The Umberger/Hartnell comparison is nice and all, but if the loss of Hartnell made the rest of the team play soft, then there are more issues at play here.

In the Lindros era, the first hit of the game set the tempo. When Eric (or whoever) threw the first big check, the crowd got into it and the team followed suit. Today, if Rinaldo throws a big check and it's not followed by a penalty, the team considers itself lucky and continues on its timid way to not causing a continuous parade to the penalty box.

Who throws a clean, hard check these days to start a game? Luke might eventually get one, but doesn't set out to set the pace at the beginning of the game. As the saying goes, this isn't your father's Flyers team.
- tangent_man

That'll be Laughton, eventually. And that's it. For now.

It's relevant late in the game when the other team has been able to rotate four good lines and our three are gassed.
- hereticpride

Last game the 4th line saw about 8 minutes at ES, which is only a couple of minutes less then what the 4th line players such as Clifford of LA average at ES.

My head is going to explode

Just made the mistake of stopping on WIP when I heard them mention Hextall. Glen Macnow would like you all to know that this team is now lumped in with the Sixers and Phillies with, and I quote, no end in sight. He paused and then went onto his thank god for the Eagles, our Philadelphia saviors and the usual WIP cro mag call to arms.

Just made the mistake of stopping on WIP when I heard them mention Hextall. Glen Macnow would like you all to know that this team is now lumped in with the Sixers and Phillies with, and I quote, no end in sight. He paused and then went onto his thank god for the Eagles, our Philadelphia saviors and the usual WIP cro mag call to arms.


- hereticpride

macnow is a moron

Just made the mistake of stopping on WIP when I heard them mention Hextall. Glen Macnow would like you all to know that this team is now lumped in with the Sixers and Phillies with, and I quote, no end in sight. He paused and then went onto his thank god for the Eagles, our Philadelphia saviors and the usual WIP cro mag call to arms.


- hereticpride

Talk Radio: worst kind of poop there is.

My head is going to explode
- flyer_nutter

Hung over a bit?

macnow is a moron
- Crimsoninja

My head is going to explode
- flyer_nutter

How about a nice greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray?

Hung over a bit?
- wolfhounds

I was, but I have remedies

I was, but I have remedies


- BiggE

Yeah, beautiful weather, beautiful beaches, beautiful women...and the hair of the dog.

I thought you were banned until you got back up to the dreary northeast?

Away with you, paradise man!

Hung over a bit?
- wolfhounds

Uhhhhhh....

Yeah, beautiful weather, beautiful beaches, beautiful women...and the hair of the dog.

I thought you were banned until you got back up to the dreary northeast?

Away with you, paradise man!
- wolfhounds

i think mason being average in anaheim is rubbish.

i think mason being average in anaheim is rubbish.
- hammarby31

Agreed, there was one he'd probably like back, but he made some huge saves in the 2nd and in the 3rd.

Agreed, there was one he'd probably like back, but he made some huge saves in the 2nd and in the 3rd.
- BiggE

which one is that? goal 3 - the wraparound or goal 4 on the pp?

alright is toffoli going to break his scoring slump against us?

Just made the mistake of stopping on WIP when I heard them mention Hextall. Glen Macnow would like you all to know that this team is now lumped in with the Sixers and Phillies with, and I quote, no end in sight. He paused and then went onto his thank god for the Eagles, our Philadelphia saviors and the usual WIP cro mag call to arms.


- hereticpride

dark time in Phily? no?

alright is toffoli going to break his scoring slump against us?
- 2Real

Yes

i think mason being average in anaheim is rubbish.
- hammarby31

I guess that all depends on what defines average. I think the Getzlaff goal, and the Vatanen goal are stops he's normally makes.

I guess that all depends on what defines average. I think the Getzlaff goal, and the Vatanen goal are stops he's normally makes.
- MJL

Getzlaf goal? The one where he came in on a clean 3 on 1?

Obviously having Timonen this season would've helped, but how much a real difference would he have made? The truth of the matter is the contract was a bad contract. Bonus money that was probably easily obtainable, just to save this year. Imagine if he had played all year, and the Flyers would've had to carry 1.5M bonus overage on the cap next year. In addition to any possibly buyout dead money they'd have to carry. Timonen's contract wasn't a very good contract at all.

I trust and believe in Hextall. But I laugh when I read AKA the kind of poop Holmgren would do. He wasn't a perfect GM, and made some mistakes like any GM has. But he also did a ton of good. Of course that's just swept away as if it didn't exist. Hextall has been the GM for a very short time, but saying he's already better then Holmgren is laughable. Until Hextall takes a team that was a loser and builds them into a cup finalist, he's not better then Holmgren. Holmgren put a strong core in place for Hextall to work with. The reality is to this point, Hextall hasn't accomplished anything, but he has to be given a chance.
- MJL

Agreed. I think when comparing what Couturier already does and what Laughton MIGHT be able to do in a small sample size is also laughable. We don't know what the limitations of Scott Laughton are yet and won't know until he reaches full stride but we do know what Sean Couturier can do. There is nothing wrong with being excited about Hextall or Laughton but try not to make the mistake of believing one is better then the other in such a short time.

Getzlaf goal? The one where he came in on a clean 3 on 1?
- Just5

Yes, that one. It was a real good shot, and I don't think it's a bad goal by any means. But I think Mason will make that save on a lot of occasions when he's at his best. Not blaming him for it, as the play in front of him on that sequence was horrendous.

Yes, that one. It was a real good shot, and I don't think it's a bad goal by any means. But I think Mason will make that save on a lot of occasions when he's at his best. Not blaming him for it, as the play in front of him on that sequence was horrendous.
- MJL

I'll defer to hammarby but damn I didnt think he had much of a chance

I'll defer to hammarby but damn I didnt think he had much of a chance
- Just5

It's a very tough save, but he's got a great glove hand.