unrealistic expectations. do you know how rare it is to have multiple 40+ goal scorers on the same line? even crosby couldn't get kunitz to 40, it's just not realistic since goals are only accredited to one person. you think JT + kane + okposo will get 110-115 goals combined? LOL thanks for the laugh
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:49 PM ET
lol typical islander fan, with such unrealistic expectations. do you know how rare it is to have multiple 40+ goal scorers on the same line? even crosby couldn't get kunitz to 40, it's just not realistic since goals are only accredited to one person. you think JT + kane + okposo will get 110-115 goals combined? LOL thanks for the laugh
- sensnucksnocups


It's not out of the realm of possibilities, if you put 3 good players on a line then they should produce. Crosby with a couple of good 2nd line wingers aren't going to get 40 goals.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Dec 5 @ 11:05 PM ET
lol typical islander fan, with such unrealistic expectations. do you know how rare it is to have multiple 40+ goal scorers on the same line? even crosby couldn't get kunitz to 40, it's just not realistic since goals are only accredited to one person. you think JT + kane + okposo will get 110-115 goals combined? LOL thanks for the laugh
- sensnucksnocups


2005-06 - Heatley/Alfredsson
2006-07 - Lecavalier*/St. Louis + Kovalchuk/Hossa
2007-08 - Heatley/Alfredsson
2009-10 - Ovechkin/Semin
2011-12 - Malkin/Neal
*Fixed
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